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The Palin Trump Card: TURNOUT
Wizbang ^
| September 5, 2008
| DJ Drummond
Posted on 09/05/2008 10:48:58 AM PDT by Delacon
Howard Dean almost made history in 2004. While John Kerry just plain fumbled the opportunity handed to him, Dean's fund-raising and grassroots registration and turnout drives were spectacularly successful. Over 58 million Americans voted for Kerry-Edwards in the presidential election, an amazing success for the campaign's workers and planners. President Bush, however, claimed over 62 million votes, on the strength of a similarly epic turnout effort. The 2004 election turned on many points of decision, but in effective terms both parties knew they had to maximize their turnout.
Fast forward to today. Rasmussen Reports (whom I distrust to some degree, because they do not reveal all of their methodology and weighting rationale to the media, bloggers, or academics) released a poll showing Barack Obama leading John McCain by 2 points, 48% to 46%. The race is statistically tied, says Rasmussen. Looking more closely, however, I noticed how Rasmussen has weighted the respondent pool, with 39.7% weighted as Democrats, 32.1% as Republicans, and 28.2% as unaffiliated.
The significance of this weighting is that, as I have warned before, it is not based on any established statistical record or census report. Instead, Rasmussen does what it calls "dynamic weighting". What they do, by their own admission, is to establish "baseline targets" for party affiliation by reviewing "survey interviews with a sample of adults nationwide completed during the preceding three months". When translated into English, Rasmussen is admitting that they use the results from previous polls to weight their new polls, even though this is - by definition - circular logic and is invalid for any poll which is authentically using pure RDD methodology in its respondent contact procedure (that is, a pure random method of contacting people means that you have near-absolute certainty that you are not calling anyone from prior polls, and therefore there is no connection between your present and former respondent pool except that they meet the defined criteria, and therefore conditions of the former do not influence the conditions of the present). Rasmussen has no effective basis for claiming the party affiliation in its polls, as a result of its invalid system. This happens a lot with polling groups, but it is a critical factor in the results they report, and as such I must warn the readers regularly about this practice. While no proven scientific method exists to track and report party affiliation between elections, the reader should at least expect a consistent ratio to be used, and for polling groups to obtain the basis of party weighting using outside and objective sources for their party identification data.
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So anyway, using Rasmussen's made-up affiliation numbers, we see that if Rasmussen's poll is correct and if 39.7% of the voters are really Democrats, 32.1% of the voters are really Republicans, and 28.2% are really unaffiliated, then Obama-Biden has the support of 46 to 50 percent of the people responding to the poll, while McCain-Palin has the support of 44 to 48 percent of the people responding. But suppose that more than 39.7% of the voters are Democrats? What if more than 32.1% of the voters are Republicans? From my experience, I can say that self-identified Democrats and Republicans are much more likely to vote than people without a party affiliation. And what if some factor or issue makes some voters of a certain party affiliation stay home? That's happened before you know, it hurt Bush I in 1992 and Humphrey in 1968, and there's more than a few groups which have said earlier that they would sit at home this fall. Not too many people have talked about it recently, and the ones who did seemed to assume they were not problems anymore, but McCain had to worry about hard-line conservatives, while Obama had to worry about Hillary's army. McCain needed to assure folks that his age and health were not reasons to doubt his ability, while Obama needed to assure folks that he had the judgment to make good executive decisions, even if his record up to now was empty. McCain needed to show Republicans he stood for the party's ideals, and to show independents we was a different man from George Bush. Obama needed to show Democrats he was a man able to accomplish their goals, while proving to the nation his claim to be able to reach across the aisle. There are a lot of folks with reasons to walk away from the election, and to doubt the claims of the nominees from either party. Victory may well come down to which party best retains its existing active support, and beings back its doubters.
That brings us to Sarah Palin. John McCain picked Palin to be his running mate after Barack Obama chose Joe Biden to be his VP nominee. Biden was essentially the "safe" pick, meant to shore up Obama's clear deficiencies in foreign policy and resume depth. Hillary Clinton was an obvious choice for VP, but the Obama campaign clearly worried about whether Clinton would remain an ally after November, and the campaign could be embarassed if Clinton had publicly declined the post, as some rumored she would do. And because the Obama campaign depended so heavily on Barack Obama's personal charisma, there was no effective way the VP pick could expect to retrieve those voters that were not already attracted to Obama.
