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Posted on 09/06/2008 12:02:52 AM PDT by neverdem
I think I'm fairly representative of those conservatives who just could not stand to vote for John McCain. But I now plan to vote for him this November. Let me tell you why.
I’m amazed by how many people needed Sarah Palin to see the light as to how big a disaster allowing Obama to win would be for America.
I forgot all about that: I don’t have to hold my nose anymore!
Welcome them home!
We need every swingin’, ahem, weewee in the field. So to speak. PG version there.
Obama will get us nuked. The guy is that clueless and incredibly dangerous. Sends a chill down my spine that so many Americans are spellbound by this guy.
We all gotta get in the game this time, and make it a decisive LOSS for him.
None of this one state scraping by with a bare minimal victory stuff.
Imagine what would happen? No Obama, no peace!
Lets kick his ass good!
Palin would be the McCain to McCain—if he went too far left, she would have no problem announcing this to all, even resigning her vice presidency so she could run against him should he seek re-election as a Democrat-Lite in 2012.
Palin represents freedom we haven’t seen for a long time.
No he won't. Seriously, that scenario is not going to happen.
He will negotiate with the terrorists or whoever, and allow them to peacefully migrate en masse into our cities, where thousands of "community organizers" would incorporate them into our new Sharia-law-bound communities. And he would be praised for "making peace".
You have made your choice. In all fairness, did you not hate McCain's political positions as a moderate/centrist (and liberal at times) rather than hate Mr McCain the man?
I just had a few questions outside of that. THESE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH OBAMA, but stand on their own strength intrinsically with and about HIM. I ask them in all civil sincerity.
You objected to him as I see it because of his liberal voting record and antics, it seems.
Did he change or did you?
Do you think he will go RINO if President, or will he "conservatize".
Any percentage chances on that, either way? And, most importantly, if he does go RINO on us, what should we as Conservatives do next?. Should we oppose him, or support him as our President?
Let us think long term also, I am talking six months out now. As you have thought these through now, I would imagine you have conclusions and strategies on these. Please share, Mr. Hoven, if at all you are reading this..
I just pray she can slap some sense into him regarding global warming, immigration and the great biofuel scam.
McCain wanted Lieberman, but when that polled in the toilet, he realized the only way to solidify his base was to pick a hardcore conservative.
Even McCain has to be shocked at how well this choice has worked, and I can't imagine him turning his back on conservatives now. Not that Palin would let him.
Meanwhile, the sit-at-home "true patriots" have gotten nothing for their efforts; McCain's choice was based on conservatives willing to vote for him IF they thought they could work with him.
I was a FredHead (still am) and used rationals like the poster to not support McCain. But Sarah Palin changed it for me. I will volunteer and help to get them elected. I am excited about the race!
I'll be honest. I was one of them. I was completely disinterested in the 2008 election.
Frustrated with the last few years, I'd actually resigned myself to say, "Screw it! Let Obama win!"
When they spoke about Palin energizing the base, they were speaking to me.
Welcome to our club, Mr Hoven.
Have just the teensiest bit of crow served with a side of humble pie.
Hopefully, you haven’t arrived too late. I don’t think that you have.
I once swore I’d never vote for McCain...Palin has changed that.
I too campaigned against McCain in 2000 and 2004...and his immigration stance and Campaign Finance Reform bore me out.
But something happened. McCain reversed course on amnesty and even grudgingly supported building our Southern Border Fence...plus, McCain latched on to Drill Here, Drill now.
McCain is a war hero, we all know that, but he supported the Surge in Iraq even before my hero, President Bush. That counts for something. He was for the Surge when sending more troops into Iraq was extremely unpopular...
...and that’s when I learned something about McCain...he’s resolute. Just like when I hated his persistance in supporting CFR at every turn, so I came to love his support for the Surge. He never waivered on it.
I can dig it!
Plus, McCain is pro-life. The next 4 SCOTUS Justices need to be pro-life. We can bury Roe v Wade!
So I actually came around to McCain prior to him picking Governor Palin...I was even resigned to “supporting” him if he picked Lieberman.
I am *so* glad that he picked Sarah, though! Now I won’t be holding my nose to vote for McCain...and I even sent him some money.
That’s a big turnaround for me. I walked the walk and talked the talk against him in 2000 and 2004. Nice that I don’t have to be against him this time, though.
