Figure in Rosenberg Case Admits Spying for Soviets

New York Times ^ | 11 Sep 2008 | Sam Roberts

[RKV]

Ever since he was tried and convicted with Julius and Ethel Rosenberg on espionage charges in 1951, Morton Sobell has maintained his innocence.

A U.S. Marshal escorted Morton Sobell, left, to Federal Court in New York in March of 1951.

Until now. In an interview on Thursday, Mr. Sobell, who served nearly 19 years in Alcatraz and other federal prisons, admitted for the first time that he had been a Soviet spy. And he implicated his fellow defendant, Julius Rosenberg, in a conspiracy that delivered to the Soviets vital classified military information and what the American government claimed was the secret to the atomic bomb.

[RKV]

“Before my time, but I believe that all right-thinking people believed the Rosenbergs innocent back then. I wonder what other beliefs, widely shared among right-thinking people today, will turn out to be similarly wrong in 50 years?”

Glenn Reynolds

[PeterFinn]

No worries. The left will still proclaim the innocence of the Rosenbergs no matter how much evidence and testimony outlines their guilt.

[NavVet]

At the time, most people thought they were guilty; although they did, and still do, have a vocal cheerleading section on the left. I think the ABA did a mock re-trial and they were aquitted.

[dfwgator]

Good, now give him the same treatment the Rosenbergs got.

[VOA]

Figure in Rosenberg Case Admits Spying for Soviets

But, but, but...
The Rosenburgs were innocents executed by insane McCarthyite fascists...

Well, that's what the MSM and academia have tried to tell me
for FREAKIN' DECADES!!!

[DoughtyOne]

The NYT has probably spent the last 60 years defending the Rosenbergs. Most leftists do. I hope that is the top part of a blue jumpsuit, and that this guy is still in prison.

[Harry Wurzbach]

No surprise. Well, if you have had a clue.

[RKV]

I had that thought.

[Zeppo]

It must suck even more than usual to be a leftist these days, with all of the “say it ain’t so, Joe” moments that are being dished up for them, huh...

[okie01]

First, Alger Hiss.

Then, Sacco and Vanzetti.

Now, Martin Sobell and the Rosenbergs.

The hits on the left just keep on coming.

Will Algore be unmasked as a doofus next...???

[robomatik]

morris childs comes to mind.

[ETL]

And when will the New York Times admit the truth about their coverup of Stalin's Ukraine famine?

Ukraine Famine - 1932-1933 - 7,000,000 Deaths

Joseph Stalin, leader of the Soviet Union, set in motion events designed to cause a famine in the Ukraine to destroy the people there seeking independence from his rule. As a result, an estimated 7,000,000 persons perished in this farming area, known as the breadbasket of Europe, with the people deprived of the food they had grown with their own hands.

http://www.unitedhumanrights.org/Genocide/Ukraine_famine.htm

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Prize Specimen
The campaign to revoke Walter Duranty’s Pulitzer
http://www.nationalreview.com/stuttaford/stuttaford050703.asp

[robomatik]

re: post #2

[RKV]

And the c********r at the NYT has the nerve to put our faces in this pile of d*****t today of all days. I’d very much like to remove the smile from the face of that traitor, and his willing enablers in the M$M.

[RKV]

Harry Dexter White too.

[VOA]

Figure in Rosenberg Case Admits Spying for Soviets

Nice to see one of the guilty confirm the truth.
That plenty of liberals deny to this day.

This is almost as pleasant a suprise as to hear even PBS admit
that yes, McCarthy was right...there were a sh-t-load of Soviet
spies and sympathizers in the US government (even if he may have
not done a good job on "target identification").
That was nicely documented in NOVA's "Secrets, Lies and Atomic Spies"
that came out at least six-seven years ago.

[Reagan Man]

Commie, pinko, fag!

[Luke21]

My late father was in the marine corps honor guard that carried Joe McCarthy’s casket. He was a marine recruiter in Northeastern Wisconsin.

At the funeral, Mrs. McCarthy came to him and said, “Sergeant, these people from the press are saying they are going to spit on his casket.” Dad said, “Ma’am, I will draw my sword if any of them try.” God rest you, Dad.

[VOA]

And when will the New York Times admit the truth about their coverup
of Stalin's Ukraine famine?