Things were much different for McCain. The threat of mainline Republicans staying home was a serious problem; even the likelihood that they would vote for him but withhold campaign support for registration and GOTV drives could seriously damage McCain in key battleground states. McCain therefore needed a running mate who would strongly appeal to the conservatives, yet not alienate the other key GOP candidates from the primaries. McCain needed someone with the skills to step into the role of President if it became necessary, ideally someone familiar with the executive roles and with energy experience. Also, McCain was clearly chasing Obama in overall support, and needed a VP pick who would energize his supporters and create media interest in his campaign. In terms of strategy, McCain wanted a running mate who would increase the level of turnout his campaign could expect in November, who would be able to retain and protect gains he had made in recent months, and whose skills would complement his own. The selection of Sarah Palin proved a near-perfect response to those needs. Palin's solid credentials as a conservative went a long way to satisfy demands from conservatives who worried McCain would be less like Ronald Reagan and more like Gerald Ford. Her accomplishments as a woman may not attract great numbers of Clinton supporters away from Obama, but those who had already defected to McCain are now more inclined to stay as his supporters. But more to the point, a huge demographic has opened for McCain-Palin, one which has been largely ignored by Barack Obama. In choosing Palin, McCain has taken advantage of yet another Obama blunder.
Palin's credentials also directly undercut Obama's claims to quality judgment and executive qualification. Even as Obama's supporters tried to ridicule Palin's experience as a mayor and governor, the scale of her accomplishments demonstrates that Obama and Biden, even put together, have effectively no executive experience of any kind, and worse, were unaware of that fact. Biden has shown that he does not understand the difference between committee experience in the Senate, and executive decisions made by a head of state, while Obama lamely tried to claim that running for President counted as executive experience (rather like saying that applying for a job means you have experience in it!).
This election, like 2004, will be decided by turnout, by which party convinces the most folks not only to like their candidates, but also to register and really, truly, go out and vote when the time comes. Sarah Palin is a trump card for which Obama-Biden simply has no answer.
TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008rncconvention; electionpresident; elections; gop; mccain; mccainpalin; palin
This election, like 2004, will be decided by turnout, by which party convinces the most folks not only to like their candidates, but also to register and really, truly, go out and vote when the time comes. Sarah Palin is a trump card for which Obama-Biden simply has no answer.
Turn out, show up, be heard. Let's win. Not for winning's sake but because the alternative is deplorable.
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posted on
09/05/2008 10:48:59 AM PDT
by
Delacon
To: Delacon
Ugh.. more “poll methodology” garbage. Save this stuff, you’re wrong on this.
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posted on
09/05/2008 10:56:33 AM PDT
by
Onerom99
To: Delacon
Yes. I would add that the most influential group likely to stay home in this election—indeed with a long record of staying home when they disapproved of the candidate—is southern Evangelicals.
Sarah Palin will certainly inspire them, as we’ve already seen. They distrusted McCain, with good reason, but now I’m pretty sure he has gained maybe 10 or 20 million conservative Evangelical votes with this pick. These are the guys who turned out in force in 2004 but stayed home in 2006.
No need to emphasize the fact, since it may turn off some other voters who are wary of the the “Christian right.” But it’s a comforting thought, IMHO. We are seeing the conservative coalition come back together again, without which they simply cannot win.
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posted on
09/05/2008 10:59:57 AM PDT
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: Delacon
Rasmussen's method of using a 90 day rolling self-report to measure party affiliation makes far more sense to me than using existing records. What method is better? I can't think of one. Personally, I consider the best method to be the actual vote on election day. I consider a vote for a republican to equal a republican voter. Therefore, the electorate was slightly republican in 2004 and a little more democrat in 2006.
Those numbers (not percentages) gives real data.
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posted on
09/05/2008 11:02:07 AM PDT
by
xzins
(Obama's Zero Experience: Not Close to McCain, Much Less that Sarah Palin)
To: Delacon
"Turn out, show up, be heard. Let's win. Not for winning's sake but because the alternative is deplorable deadly."
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posted on
09/05/2008 11:05:44 AM PDT
by
NoGrayZone
(NObama is the face of evil.)
To: All
This has been covered again and again.
Some pollsters use a purely random methodology for calls. Some pollsters note that the single most powerful determinant of how an affiliated voter will vote is party — and that random calls yield wide fluctuations of party mix obtained — so they force a mixture.
There was a time when Ras’s mixture was defined as simply the mix in exit polls of the previous election. He is refining that with his current method, to try to capture changes since the last election.
There are often only single digit percentages of voters who self identify as one party voting for the opposition candidate. Very tiny numbers, and frankly, I suspect the majority of those are lying to try to influence . . . whatever.
The two polling philosophies have merit. Both of them. Campaigns spend an enormous amount of money on polling, so don’t try to persuade yourself they are meaningless.
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posted on
09/05/2008 11:09:33 AM PDT
by
Owen
To: Delacon
I will crawl over a mile of broken glass to vote for her if necessary.