...and that whole Obama thing?! People! Come on...he’ll be a historical laughingstock who will make people forget McGovern himself.
When a bright light is brough into a room , everyone can see everything a LOT clearer.
Anyone remember, he’s also going to review every government department and then make it all accessable to the American people?
Oh HELL YA! About damn time!
Being afraid of the effeminate Obama would be like being scared by Michael Jackson in his Thriller video. Oooh, scary demon vampire makeup!
Great! I would love to see those polls which show Barr running at a 4 point clip draining down to ones and point-fives before I will sleep a little better.
I had to rethink my resolution to NEVER vote for McCain, when Obama became the nominee.
I believe the poster’s fear is more akin to letting someone like Obama be responsible for protecting your home and family.
I much prefer the lovely pitbull wearing the lipstick.
I trust McCain's promises because he's brought on his own ombudsman in Palin. I can't think of any democrat independent enough to bring an independent person onto the ticket in this way. It's truly startling.
Great article! I’ve been debating about going to the polls simply for the same reasons. I groan when John McCain said he wanted to include Republicans, Democrats and Independents in his cabinet. He really doesn’t get it. I don’t think Palin is one to sit around.
But we don't need to be thinking about McCain as the Democrat Lite that would bring us the raging lefty following in his wake. The raging lefty is here now (Obama), and he's following in the wake of an often times Democrat-Lite named Bush.
We aren’t electing her as President, we’re electing him and he’s the same today as he was the day before he chose Sarah. I like Sarah, but some folks are fools for falling for his game. He played it right, brilliant choice, and it worked. All the attention is on her. Meanwhile, he’s free to move, seemingly undetected, as far to the left as he wants. Bravo McCain. Bravo
He have hit all the points that I came to see about John McCain. But I must admit, I cannot say or write his name without hearing Sarah Palin saying the name at the same time. I was, like millions of people, powerfully moved by her speech at the convention.
But I was also powerfully moved by his speech the next day. And I think the key to John McCain the politician is his life in that cell in Hanoi. He died to self in that hell-hole. And the only thing he began living for was his country. I do believe the man wants to do what is good for his country, and not what is only good for himself or his buddies at the country club.
I sympathize, McCain-hater. McCain the man is perhaps the most respectable living figure in national politics. But I believe he would govern as a RINO in every arena save national defense. I believe this because of his record, and because of his leaning on the “maverick” label, which we all know refers to his frequent hops across the aisle (i.e. his frequent votes on the Democrat line). In McCain’s head, I’m sure he is a man above party. From the outside, he is a man between parties, leaning one way or another, often not to my satisfaction.
Perhaps it is not fair of me to single out McCain as an especially pernicious example of centrist bipartisanship (or, as I call it, sporadic liberalism). But my party (or formerly my party) has singled him out for me. For a time now, dissension has grown within me. i voted for Bush twice, swallowing steel tariffs, Medicare expansion, unbalanced budgets, pork-barrel spending, “compassion” (i.e. liberalism), No Child Left Behind instead of school choice, and so on.
The spectre of terrorism; the tax cuts; and the valiant, if truncated, assualt on Social Security kept me on board. But now, I wonder what I will gain by the switch to McCain. I know that I will lose ground on immigration and environmentalism. He talks of tax cuts and limited government only in generalities. He made a strong case for school choice, but then there was that claptrap about federal community colleges.
For those of you tired of RINOs, sick of ever-advancing centralism, socialism, and environmentalism (three synonyms, I realize), when are you going to do something about it? Why isn’t McCain too far? Can you imagine, eight years ago, in the McCain/Feingold era, rooting for this guy? When will the time come to embrace a new Goldwater, a new Reagan? When will we purge the party of its Lindsays, its Rockefellers, its Nixons, and its McCains?
Why isn’t now the time? I know what you’ll answer (since you’ve already answered above). You’ll say Obama is too dangerous. You’ll say Obama is the most unqualified and the most liberal candidate in this country’s history. I take your point. I might say now is as good a time as any to prove to the people how disastrous a quasi-socialist can be. But I know that economic or foreign-policy disasters on Obama’s watch would probably be spun by the media to advocate further state expansion, as all disasters are.
