Posted on 09/11/2008 9:55:10 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
Sept 10, 2008 — Astrobiologist David Deamer believes that life can spontaneously emerge without design, but he thinks lay people are too uneducated to understand how this is possible, so he gives them the watered-down version of Darwin’s natural selection instead, which he knows is inadequate to explain the complexity of life. That’s what he seemed to be telling reporter Susan Mazur in an interview for the Scoop (New Zealand). Is the lay public really too dense for the deeper knowledge of how evolution works?...
(Excerpt) Read more at creationsafaris.com ...
“Allow me to use your cookie analogy. Let us say that you are looking straight up at the Sun and it is raining chocolate chip cookies at the speed of light. Now let us also say that at the exact instant that you look up, the Sun starts emitting oatmeal cookies. So the question becomes how long will it be before you start seeing oatmeal cookies and how far will the earth have rotated in that time? The answer is that it will take about 8.3 minutes before you start seeing oatmeal cookies and the earth will have rotated a little over 2 degrees in that time frame.” [excerpt]Correct so far....
“In other words from your perspective (when and where you see the Sun) there is an 8.3 minute lag and because you are standing on a moving earth you are seeing the Sun not where it actually is but where it was 8.3 minutes ago. If you stopped the Earth from rotating or started flying West as fast as the earth rotates then the apparent position and actual position of the Sun would be the same.” [excerpt]Not scientifically accurate.
“What kind of skills do you have?” [excerpt]Aside from whats listed on my FR page, I administrate a home Linux server and annoy Evo's and Atheists (and the occasional Catholic) here of FR.
“Hmm, let me give you another example that may help. Let us be riding on two separate rockets in outer space. The rockets are accelerating at identical acceleration so that we are staying perpendicular to each other. Now lets say that you pull out a hose and aim a continuous stream of water directly at me. Will I ever get wet?” [excerpt]If the water stream is exiting the nozzle at C × 0.9, the water will hit you unless the rockets accelerate to much.(Not going to try to do the math right now.)
You do?“The two body example is a good one. If one is completely stationary, its optical image will be aligned with is gravitation pull.“Why should I? I agree. ” [excerpt]
Viewing the orbiting planet from the stationary planet will cause the optical image of the orbiting planet to lag its gravitational pull.
You have yet to provide a scientific source that says otherwise.”
“By definition of course there is a difference, but it is the same difference between accelerating at one G or being in the Earths gravitational field. The result is the same, it is a distinction without a difference.” [excerpt]Your wrong.
Otherwise we are just going around in circles and I try to avoid a gerbil impersonation.
“Yes that would make you a heretic. Would you be willing to die for that belief? That Catholics aren't Christians?” [excerpt]Actually, I said not all Christians were Catholics.
When Pluto is at 6.8 light hours away, and I look up at night and see it straight overhead, at the instant I see it from my position on earth, how far will it be displaced in degrees from its actual position? Will it be about 102 degrees displaced? Yes or no?Now if you would rather me answer a different one of your posts then I listed above as part of the deal, then just tell me which one. I'm not too picky - I just want to be sure that the question of yours that I answer in trade is the one you want answered!
If there was a reasonably stationary luminous planet 12 light hours away, where would it appear as compared to where it was at any given instant to an observer on the earth? How many degrees displaced? or would it be about 180 degrees displaced? Yes or no?
Not everybody, just the indoctrinated and those that don’t know better or, not yet fully indoctrinated. Even those partially indoctrinated, but not so far gone they can’t see the light.
I can remember going to school and hearing professors spew their muck and realize right off the bat they were full of it, but not every kid did or was interested in the truth at that particular moment.
Repeat the lie often enough and it’ll be accepted as truth.
Christianity is NEW Testament.
So he didn’t know of any NEW TEstament scriptures that vindicated the Pope’s actions.
Got it.
While I want to assume the best of all our fellow FReinds,
that would not surprise me. There aren't many post-FDR scholars like Alan Keyes and Mark Levin who can remain rock-ribbed after being steeped in the modern college experience.
