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30 subway cars dropped off Cape May coast
star ledger ^ | 08.25.08 | Brian T. Murray and Wayne Woolley/

Posted on 09/05/2008 8:12:02 PM PDT by Coleus

With a tremendous splash and a profound thud, 30 old subway cars were dropped into the ocean off the coast of Cape May this morning, enlarging the nation's most extensive artificial reef system. State officials say the 18-ton cars -- stripped of their windows, wheels, axles and flooring -- will soon become home to a variety of ocean species. "They provide a very good habitat for marine life," said Hugh Carberry, the state Department of Environmental Protection's reef coordinator.


Workers dump New York City subway cars into the ocean off of Cape May on Monday. After a five year moratorium, New Jersey will continue to use subway cars to build up artificial reefs, which provide habitat and homes to marine life.

Today's operation marked the second since March, when the state lifted a controversial five-year moratorium on the use of subway cars for artificial reefs. In the first drop, 44 cars were sunk off Atlantic City. By 2011, some 600 of the decommissioned people-movers will have been deployed along the Jersey Shore. There they will join military tanks, tug boats, telephone cable, concrete blocks and other items that have been dropped since 1984 to establish habitats for fish and other sea creatures that would otherwise steer clear of the open and turbulent Atlantic Ocean floor. Reef programs are underway worldwide to maintain, if not restore, marine life.

The subway cars -- each 60 feet long, 10 feet wide and 11 feet high -- were donated by New York's Metropolitan Transportation Authority.


(Excerpt) Read more at nj.com ...


TOPICS: US: New Jersey; US: New York
KEYWORDS: capemay; coastalenvironment; environment; jerseyshore; marinebiology; subway; subwaycars
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1 posted on 09/05/2008 8:12:03 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: Coleus

did they have union bodies in them?


2 posted on 09/05/2008 8:15:10 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: Coleus

Please tell me that Michael Moore was in one of them........please.....make my day.


3 posted on 09/05/2008 8:15:31 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: Coleus

We have people combing the neighborhoods looking for scrap to sell. Vacant lots are cleaner than they have ever been. Occasionally some idiot goes for a copper theft in a power company’s substation but that seems to be a self-correcting situation. So why are cities strapped for cash dumping all that money in the ocean?


4 posted on 09/05/2008 8:17:44 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (don't worry, they only want to take water out of the other guy's side of the bucket.)
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To: shankbear
Please tell me that Michael Moore was in one of them..

Sorry, he wouldn't fit inside them. They tried. Also, the blubber probably would make it too buoyant.

5 posted on 09/05/2008 8:18:08 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: shankbear

Sorry to break the news, but Moore is still alive. Saw him on Larry King a while ago and he was pissed. But y’know ... that’s a good thing. It means things aren’t going well for his party.


6 posted on 09/05/2008 8:18:44 PM PDT by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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To: Coleus

Mayhap riders were aboard … go Tony Soprano! ;-)


7 posted on 09/05/2008 8:19:00 PM PDT by doc1019 (Palin '12)
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To: Coleus

Can you just imagine the confusion this is going to cause some future scientists, as they try to figure out how all those subway cars and tanks ended up on the bottom of the ocean.


8 posted on 09/05/2008 8:20:46 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory. - George Patton)
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To: Coleus

Buh bye, Jimmy Hoffa!


9 posted on 09/05/2008 8:20:51 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Are you ready to pray for Teddy?)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

Proves the Darwin theory, they’ll say!


10 posted on 09/05/2008 8:21:33 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Are you ready to pray for Teddy?)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

Yes, they’ll think they found Atlantis at last.


11 posted on 09/05/2008 8:22:13 PM PDT by exit82 (The only person that could get me to vote for John McCain is Sarah Palin -God bless her)
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To: Coleus

When you throw away a banana peel, it is litter, but when you toss a few tons of metal, synthetics, and plastics into the ocean they call it an artificial reef.

When a politician accepts a lunch with a constituent business owner it is called a bribe if he doesn’t report it and he gets run out of town (if he’s a Republican), but when a politician (Democrat) accepts hundreds of thousands of dollars in bribes or buys a house at a $300,000 discount because of a crooked real estate deal, it is okay.

I guess Size Does Matter.


12 posted on 09/05/2008 8:23:11 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Coleus

So how are those tire reefs working out for them?