Then there’s Palin, who has excited me like no other politician in my lifetime—though my enthusiasm may be a bit premature. I was too young for the Reagan Revolution, the first election I can recall was Bob Dole’s run at the house. In four years, I’d vote for Palin. In eight years, I’d vote for Palin. But now, under McCain, I don’t see her doing much.
She cannot put McCain over the top. I choose now to strike out, to vote third party. I welcome a Goldwater to step up to be struck down (hard) by the left and the media. I welcome a William F. Buckley to put verbalize our angst and stand athwart the tide of liberalism. I welcome a Reagan (Palin?) to stand astride the pillars of power and yell, “Out, you pharisees! Out I say!” I welcome the internet to poor forth the wills of a hundred million rugged-individualists onto the opinion of the hour.
The rapture will come again. Then another Gengrich Revotlution will putter out, and another watered-down liberal will rule in our name, and we will have to begin again. Eternal vigilence is so annoying.
We seem to keep forgetting that.
I am voting for Sarah Palin in November. McCain will benefit.
McCain wasn’t my choice, but the primaries are over, and I’ll vote for him. I cannot understand why the McCain haters don’t realize they’re helping Obama, and I’m sick of their whining.
No, the GOP leadership keeps forgetting that. Those conservatives who rose up against the GOP leaders this year were heard, just as with the Immigration Shamnesty Bill in 2007.
That's because you're still missing the point. Obama's not the issue: McCain himself, is.
Keeping McCain from being McCain is not the reason to support Palin; her being the leader of the Republican Party once McCain leaves public life is.
After having watched how McCain and his team have handled this campaign from the start, and almost missing it, until somewhere between Saddleback, and the Dem Convention, I'd say that Mr. Hoven *almost* nailed it. I *do* think that McCain knows what he's doing, and it's been absolutely brilliant!
Lastly, I just *know* that he has even more tricks up his sleeve to finish this arrogant poseur off, between now, and November. He isn't finished yet...
I agree. On the flip-side, Obama is the “One” that could pass some untouchable reform that only a dictator could accomplish. He’d be a one termer or deposed...but the Socialist Amerika progressive changes would be made and the democrats could play dumb. Obama would be championed (like MLK) in revisionist textbooks.
Let’s flip a couple of Great Lakes states this time, get up over 300. Who knows? With McCain + military, Palin as both female and northwesterner who knows commercial fishing, and our gateway status with Alaska - we may even stand an outside shot at Washington State this time around.
McCain is not the best conservative out there. But would you rather have a guy who is conservative 2 out of 3 times or a guy who is conservative 0 out of 3 times?
It sure would be nice to knock out Obama this year and then have Palin knock out Hillary in 2012. Because if we can control the white house through 2016 or 2020. Conservatives would own the Supreme Court. Most people dont realize that court is where the real power is in this country. If the far-left activists gain control of it, they could destroy our constitution. A recent poll of Obama supporters showed that 49% believe Supreme Court judges should rule on their “own personal sense of fairness” rather than what it says in the constitution. Scary!
I still marvel at the studied ignorance practiced over the Carter administration! Talk about someone who should have been prosecuted after leaving office!
And, of course, they realize that, since Barry is ridiculous, than only ridicule can take him down.
A smart and gutsy strategy, from a smart and gutsy man.
Well, if we get the “new, improved” McCain in there, we also need to give him a more conservative Congress. A McCain administration with a 58 seat Dem Senate (and the 8 or so RINOS) won’t be able to get anyone to the right of Souter onto SCOTUS.....and God only knows who Obama, with that same majority, would foist upon us.
One thing at a time, one thing at a time.....
I had never considered John McCain to actually be that intelligent, but the way he's set up this campaign, which has been just totally jaw-dropping in its scope, has caused me to re-evaluate many of my previous opinions of the man, all to his favor. Quite an accomplishment on his part, as I'll opine that I have the tendency to be as stubborn as he can be...
Interesting editorial. I’m not enthusiastic about McCain, but I’m committed to voting for him. And Sarah Palin, while not my first choice for VP, has turned out to be one of the reasons why.
Hmm... hadn't thought that far down the track yet, but you're right.
Obama will now top McGovern for the absolute worst candidate the RATs have ever run. And that's saying something, considering they ran Lurch four years ago!
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