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Homosexual U.K. Documentarian Says Gay Lifestyle a "Sewer" of Degrading Sex, Drug Abuse and Misery
LifeSiteNews ^ | 9/10/08 | Hilary White

Posted on 09/10/2008 3:37:46 PM PDT by wagglebee

LONDON, September 10, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A British homosexual journalist admits that his documentary on the London gay scene is likely to "burn every bridge in the gay world I've got."

Simon Fanshawe is a writer and broadcaster who created the documentary "The Trouble With Gay Men" after becoming increasingly alarmed at the shallowness and destructiveness of the "gay lifestyle." The film, made for BBC 3 television, questions the emotional and psychological immaturity, narcissism, nihilism and self-destructive tendencies of many in the homosexual community. Fanshawe says he wants homosexual men to "grow up" and get beyond their state of "extended adolescence."

Fanshawe, who was involved in the early homosexualist political movement, says, "We've fought discrimination and prejudice, only to wreck ourselves with drugs and wild sex."

In his documentary Fanshawe admits that the homosexualist movement has in the main achieved its political goals of equalising homosexuality with natural sexual relations, in abolishing laws against sodomy and creating legal equivalency with marriage and adoption. Given these achievements, Fanshawe asks, "Why do we seem hell bent on behaving like eternal teenagers?"

"We're hooked on vanity, and regard older men with contempt. Despite AIDS we're still chasing the ultimate sexual high and what's more are determined to wreck ourselves on designer drugs. We're happy to assist the straight world in keeping alive the image of all gay men as limp-wristed queens."

He says that he has recently "started to worry" about the ways in which "gay liberation is celebrated" in his hometown of Brighton, a major centre of the homosexual subculture. At the annual "Mr. Gay" beauty pageant, which he describes as a "pathetic display of self-delusion", Fanshawe tells a contestant, "I'm old enough to remember when all those women were fighting against Miss World...What we're all saying about ourselves is that actually to be really gay, properly gay, what you've got to be is cute, and young."

"Extreme vanity" he says, has been "sewn into gay culture." It "is now so mainstream in the gay community that otherwise intelligent young men are happy to be treated as sex objects on a demeaning meat rack."

Gay men, he says, are so "hardwired" towards finding casual sexual encounters, some going as far as plastic implants to enhance their appearance, that finding genuine intimacy is "practically impossible."

"Vast amounts of our leisure time are organised around sex, straight or gay. But what gay men have done is organise our identity around sex. And that is corrosive. And to make things worse, promiscuity has become the norm."

The documentarian asks the proprietor of a gay sex bath house, "Paul", who had just related some graphic stories of group sexual encounters in the establishment, "Are we just swimming around in a sewer which we're just sort of saying is normal?"

For objecting to the lifestyle of pursuing casual and "extreme" sex and for holding genuine human intimacy as a goal, Paul told Fanshawe that he is "the closest thing to a straight person in a gay man's body I have ever met. There should be an operation for you, dear."

Paul was adamant and forthright in his belief that the gay lifestyle is incompatible with happiness and fidelity in human relations, expressing his dissatisfaction with civil unions legislation. "The temptation of other things will always stand in the way of two gay men having a long-term, loving, caring relationship."

Fanshawe says he is horrified at the lack of emotional involvement and at the willingness of men to engage in "unsafe sex." The film includes statistics that show the deadly consequences of the homosexual lifestyle. One in nine gay men in London is HIV infected and new cases of HIV have doubled in the city in five years. Incidences of syphilis have increased in the same time period 616 per cent.

"Unsafe" sex, he says, is not the only way in which gay men are self destructive. "If there's a new drug, gay men will find it and take it," he states.

At one point Fanshawe interviews a homosexual man who has "done all the drugs" and now campaigns in gay clubs against the growing use of crystal methamphetamine. The man, who could not be identified for fear of reprisals from drug dealers, said that crystal meth is preferred in the gay community because it reduces the inhibitions and allows sex to be brought to an "animalistic" level "devoid of emotion." The film says that one in five gay men in London use crystal meth.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; prolife; psychology; wod
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To: NoLibZone
Absolutely it is scary. Could almost be said AIDS is the least of their worries, without exaggerating. That is exactly why feeding into their fantasies is not only NOT loving, it is irresponsible. Telling kids their lifestyles are normal and healthy is abuse and neglect.
41 posted on 09/10/2008 4:48:41 PM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: wagglebee

PING = later ref


42 posted on 09/10/2008 4:51:31 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: wagglebee

This will be widely attacked and discredited. Heaven forbid an honest portrayal of this lifestyle.


43 posted on 09/10/2008 4:53:05 PM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: Always Right

At this point, the only people who can credibly criticize the homosexual lifestyle are homosexuals themselves. The rest of us are too easily dismissed as haters, bigots, etc., etc. This guy has performed a service in making this film, but I wonder how much publicity it will receive. Will college kids learn about it? I doubt it.


44 posted on 09/10/2008 5:04:46 PM PDT by beejaa
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To: wagglebee

Mark my words:
Just because you’re gay doesn’t mean you need to hang around with other gay people. It is because of this self-ghettoization that the open-sewer that is the “gay lifestyle” has come into being.
Nip those collectivist impulses in the bud and STAY WHO YOU ARE. You shouldn’t feel alienated because all of your friends are straight; they’re your friends, and what kind of asshole would you be if you dumped them (for a bunch of flamers) just because they were straight?