13 posted on 09/05/2008 8:23:19 PM PDT by Clay Moore ("Bro, face it. You (print media) guys are the 8-track cassette of news")
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To: NonValueAdded

Around my parts, utility poles are being chopped down so the transformer case shatters upon crashing. Then the copper is removed. It’s a Michigan thing.


14 posted on 09/05/2008 8:31:11 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: NonValueAdded

So why are cities strapped for cash...etc...
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
That is what is becoming of ships also. “they” figure it is cheaper to sink them than to sell them for salvage...Couple of years ago they were TOWING ships from Norfolk and other East Coast “graveyards” to Europe to be scrapped, with some of them being ‘returned’ because they weren’t clean enough..I also think the companies doing the salvage were getting them delivered for ‘nothing’....


15 posted on 09/05/2008 8:31:16 PM PDT by xrmusn ( True gun control is hitting what you aim at.)
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To: Coleus

I just went to Cape May this summer on vacation, don’t you just love the Garden State Parkway? Gorgeous!

I wonder what marine life will inhabit these empty trains below?

And I wonder if the ghost of Blackbeard will ever take a gander at these very strange vessels now on his surf, er turf.


16 posted on 09/05/2008 8:33:49 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Coleus
new york subway

Cut fuel prices Drill 4 oil now

17 posted on 09/05/2008 8:42:10 PM PDT by Foolsgold ("We live in the greatest country in the world and I am going to change it" Barry O'boomarang 2008)
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To: Clay Moore
Off shore Charter Captains in the Gulf swear by 'em!
18 posted on 09/05/2008 8:44:09 PM PDT by redstateconfidential ("Go to the mattresses")
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To: Coleus

Subsidized housing for marine critters, who should have no problem finding a place in their own hood...

Meanwhile, we spend money and energy mining and refining metals that might be recycled more economically. Are we completely daft as a nation?


19 posted on 09/05/2008 8:47:12 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: shankbear

ROFL!

Don’t think the smaller marine life would want to settle in and make Michael Moore their home. They’re scared of whales.


20 posted on 09/05/2008 8:47:12 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Coleus

“enlarging the nation’s most extensive artificial reef system”

Oil drilling platforms make a good marine sanctuary.


21 posted on 09/05/2008 8:47:20 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Coleus
>The subway cars -- each 60 feet long, 10 feet wide and 11 feet high -- were donated by New York's Metropolitan Transportation Authority.<

the New York taxpayers.

22 posted on 09/05/2008 8:51:18 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you"--John Steinbeck)
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To: Coleus

But they could have been made in homes for the homeless!


23 posted on 09/05/2008 8:55:43 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (Real change actually changes something.)
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To: Revolting cat!; exit82
The History Channel had a program a few years ago called Deep Sea Detectives, and one of the episodes dealt with two locomotive engines that were found off the Jersey coast.

From what they could find, the two engines were probably built by the Seth Wilmarth Union Works of Boston between 1848 and 1855 and were likely lost at sea during a storm, either being pushed off a ship to keep the ship from going down or lost when the barge they were on sank (I support the barge theory since they are sitting side-by-side and upright).

They checked insurance records and shipping manifests, but could not find anything. In fact, the engines might not have been bound for an American destination, as the 2-2-2 wheel configuration was rare in the US, but common in England and Russia.

24 posted on 09/05/2008 9:17:00 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory. - George Patton)
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To: Coleus
So why can't we just dump anything in the ocean and call it an "artificial reef"?

And why don't we build more offshore oil platforms, on the basis that they'll become "artificial reefs"?
25 posted on 09/05/2008 9:26:30 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Obama Is For People Who Write US Magazine. Sarah Palin Is For People Who Read US Magazine.)
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To: All

With the price of scrap metal these days there was a better purpose for these steel subway cars.....


26 posted on 09/05/2008 9:57:44 PM PDT by Sir Hailstone (Just Another Bitter Republican Clinging to my Glock 19)
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To: Question Liberal Authority
And why don't we build more offshore oil platforms, on the basis that they'll become "artificial reefs"?

Noting supports life in the sea as well as an oil drilling platform. It's a fact the enviros can't get there puny little heads around.

27 posted on 09/05/2008 10:33:44 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Coleus

RV Habitat for the Homeless


28 posted on 09/06/2008 12:19:46 AM PDT by Tainan (Talk is cheap. Silence is golden. All I got is brass...lotsa brass.)
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