No apology will be forthcoming.
Because Pinch and all the perverts at the NY Times think Stalin
was just ahead of his times.

By reducing the carbon footprint of the Ukrainians.
(/sarc...I won't be suprised if the NY Times put that sort
of apologetics forward for the memory of their beloved Uncle Joe Stalin.)

[muawiyah]

Somehow, though, Senator McCarthy failed to identify the Soviet espionage facilitators at the New York Times.

[randomhero97]

That’s awesome.

[RKV]

Old "Sparky"

[Navy Patriot]

Good, now give him the same treatment the Rosenbergs got.

Nah, start at zero and turn up the voltage very slowly.

[VOA]

Somehow, though, Senator McCarthy failed to identify the Soviet
espionage facilitators at the New York Times.

Maybe he was unable to do that.
Due to "defense saturation" as he was attacked from many quarters
at once?

Sen. McCarthy wasn't perfect...but he sure took plenty of blows
before being knocked out of the game.
As well as some self-inflicted wounds.

[robomatik]

unlike others mentioned on this thread, morris childs was an American hero. while my father grew up hating the bastard who was leader of the cpusa, he was actually an f.b.i. informant. he was awarded the order of lenin after partially amputating one of his fingers and refusing pain medication while secretly in moscow. what the duma wasn’t aware of was that he amputated his finger while photographing kremlin documents and manipulating a safe in the kremlin, for the f.b.i. i’m glad that my father has lived long enough to recognize that someone he hated for decades was actually an American hero.

[Enchante]

How many good Americans have been spit upon by rabid leftists over the years because it was obvious that Julius Rosenberg was guilty and the left just couldn’t allow the public to know that??? For that matter, how many good Americans have been spit upon through the years for supporting Richard Nixon against Alger Hiss, when all politically correct leftists knew that Hiss would have to be defended to the end of time in order to protect the leftist project in America?

[RKV]

Venona - http://www.nsa.gov/publications/publi00039.cfm

[ETL]

The Rosenberg File: Second Edition (Paperback)
by Ronald Radosh (Author), Joyce Milton (Author)
"In traditional warfare, espionage is a sideshow played out against the larger drama of troop movements, campaign strategy, and battles..." (more)
http://www.amazon.com/Rosenberg-File-Second-Ronald-Radosh/dp/0300072058

[ETL]

And the c********r at the NYT has the nerve to put our faces in this pile of d*****t today of all days

From Sept 11, 2001, New York Times article/interview with Obama associate and friend, William/Bill Ayers.
Article title: "No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen"

"During his fugitive years, Mr. Ayers said, he lived in 15 states, taking names of dead babies in cemeteries who were born in the same year as he. He describes the typical safe house: there were usually books by Malcolm X and Ho Chi Minh, and Che Guevara's picture in the bedroom; fermented Vietnamese fish sauce in the refrigerator, and live sourdough starter donated by a Native American that was reputed to have passed from hand to hand over a century."

(snip)

"Mr. Ayers, who in 1970 was said to have summed up the Weatherman philosophy as:

'Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that's where it's really at,' is today distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago.

New York Times, September 11, 2001: "No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen"
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1

Allies in War
By David Horowitz
FrontPageMagazine.com | Monday, September 17, 2001:

ON THE MORNING OF THE ATTACKS on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, along with a million other readers of the New York Times including many who would never be able to read the paper again, I opened its pages to be confronted by a color photo showing a middle-aged couple holding hands and affecting a defiant look at the camera. The article was headlined in an irony that could not have been more poignant, "No Regrets For A Love Of Explosives."

The couple pictured were Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, former leaders of the 1960s’ Weather Underground, America’s first terrorist cult. One of their bombing targets, as it happened, was the Pentagon.

"I don’t regret setting bombs," Ayers was quoted in the opening line of the Times profile; "I feel we didn’t do enough."

In 1969, Ayers and his wife convened a "War Council" in Flint Michigan, whose purpose was to launch a military front inside the United States with the purpose of helping Third World revolutionaries conquer and destroy it.

Taking charge of the podium, dressed in high-heeled boots and a leather mini-skirt – her signature uniform – Dorhn incited the assembled radicals to join the war against "Amerikkka" and create chaos and destruction in the "belly of the beast."

