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More needless carnage
Boston Globe ^ | Today | Boston Globe

Posted on 09/07/2008 12:49:14 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant

ANOTHER DEADLY combination of too many guns and too little mental healthcare has exploded in Washington state, where a 28-year-old man allegedly killed six people on a two-hour shooting rampage Tuesday. The tragic story could get lost in the week's focus on presidential politics, but the presidential campaign is precisely where these issues should be debated.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: banglist; crap; mentalhealth; shooting
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ITS OUR FAULT!!!!!!! MORE TAX MONEY FOR COKEHEAD KILLERS
1 posted on 09/07/2008 12:49:14 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant

I thought the Globe had come up with another Palin “scandal.” That’s a very misleading headline.


2 posted on 09/07/2008 12:50:51 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (McCain/Palin '08! Real change you won't have to "believe in." You'll be able to see it!!!)
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant

Another example of two few guns and too much mental healthcare.


3 posted on 09/07/2008 12:50:55 PM PDT by eclecticEel (men who believe deeply in something, even wrong, usually triumph over men who believe in nothing)
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant
Liberals want to take away our guns and give more of our money to the crazy! Jeez.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

4 posted on 09/07/2008 12:51:28 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant

Thank the liberals who have made possible the rules that now govern the mental health care system. Too many people that should be under care are not...because you know they have the right to sign themselves out of treatment. I will bet that the parents of this kid were frustrated by the same rules by the way the article states that he was in and out of treatment.


5 posted on 09/07/2008 12:53:24 PM PDT by donnab (some people use change to promote their careers...others use their careers to promote change.)
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant

I’m sorry, but where is the evidence that money spent on “mental health” prevents these nuts from shooting up people?


6 posted on 09/07/2008 12:54:56 PM PDT by BobL (http://www.brusselsjournal.com/blog/4556 (here is where the real Europe is going))
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Problem is that lefists value the rights of the criminally insane over the rights of law abiding Americans.


7 posted on 09/07/2008 12:56:37 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Why Is It That The People Who Claim Ron Paul Is "Nuts"...Are Actually Nuttier Themselves..)
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant

I would like to know how this little prick got a gun though.


8 posted on 09/07/2008 12:57:38 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant
"The tragic story could get lost in the week's focus on presidential politics, but the presidential campaign is precisely where these issues should be debated."

Trying to set an agenda? I'd love for that debate to get started. A gun control debate of any kind is a loser for democrats, except for in San Francisco maybe.

9 posted on 09/07/2008 1:07:08 PM PDT by KoRn (Barack Obama Must Be Stopped!!!)
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Liberals could never win a debate about gun control if they were restricted to fact and truth. They think their wants and feelings should rate the same as facts and truth.
Every statistic I know of shows that gun control does not work, never has, and never will!!!!!!!!!
Take a look at Chicago and see how all of Berry's “organizing” and gestapo orientated gun control laws stopped violent gun crime. In this gun control Nazi city more people were killed by guns last year than the total loss of US troops in Afghanistan and Iraq during the same period of time!!!!!!! This is what liberals and gun control laws get you, many more dead citizens!!!! That is exactly what the statistics prove.
10 posted on 09/07/2008 1:16:07 PM PDT by oldenuff2no (Retired AB ranger and damn proud of it!!! I served to support our constitution and our way of life.)
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant

Let’s see:

Multiple arrests and stays in jail.

Multiple stays in mental health facilities

Multiple laws and regulations abused,unused or ignored
completely.

But because the System failed at every opportunity to stop this madman, the wacko liberals want the government to suppress MY rights to own a gun to protect myself and my family from criminals like this.


11 posted on 09/07/2008 1:16:26 PM PDT by RedMonqey
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant

Hey, the Globe is half right, anyway—if citizens inside the beltway were able to exercise their Second Amendment rights, teh crazee (and subsequent crime) would drop considerably.


12 posted on 09/07/2008 1:17:01 PM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant

WAIT I have THE Answer!!! Just make murder illegal, oh wait it already is???

hmmm


13 posted on 09/07/2008 1:18:37 PM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama - The corruption has not changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

“Problem is that lefists value the rights of the criminally insane over the rights of law abiding Americans.”

They could care less for the insane. They are simply using this as a tool to push their agenda of disarming the civilian population.


14 posted on 09/07/2008 1:20:04 PM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama - The corruption has not changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant
The suspect, Isaac Zamora, had been in and out of mental hospitals, and jails, for years.

Wait a minute. I thought you said there was too little mental health care available.

Ah, well, what do you expect from The Boston Glob but self-contradiction?

And if there is too little mental health care available in Warshington State you can point the finger directly at Liberalism which has been the governing ideology in that water-logged state for decades.

And I don't want to hear no crap from you Washington Staters about how it doesn't rain every day there (at least West of The Cascades). I lived there for 15 years so I know first-hand that it rains 365 days a year. Except for Leap Years.

15 posted on 09/07/2008 1:29:29 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (What do Barack Obama and a bowl of chili have in common?)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

While I’m wondering whether that info has been released or not. Was it the weapon of the officer he killed?


16 posted on 09/07/2008 1:33:48 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant
By all means, let's have that debate. The RNC would be quite willing to set everything up in Joe Biden's birthplace.
17 posted on 09/07/2008 1:36:43 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Your guy believed a complete ban on handguns was compatible with the 2nd Amendment, before he didn't)
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant
There is no license, permit, or registration required to buy or own a handgun, . . .
And how do any of these stop a murderer?

. . . and background checks are not automatically required for gun sales.
Note the apples/oranges spin - talk about handguns in the first part, then refer to "guns" in the second - implying there are no laws covering handgun sales. Can anybody from Washington clarify what the laws are?

18 posted on 09/07/2008 1:41:01 PM PDT by Oatka (A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant

This happened in Skagit County, WA where I live. In Whatcom County, just to the north, a tax increase was just approved- to aid in mental health care and drug treatment programs. Here is an article from the Bellingham (Whatcom County) newspaper today addressing this issue: http://www.bellinghamherald.com/255/story/537221.html


19 posted on 09/07/2008 2:05:49 PM PDT by luckymom (Forget the baby whales, save the baby humans.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

I would like to know how this little prick got a gun though.

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Wrong concern. I would like to know why no one he assaulted was carrying.


20 posted on 09/07/2008 2:18:29 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell
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