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McCain Haters For McCain
American Thinker ^ | September 05, 2008 | Randall Hoven

Posted on 09/06/2008 12:02:52 AM PDT by neverdem

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To: neverdem
This race is between Obama and Palin. McCain would do well just to kind of stay in the background.

I had to rethink my resolution to NEVER vote for McCain, when Obama became the nominee.

21 posted on 09/06/2008 12:36:38 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Read my lipstick")
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To: Southack

I believe the poster’s fear is more akin to letting someone like Obama be responsible for protecting your home and family.

I much prefer the lovely pitbull wearing the lipstick.


22 posted on 09/06/2008 12:37:36 AM PDT by incredulous joe
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To: Darkwolf377
That's right. Mrs. Palin is no Al Gore who wouldn’t stand up to Clinton's trashing of the Presidency.
23 posted on 09/06/2008 12:39:10 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Read my lipstick")
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To: Coldwater Creek
That's why Palin is such a smart and well thought-out choice--she reflects well on McCain because he chose someone HE should fear if he's not who he claims to be.

I trust McCain's promises because he's brought on his own ombudsman in Palin. I can't think of any democrat independent enough to bring an independent person onto the ticket in this way. It's truly startling.

24 posted on 09/06/2008 12:42:27 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Sarah Palin--the man Biden and Obama wish they could be.)
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To: neverdem

Great article! I’ve been debating about going to the polls simply for the same reasons. I groan when John McCain said he wanted to include Republicans, Democrats and Independents in his cabinet. He really doesn’t get it. I don’t think Palin is one to sit around.


25 posted on 09/06/2008 12:42:34 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: AmericanInTokyo
McCain will no longer be surrounded by 25 year olds, who actually run the Congress. He's going to have listen to the big guys now. Which is what I believe got us Sarah Palin. Some wise adviser said, choose a real conservative or you're going to loose. They made a believer out of him.
26 posted on 09/06/2008 12:44:15 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Read my lipstick")
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To: neverdem
Going with the writer's analogy, but correcting him where he has it wrong, Nixon does not equal McCain. Nixon = Bush, and Obama = Carter. That's where we're at right this minute, a very 1976ish situation. I'm not going to say McCain = '76 Reagan, but I certainly prefer the McCain/Palin ticket to Ford/Rockefeller. And an Obama administration would be just as disastrous to the country as Carter's was, if not moreso. Hell, he's already got a bunch of Carter's advisers on his team.

But we don't need to be thinking about McCain as the Democrat Lite that would bring us the raging lefty following in his wake. The raging lefty is here now (Obama), and he's following in the wake of an often times Democrat-Lite named Bush.

27 posted on 09/06/2008 12:51:05 AM PDT by squidly
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To: neverdem

Ridiculous logic.

We aren’t electing her as President, we’re electing him and he’s the same today as he was the day before he chose Sarah. I like Sarah, but some folks are fools for falling for his game. He played it right, brilliant choice, and it worked. All the attention is on her. Meanwhile, he’s free to move, seemingly undetected, as far to the left as he wants. Bravo McCain. Bravo


28 posted on 09/06/2008 12:53:13 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (Don't blame me.....I support DUNCAN HUNTER. / RIP LeRoi Moore Our loss, heaven's gain)
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To: Southack
But something happened. McCain reversed course on amnesty and even grudgingly supported building our Southern Border Fence...plus, McCain latched on to Drill Here, Drill now. McCain is a war hero, we all know that, but he supported the Surge in Iraq even before my hero, President Bush. That counts for something. He was for the Surge when sending more troops into Iraq was extremely unpopular...he’s resolute.Plus, McCain is pro-life.

He have hit all the points that I came to see about John McCain. But I must admit, I cannot say or write his name without hearing Sarah Palin saying the name at the same time. I was, like millions of people, powerfully moved by her speech at the convention.

But I was also powerfully moved by his speech the next day. And I think the key to John McCain the politician is his life in that cell in Hanoi. He died to self in that hell-hole. And the only thing he began living for was his country. I do believe the man wants to do what is good for his country, and not what is only good for himself or his buddies at the country club.

29 posted on 09/06/2008 12:56:35 AM PDT by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what shall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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To: neverdem

I sympathize, McCain-hater. McCain the man is perhaps the most respectable living figure in national politics. But I believe he would govern as a RINO in every arena save national defense. I believe this because of his record, and because of his leaning on the “maverick” label, which we all know refers to his frequent hops across the aisle (i.e. his frequent votes on the Democrat line). In McCain’s head, I’m sure he is a man above party. From the outside, he is a man between parties, leaning one way or another, often not to my satisfaction.

Perhaps it is not fair of me to single out McCain as an especially pernicious example of centrist bipartisanship (or, as I call it, sporadic liberalism). But my party (or formerly my party) has singled him out for me. For a time now, dissension has grown within me. i voted for Bush twice, swallowing steel tariffs, Medicare expansion, unbalanced budgets, pork-barrel spending, “compassion” (i.e. liberalism), No Child Left Behind instead of school choice, and so on.

The spectre of terrorism; the tax cuts; and the valiant, if truncated, assualt on Social Security kept me on board. But now, I wonder what I will gain by the switch to McCain. I know that I will lose ground on immigration and environmentalism. He talks of tax cuts and limited government only in generalities. He made a strong case for school choice, but then there was that claptrap about federal community colleges.