Her voice rising to a fevered pitch, Dohrn raised three fingers in a "fork salute" to mass murderer Charles Manson whom she proposed as a symbol to her troops. Referring to the helpless victims of the Manson Family as the "Tate Eight" (the most famous was actress Sharon Tate) Dohrn shouted:

"Dig It. First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, they even shoved a fork into a victim’s stomach! Wild!"

(big snip)

Today William Ayers is not merely an author favored by the New York Times, but a Distinguished Professor of Education at the University of Illinois, Chicago.

His Lady Macbeth [Bernardine Dohrn] is not merely a lawyer, but a member of the American Bar Association’s governing elite, as well as the director of Northwestern University’s Children and Family Justice Center.
[it's true! see: http://www.law.northwestern.edu/faculty/profiles/BernardineDohrn/]

Article: Allies in War -by David Horowitz
FrontPageMagazine.com | Monday, September 17, 2001
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=63512670-BF7C-42A0-B41D-5D0FB9E09C09

From David Horowitz's FrontPageMag.com/DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
"FBI files from 1976, recently made public under the Freedom of Information Act, confirm the connections between Weatherman, Havana, and Moscow. Weatherman leaders like Mark Rudd traveled illegally to Havana in 1968 to engage in terrorist training. There, camps set up by Soviet KGB Colonel Vadim Kotchergine were educating Westerners both in Marxist philosophy and urban warfare."
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6808

"Their founding document [the Weather Underground's] called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements[1] to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism."..."-Berger, Dan (2006). Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity. AK Press, 95.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_Underground#cite_ref-Berger_0-0

[muawiyah]

The Leftwingtards attempted to use even Joe's "pee breaks" as a coverup for their own guilt.

With this admission Martin Sobel has made a down payment on a less heated section of Hell, but he's still going there.

He's gotta' give up the facilitators ~ name the names ~ Hale & Dorr, Joseph Welch, their running dog lackeys in the Senate and on the Senate staff.

Then he might get a glimpse of a Heavenly cloud in between eternal punishment, but not too often.

[FredZarguna]

This wasn't even breaking news in 1951. The only people who thought the Rosenbergs, Hiss, or any of the people fingered by Elizabeth Bentley were innocent were the same kind of people who maintain that there's still some question about the authenticity of Dan Rather/Mary Mapes' forgeries.

Soon he will join his erstwhile compatriots in Dante's lowest circle: the one reserved for betrayal. Via con Diablo.

[Clioman]

Or Ted Hall?

[GreyFriar]

At long last the truth comes out -—and will be ignored by all of the leftists.

[laconic]

One of the “Tate Eight” whose murders the Red Witch Bernadine Dohrn lauded was an eight-month old fetus. Sharon Tate begged for her baby’s life; one of the Manson gang responded, “You’ll get no sympathy from me, bitch” and then knifed her, multiple gruesome times, to death. As far as them advocating killing the rich, I don’t know what little mr. ayers thinks of his own father, Tom Ayers, who ran Commonwealth Edison and apparently arranged to have his buds and handservants in the Chicago political, financial and country club elite arrange highly placed jobs for his ingrate son and the Red Witch.

[VOA]

“
Or Ted Hall?
“

IIRC, near the end of NOVA’s “Secrets, Lies and Atomic Spies”,
one of Ted Hall’s former colleagues give his ideas about what
should have happened to Ted Hall due to his treason.
(Especially as the FBI decided not to prosecute him in order to
not compromise their investigations of other Soviet agents).

The old guy really blasted out that Hall was still technically
part of the US Military, so he should have been called back
to active duty, tried by a quiet military tribunal, and promptly shot.

I think this bit of refreshing common sense (and after-the-fact
wishful thinking) came from Sam Cohen, inventor of the neutron bomb.

For ref:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Alvin_Hall

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Cohen

[Jim Noble]

Whom can't we see, Che and Obama?

Ayers, Dohrn, and Klonsky.

[ETL]

The hits on the left just keep on coming. Will Algore be unmasked as a doofus next...???