I once swapped posts with a college grad who said, “I got along well with my professors.”
I responded, “Your lucky. Some professors insist that you must attend in the nude if you want an A.”
“I had a professor like that. So I stripped down.”
No wonder that student got along well, right?
Before the virtual blood sacrifice of being pro-abortion is paid, the person must first wish that there are too many worthless people in the world. There are many reasons why someone might draw that conclusion. One is by assuming that we are animals who respond to our sexual impulses instinctively.
Let me get this straight. When you were in school, the professors basically told you that all scientists are atheists?
As for the creds of Behe’s claims, there was the evolutionary biologist, Tom-Cavalier-Smith, and Yale molecular biologist, Robert Dorit. They both agreed [grudgingly] that Behe had a point. I guess they’re both ‘too dumb to understand evolution’ too.
Jerry Coyne is another one. He’s an evolutionary biologist [University of Chicago]. He said, “There is no doubt that the pathways described by Behe are dauntingly complex, and their evolution will be hard to unravel ... [W]e may forever be unable to envisage the first proto-pathways.”
Yep, I guess he’s ‘too dumb to understand evolution’ although he believes in it and describes intelligent design as ‘nuts’.
Here’s a fellow who isn’t too dumb to believe in evolution, but he admits that he’s too dumb to refute Behe— Robert Pennock [evolutionist]. “I have not addressed the biochemical details of his real examples, but as we have noted, the evidence is not yet in on those questions.”
Coulter writes: “The evidence isn’t in? According to Behe, many of the biochemical systems he cited ‘have been well understood for 40 years’.”
There are others Coulter quotes in ‘Godless’, authorities who shook up the Evolutionists. I’ll get to them another day. But clearly, it’s not DUMB to question evolution. I’m not convinced what our origin is myself. I’ve reached a point in my life to know enough to know that no one really knows. And frankly, I don’t care. Therefore — FREEDOM!
There are Amish children who believe the earth is flat, and the odds are that most of them will turn out better than most of the kids in Detroit. Most of them will turn out better than your average politician.
God willing, when I have kids of my own, they won’t be raised like the Amish, nor will they be educated in public schools. I don’t want kids until I can afford to have them educated properly. And there’s a very real possibility that my line could end when I die [mostly due to my prioritizing but ... ] thanks in large part to the high taxes needed to indoctrinate children in public schools. I suppose that some evolutionists will be very happy to know that there might not be an Arthur March Junior around to torture them.
Let me see.... Amish children who are raised to be financially independent, work hard, not take handouts from the government, help their neighbors in need, forgive their enemies (like when he shoots up a school house full of girls who he planned on torturing and raping),....
So what if they believe the earth is flat?
I'd rather have them as neighbors than your average public school educated evolution believing thug.
Gee, he has his *scientific* beliefs right. At least we don't have to worry about him putting us back in the Dark Ages or establishing that dreaded theocracy...
Thank you, my job is done : )
I am sure that Giordano Bruno didn't, but the Pope and his boys wrote the New Testament so they must have had some idea that what they were doing was in accordance with it.
Well put.
I’d rather have an “ignorant Christian” family of good character living in my neighborhood
than to live around a bunch of arrogant, “well educated”, narcissistic liberal atheists.
And YES, there IS a correlation between character and worldview.
No.
If you will define all of the parameters I asked you to, I will answer your question. Otherwise it is a waste of my time.
You don't believe the OLD Testament?
Behe is a godless evolutionist that believes we should teach our school children that the Intelligent Designer is dead.
Behe believes that man evolved over hundreds of millions of years from simple organisms (common descent).
It sure is a good thing that Bible reading and prayer were removed from the public school system, isn’t it?
Some kid might actually hear *gasp* SCRIPTURE; might even think that there was a God that he’s accountable to....
Who knows just where that sort of thing could lead...
The horrors....
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