To: Onerom99; Cicero; xzins
Actually I thought that the polling crap was unnecessary to the article’s point that Palin and McCains judgement in picking Palin, would could and should increase turnout.
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posted on
09/05/2008 11:15:53 AM PDT
by
Delacon
("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
To: Onerom99
A shortcut:
Polling 39% Dimorats
Polling 32 % Pubbies
7 % difference in whom is bein polled, and the Dimorat is only leading by 2 points?
Does this mean ahat 5% of the Dimorats are voting McCain?????
To: ridesthemiles
It means McCain is doing better among no affiliated voters. Affiliated voters are assumed to vote for their party.
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posted on
09/05/2008 12:41:43 PM PDT
by
TomEwall
To: cotton1706
Turnout like W got in 2004 is an absolute necessity for John and the Sarahcuda to win. They will need workers on the ground. Will they be able to tap into the Rove genius and get hard workers to get the turnout especially in the battleground states? If not, they will lose. That is just political reality. But, if , if, the workers come out , they will actually be able to tap into Indies and Blue Dog Dems such as the old Reagan Dems in many border states. Apparently, the race is so close that in a few states, hundreds of voters,not thousands, will decide the state. Also, perhaps Sarahcuda could help lower House and Senate Gop races.
To: Delacon
I will turn out anyway. I will never give up an opportunity to vote. However, this election has made me do something that I haven’t done, in may years, and that was to sit down and watch the television. It also made me do something I have never done, which was to donate money to a political party or campaign.
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posted on
09/05/2008 1:01:44 PM PDT
by
webheart
(All sarcasm contained in this post is intentional, and does not necessarily reflect a real opinion)
To: xzins
The concept of weighting seems to make sense. However, I do have one question. Does the rolling average take into account percentage of democrats and Republicans who vote? For example, perhaps 39% identify as Democrats, but only 80% of the self identified Democrats make it to the polls while 85% of the Republicans make it to the polls.
Is the propensity to vote considered in the weighting?
To: xzins
This year though we are seeing an interesting phenomenon. Democratic affiliation went way up in the spring as there was high interest in the Dem primary. That is skewing the weightings.
But in recent months the affiliation gap favoring Democrats is shrinking and I think will shrink more in the fall campaign. Its already better than it was in 2006 telling me that we might not see as bad a result in 2006.
I’d be more interested in unweighted polls right now instead of these weighted ones.
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posted on
09/05/2008 7:19:40 PM PDT
by
WOSG
(McCain/Palin 08)
To: phillyfanatic
McCain/Palin will turn out more voters than W did.
There was an enthusiam gap but there isn't any more and judging by the fact that more people tuned in to McCains acceptance speech than Obamas, turnout is looking pretty good.
It won't be long now before we see the bumper stickers that say TICK OFF THE MSM, ELECT McCAIN/PALIN!
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posted on
09/05/2008 7:24:45 PM PDT
by
jwalsh07
(Sarah Palin Pro Life, Pro Gun, Pro America, Thank you Lord! :-})
To: CharacterCounts
They do that weighting in the “likely voter” polls, which can have differences from “registered voter” polls.
All of these factors are ‘sauce’ that can skew a poll if not done right. That’s why I call some poll “pollaganda” since they are designed to sell an agenda and not really accurately guage public opinion.
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posted on
09/05/2008 10:58:25 PM PDT
by
WOSG
(McCain/Palin 08)
To: phillyfanatic
“Will they be able to tap into the Rove genius and get hard workers to get the turnout especially in the battleground states? “
Will YOU be calling and blockwalking is the question those reading this. If base folks like us help the answer is yes, if the volunteers dont help, then no.
The excitement sinc Palin joined is encouraging but it needs to turn into action to win.
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posted on
09/05/2008 11:00:25 PM PDT
by
WOSG
(McCain/Palin 08)
To: cotton1706
I will crawl over a mile of broken glass to vote for her if necessary.I will crawl over broken glass in gym shorts, and barefooted without gloves or elbow pads for 2 miles to vote for her, if necessary. I call your hand.
To: jwalsh07
Today, I saw a newsmax.com comment about the huge voter registration numbers the Dems have over the Pubs. Walking the precincts, calling is the only way in the battleground states to keep the race close and hopefully, John can get those 270 electoral votes before the Messiah. I just don’t think more will turn out than in 2004 for the Pubs but you could be right. John has to win a purple state or two and at least one blue state. If he does, I think he will squeak by. And congressional races are almost as important since BO wants those 60 Senate votes so he can deal with guns, nuclear plants, EPA and EOC rules.
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