For those of you tired of RINOs, sick of ever-advancing centralism, socialism, and environmentalism (three synonyms, I realize), when are you going to do something about it? Why isn’t McCain too far? Can you imagine, eight years ago, in the McCain/Feingold era, rooting for this guy? When will the time come to embrace a new Goldwater, a new Reagan? When will we purge the party of its Lindsays, its Rockefellers, its Nixons, and its McCains?

Why isn’t now the time? I know what you’ll answer (since you’ve already answered above). You’ll say Obama is too dangerous. You’ll say Obama is the most unqualified and the most liberal candidate in this country’s history. I take your point. I might say now is as good a time as any to prove to the people how disastrous a quasi-socialist can be. But I know that economic or foreign-policy disasters on Obama’s watch would probably be spun by the media to advocate further state expansion, as all disasters are.

Then there’s Palin, who has excited me like no other politician in my lifetime—though my enthusiasm may be a bit premature. I was too young for the Reagan Revolution, the first election I can recall was Bob Dole’s run at the house. In four years, I’d vote for Palin. In eight years, I’d vote for Palin. But now, under McCain, I don’t see her doing much.

She cannot put McCain over the top. I choose now to strike out, to vote third party. I welcome a Goldwater to step up to be struck down (hard) by the left and the media. I welcome a William F. Buckley to put verbalize our angst and stand athwart the tide of liberalism. I welcome a Reagan (Palin?) to stand astride the pillars of power and yell, “Out, you pharisees! Out I say!” I welcome the internet to poor forth the wills of a hundred million rugged-individualists onto the opinion of the hour.

The rapture will come again. Then another Gengrich Revotlution will putter out, and another watered-down liberal will rule in our name, and we will have to begin again. Eternal vigilence is so annoying.


30 posted on 09/06/2008 1:00:26 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: neverdem
Republicans do not win by moving left. They win by being Republican: pro-freedom, pro-defense, pro-American, by being the party of small government and big ideas.

We seem to keep forgetting that.

31 posted on 09/06/2008 1:07:11 AM PDT by Gamecock
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To: neverdem

I am voting for Sarah Palin in November. McCain will benefit.


32 posted on 09/06/2008 1:08:33 AM PDT by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: neverdem

McCain wasn’t my choice, but the primaries are over, and I’ll vote for him. I cannot understand why the McCain haters don’t realize they’re helping Obama, and I’m sick of their whining.


33 posted on 09/06/2008 1:09:47 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Gamecock
"We seem to keep forgetting that."

No, the GOP leadership keeps forgetting that. Those conservatives who rose up against the GOP leaders this year were heard, just as with the Immigration Shamnesty Bill in 2007.

34 posted on 09/06/2008 1:11:07 AM PDT by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: COgamer
I’m amazed by how many people needed Sarah Palin to see the light as to how big a disaster allowing Obama to win would be for America.

That's because you're still missing the point. Obama's not the issue: McCain himself, is.

35 posted on 09/06/2008 1:22:40 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: Darkwolf377
Palin would be the McCain to McCain—if he went too far left, she would have no problem announcing this to all, even resigning her vice presidency so she could run against him should he seek re-election as a Democrat-Lite in 2012.

I have even wondered about that myself. What if McCain went off the reservation? Would she quit the VP job, like she quit the oil and gas board in Alaska? I really think she would. In fact, I think it would be a no-brainer for her. She would do it on principle, but it would also be a brilliant political move. The GOP would certainly side with her over an old man deserting principle, and the democrats certainly wouldn't come to his rescue. She would immediately become the odds-on favorite in the next election. Of course McCain knows all of this, so Sarah will keep him in line. What other VP in the history of our country had such a noose around a President's neck?
36 posted on 09/06/2008 1:24:00 AM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: GLDNGUN

Keeping McCain from being McCain is not the reason to support Palin; her being the leader of the Republican Party once McCain leaves public life is.


37 posted on 09/06/2008 1:27:04 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Do you think he will go RINO if President, or will he "conservatize".

McCain's choice of Palin puts the Obama/Biden ticket into a corner they cannot escape. When McCain takes office on January 20th, 2009, his choice of Palin puts him into a corner he cannot escape.
38 posted on 09/06/2008 1:29:20 AM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: neverdem
You could almost think McCain knows what he's doing.

After having watched how McCain and his team have handled this campaign from the start, and almost missing it, until somewhere between Saddleback, and the Dem Convention, I'd say that Mr. Hoven *almost* nailed it. I *do* think that McCain knows what he's doing, and it's been absolutely brilliant!

Lastly, I just *know* that he has even more tricks up his sleeve to finish this arrogant poseur off, between now, and November. He isn't finished yet...

the infowarrior

39 posted on 09/06/2008 1:33:36 AM PDT by infowarrior (“Let the voters decide if Palin is laughable.”-Tublecane)
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To: Darkwolf377

I agree. On the flip-side, Obama is the “One” that could pass some untouchable reform that only a dictator could accomplish. He’d be a one termer or deposed...but the Socialist Amerika progressive changes would be made and the democrats could play dumb. Obama would be championed (like MLK) in revisionist textbooks.


40 posted on 09/06/2008 1:33:58 AM PDT by endthematrix
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