CIA official: Gore compromised by secret past
Says Russia has dossiers on VP's former drug use, [Armand] Hammer connection..."
October 16, 2000

By Charles C. Thompson II and Tony Hays

Editor's note: The following report on Vice President Al Gore's alleged past drug use, as well as his deep connections with Soviet operative Armand Hammer, was researched and written by native Tennessee reporters Charles C. Thompson II and Tony Hays. Thompson is a long-time veteran of network news, having been a founding producer of ABC's "20/20," as well as Mike Wallace's producer at CBS's "60 Minutes."

Yahoo search results for "armand hammer" + "gore":
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=%22armand+hammer%22%22gore%22&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz2

[BuffaloJack]

I wonder if he’ll be tapped to replace Biden?
He certainly has the proper credentials to be O’s running mate.

[icwhatudo]

Many reviews of his book on Amazon talk about him being innocent and how he was framed yada yada yada

Feel free to add some comments (or a simple simpsons HA/HA) here on his book:

http://www.amazon.com/Doing-Time-Morton-Sobell/dp/1883869536

[ETL]

One of the “Tate Eight” whose murders the Red Witch Bernadine Dohrn lauded was an eight-month old fetus. Sharon Tate begged for her baby’s life; one of the Manson gang responded, “You’ll get no sympathy from me, bitch” and then knifed her, multiple gruesome times, to death.

I know. I have that up on my FR Profile/Home page.

Here's what I have...

Confession (Manson Family)

When they got in the house, Susan [Atkins] said that in the living room there was a man on the couch and a woman on the chair reading. Then some of Susan's group stayed in the living room, while Susan went into the bedroom where Sharon was sitting on the bed talking to Jay Sebring. They quickly put nooses over Sharon and Jay's heads so that if they moved they would choke.

Frykowski ran for the door. "He was full of blood," she said and claimed that she had stabbed him three or four times. "He was bleeding and he ran to the front part, and would you believe that he was there hollering 'Help, help, somebody please help me,' and nobody came? Then we finished him off."

"Sharon was the last to die," Susan said with a laugh as she described how Sharon was begging her, " Please don't kill me. Please don't kill me. I don't want to die. I want to live. I want to have my baby. I want to have my baby."

Susan said she just looked at Sharon straight in the eye and said, "Look, bitch, I don't care about you. I don't care if you're going to have a baby. You had better be ready. You're going to die and I don't feel anything about it...In a few minutes I killed her."

Susan said she saw that there was Sharon's blood on her hand and she tasted it. "Wow, what a trip! To taste death, and yet give life."

Source: http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial_killers/notorious/manson/confess_4.html

"Dig It. First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, they even shoved a fork into a victim’s stomach! Wild!"
-Weather Underground leader and wife of Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn

The Center for Public Intellectuals & The University of Illinois-Chicago (UIC)
April 19th-20th, 2002, Conference
[Participants include: William/Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, Sen Barack Obama]
http://www.uic.edu/classes/las/las400/conferencealt.htm

[MissEdie]

You should be proud of your Dad. I am.

[ballplayer]

READ “Witness” by Whitaker Chambers

[tiredoflurking]

Nice to see one of the guilty confirm the truth. That plenty of liberals deny to this day. This is almost as pleasant a suprise as to hear even PBS admit that yes, McCarthy was right...there were a sh-t-load of Soviet spies and sympathizers in the US government (even if he may have not done a good job on "target identification"). That was nicely documented in NOVA's "Secrets, Lies and Atomic Spies" that came out at least six-seven years ago.

Oh, I wish I had seen that. I can remember in elementary school we learned about the Rosenbergs, and that was when they took the opportunity to teach us the word "scapegoat." Think there was a little bias there? I seem to recall being taught that they were just being persecuted because they were Jewish. It was only a few years ago that I learned otherwise, and I think it may have been because of this forum.

[TheWasteLand]

Amazing book. One of those books that I wish everyone would read.

[zot]

Beautiful response by your Dad.

[ETL]

"Whom can't we see, Che and Obama?"

Ayers, Dohrn, and Klonsky.

Nor Reverend Wright, Frank Marshall Davis, Louis Farrakhan...

For lots of info on all the ObamaRat-commie connections, please visit my newly revised FR Profile/Home page.
Everything there is linked directly to its source.
Plus, I've added new within-page links which make is easy to hop around to various sections:
http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl

[zot]

Thanks for the ping. I don’t expect to see this in any of the old media.

[zot]

Thanks for the ping. I didn’t expect to see this in any of the old media.