45 posted on 09/10/2008 5:19:37 PM PDT by ClaudiusI
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To: ClaudiusI

unbelievable.


46 posted on 09/10/2008 5:35:06 PM PDT by Chickensoup ('08 VOTING for the SUPREME COURT that will be BEST for my FAMILY and voting for SARAH PALIN!!!)
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To: wintertime

Well, now that you mention it...

Actually, when the whole gay-marriage thing was kicking off years ago, there were gays who frankly admitted that marriage was the last thing they were interested in since it would cramp their style (so to speak). Their objections were dampened somewhat by the assurance that with “no-fault divorce”, they could get out fairly easily when something “better” came along.


47 posted on 09/10/2008 6:17:50 PM PDT by sailor4321
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To: wagglebee
Paul was adamant and forthright in his belief that the gay lifestyle is incompatible with happiness and fidelity in human relations, expressing his dissatisfaction with civil unions legislation. "The temptation of other things will always stand in the way of two gay men having a long-term, loving, caring relationship."

Duh. Or is that Doh.
A friend of mine is a lesbian. She has had three partners. The first she was with, I think 5 years and then that woman found someone else. Then the second lasted 7 years and she found someone else. Then the last one lasted 17 years, until the woman died. What I learned from listening to her tell her stories was that other than the sexual part of the relationship, each was really just two female "room mates" who became (really) close friends. Especially the last woman. When she was sick and hospitalized, my friend stayed with her all night and went to work every morning. The woman was in hospice when she died. My friend broke down and cried as she told me about her.

I now look at homosexuality differently. If a "gay" couple have a close friendship and like each other as a close friend would, then the 'sex' part is not the most important facet of their relationship. I would call these the "friendship-gay" people.

If a "gay" couple are together just to have "sex" all the time and there would be no relationship without the sex, then they're no different from a prostitute and a pimp, which may be why they get into drugs. There's no "love and caring" in the relationship, it's all for sexual gratification. I call these the "druggie-gay" people. This group is definitely not "happy and gay" and it is this group that Paul was referring to, I think.
48 posted on 09/10/2008 6:27:40 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (The Number of the Beast:"six hundred threescore six." Barack Hussein Obama can translate:"Lucifer.")
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To: Stentor; Marty; Fractal Trader; metmom; John Valentine; editor-surveyor; Mr Ramsbotham; Chode; ...
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49 posted on 09/10/2008 6:31:26 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: wagglebee

Great find!


50 posted on 09/10/2008 6:32:00 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

BTTT


51 posted on 09/10/2008 6:36:25 PM PDT by valkyry1 (McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: Clemenza

This guy is an old queen and unhappy that he’s not getting the attention that the young bucks are getting. Kind of like a NAG of the gay set.

He wouldn’t have created this film if he was 30 years younger.

That said. He’s right.


52 posted on 09/10/2008 6:56:26 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: AndyJackson

Well, thank you. I appreciate that.


53 posted on 09/10/2008 7:04:48 PM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: valkyry1

Exactly!


54 posted on 09/10/2008 7:30:03 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Graybeard58
...but that doesn't explain to me how anyone could be sexually attracted to infants and I've wondered about that.

...or barn yard animals.

...or kitchen appliances.

...or upright vacuum cleaners.

55 posted on 09/10/2008 7:37:34 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: wagglebee

I hope this man has a bodyguard or some sort of protection against the fanatical queers who will be foaming at the mouth when they read this.


56 posted on 09/10/2008 7:41:46 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: NoLibZone

can you give some examples of what your wife has seen?


57 posted on 09/10/2008 7:50:03 PM PDT by annelizly
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To: wagglebee
Fanshawe says he wants homosexual men to "grow up" and get beyond their state of "extended adolescence."

Well, there's still a certain amount of delusion going on here. Fanshawe may as well tell a clinically depressed person to "cheer up." Or tell an alcoholic to "act normal" when he's three sheets to the wind.

Unless and until homosexual attraction is addressed as the mental disorder that it is, things will never get better for them.
58 posted on 09/10/2008 7:53:22 PM PDT by Antoninus (McCain/Palin -- The winning ticket!)
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To: DoughtyOne
The segment of homosexuals who live long term monogamous relationships, is not living the lifestyle this guy describes.

That type is as rare as hen's teeth. If you think you know some, you don't know them well enough.

The Truth About the Homosexual Rights Movement (Caution, graphic contents)
59 posted on 09/10/2008 8:00:53 PM PDT by Antoninus (McCain/Palin -- The winning ticket!)
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To: Clemenza
I am the farthest thing from a gay basher, but this filmmaker has hit the nail on the head.

Unfortunately, what the filmmaker suggests--somehow divorcing homosexuality from narcissism, psychological immaturity, nihilism and self destructive behavior is impossible.

May as well ask them to give up sodomy.
60 posted on 09/10/2008 8:04:08 PM PDT by Antoninus (McCain/Palin -- The winning ticket!)
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