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Why Ukraine's Pro-Western Coalition Split (Tymoshenko Allying with Putin)
Time ^ | 09/04/08 | Time

Posted on 09/05/2008 6:25:32 PM PDT by GOPGuide

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Informed sources in both Moscow and Kiev have told TIME that Tymoshenko has reached a deal with the Kremlin, under which she would be more considerate of Russia's needs — particularly for long-term rights to its Black Sea naval base at Sevastopol — and would tone down her traditional anti-Moscow diatribes, and in return she may find Russia more flexible when it comes to negotiating next year's prices for the natural gas on which Ukraine depends. However, Tymoshenko firmly denies rumors of any accommodation with foreign powers, insisting that she abides only by the interests of Ukraine.

Rumors of a Tymoshenko deal with Moscow and the rift over Georgia among the Ukraine's political elite ignited the latest firestorm in the long-running power struggle. On Wednesday, Tymoshenko's party sided with =Yanukovych's and the Communists in several parliamentary votes that transferred a number of executive powers from the presidency to the office of prime minister. The powers lost by Yuschenko include the right to dismiss the Defense, Interior and Foreign Ministers, as well as control over the counter-intelligence service. The Tymoshenko-Yanukovych alliance, which created a veto-proof marriage of convenience, also simplified legislation on presidential impeachment.

"Today, a political and constitutional coup began in the parliament," Yuschchenko fumed on Wednesday, warning that he would use his right to disband the legislature unless a new coalition is formed within 30 days.

(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: cheney; coup; coupplots; dickcheney; geopolitics; putin; russia; tymoshenko; ukraine; yanukovich; yanukovych; yuschchenko
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1 posted on 09/05/2008 6:25:32 PM PDT by GOPGuide
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To: GOPGuide

russians are only 17% of the ukraine.


2 posted on 09/05/2008 6:29:25 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: GOPGuide
Informed sources in both Moscow and Kiev have told TIME that Tymoshenko has reached a deal with the Kremlin, under which she would be more considerate of Russia's needs — particularly for long-term rights to its Black Sea naval base at Sevastopol — and would tone down her traditional anti-Moscow diatribes, and in return she may find Russia more flexible when it comes to negotiating next year's prices for the natural gas on which Ukraine depends. However, Tymoshenko firmly denies rumors of any accommodation with foreign powers, insisting that she abides only by the interests of Ukraine....

I don't blame her; after all, what assurance does she have that the U.S. can come to her aid when Russia has a man in our WH "that has looked into Putin's soul and saw man I can trust!"...she might, however want to stall a bit until after Nov. 4, because John McCain looked into the same man's eyes and "SAW K-G-B!"

3 posted on 09/05/2008 6:30:03 PM PDT by meandog (please pray for future President McCain, day minus 142-Jan. 20--and counting)))
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To: GOPGuide

..I hope Yulia Tymoshenko puts Ukraine’s interests ahead of her own political ambitions—I suspect otherwise—so does Yuschenko...


4 posted on 09/05/2008 6:39:14 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: meandog

President Bush has acted honorably in regard to Russia.

I disagree with your assessment that we would not support Ukraine. Cheney is there contradicting your precise point.


5 posted on 09/05/2008 6:40:17 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: GOPGuide

Tymoshenko has at least one thing in common with a well known American politician.

6 posted on 09/05/2008 7:19:07 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: ken21
"russians are only 17% of the ukraine"

And, what, 50-60% of the Crimea?

Plus, the 300-year history of Sevastapol as the Black Sea port of the Russian Navy.

Please, don't dismiss the danger of any potential US interference (Cheney) is Ukrainian-Russian affairs.

Russia could EASILY take the Crimea...have people dancing in the streets...and have us with SEVERE credibility problems throughout the world.

IF we tried to resist Russian intervention in a real way, we'd find ourselves in a nuclear war.

7 posted on 09/05/2008 7:19:30 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner

that is true.

and the crimea was always a winter vacation spa for the government elite.


8 posted on 09/05/2008 7:20:57 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: GOPGuide

There may be a new synonym for quisling.


9 posted on 09/05/2008 7:21:26 PM PDT by Defiant ("There is only one man in this election who has ever really fought for you". Thus spoke Sarahthustra)
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To: wideminded

she has that viking look!

the vikings used to run their ships down the volga.


10 posted on 09/05/2008 7:26:28 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: ken21
she has that viking look! the vikings used to run their ships down the volga.

Her look is appeasement.

11 posted on 09/05/2008 7:40:18 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Mariner
Please, don't dismiss the danger of any potential US interference (Cheney) is Ukrainian-Russian affairs.

The U.S. and Ukraine can deal as they please. Your post suggests that Ukraine and the U.S. should appease Russia.

12 posted on 09/05/2008 7:43:31 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

cheney has softened his tone towards russia lately.


13 posted on 09/05/2008 7:48:27 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: GOPGuide

Putin has found another crooked oligarch to get behind. Putin and the gas princess are a perfect match!


14 posted on 09/05/2008 7:50:58 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: ken21
cheney has softened his tone towards russia lately.

For example, what?

15 posted on 09/05/2008 7:57:49 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

critics claimed that cheney’s remarks would further escalate tensions between russia and the u.s.

the response from the white house concerning cheney’s remarks was to deny that he was making russia an enemy.


16 posted on 09/05/2008 8:07:49 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: FreeReign

also, from today’s wsj the headline:

cheney assures georgia of u.s. support but curbs hawkish tone.


17 posted on 09/05/2008 8:10:05 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: ken21
also, from today’s wsj the headline: cheney assures georgia of u.s. support but curbs hawkish tone.

Here's the Wall St. Journal headline that I found today.

Looks like the same Cheney policy to me. How is that Cheney "softening his tone"?

18 posted on 09/05/2008 8:25:41 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

i’m looking at the wsj, p. a 8:

“cheney assures georgia of u.s. support but curbs hawkish tone”,

which supports my original reply to you.


19 posted on 09/05/2008 8:40:28 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: FreeReign

My post suggest the US should mind it’s own business and pursue only it’s real strategic interests.


20 posted on 09/05/2008 9:23:42 PM PDT by Mariner
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