Posted on 09/11/2008 3:45:45 PM PDT by RKV
Here’s the PBS Web site for “Secrets, Lies, and Atomic Spies.”
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/venona/
PBS also had a 4-part program called “Red Files” that included a part about the spies, “Secret Victories of the KBG.” Link to the program Web site, with transcripts and photos:
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Did you post a pic from the NY Times in comment# 1?
My grandmother worked at teh show factory that was robbed by Sacco and Vanzetti. She said the one of the witnesses that fingered them worked next to her in the accounting office and could not have seen anything.
I don’t think Sacco and Vinzetti ever admitted that they did it unless I missed something.
Not saying they didn’t do it, but, that they were anarchists did play into what happened.
yes
Apparently it has been removed.
As a Jew I am happy they were fried. I wish I could have pulled the switch.
Recently, Sinclair Lewis' private papers were released to the public. Whereupon, it was evident that Sacco and Vanzetti were guilty as sin.
As you know, Sinclair Lewis was a prominent left-wing author. He interviewed Sacco & Vanzetti when they were in prison and he sponsored their defense. He wrote commentaries arguing their innocence.
His private papers, however, revealed another story. In correspondence with fellow left-wingers, he described the left's investment in their case...and how they were, in fact, guilty. The rest of the world, though, should never be allowed to learn of this fact -- because it would damage the left's cause.
Sacco & Vanzetti stand next to Alger Hiss and the Rosenbergs as liberal icons who were, as the evidence proves, guilty.
It’s happened to me at least a couple of times. Now, I put the caption and credit as the name of the link. Then I open the pic in a new window.
Search on Yahoo, Google, etc. for “how to open a link in a new window,” if you don’t understand. I believe I can FReepmail the command.
McCarthy was a bit of an opportunist motivated by political ambition. The serious exposure of Communist infiltrators was done earlier by Elizabeth Bentley and Whittaker Chambers testifying to the FBI and HUAC.
“unlike others mentioned on this thread, morris childs was an American hero. while my father grew up hating the bastard who was leader of the cpusa, he was actually an f.b.i. informant. “
Gus Hall was the long-time head of the CPUSA. Morris Childs in 2nd spot wasn’t well known to the general public, but he was an intimate of the USSR leadership for decades. Probably our most valuable spy during the Cold War. President Reagan awarded both Morris Childs and his brother Jack the Medal of Freedom for their service to the United States.
William F. Buckley would put in a full latin phrase regarding the relationship, and the "do loop" ~ I'm not going to do so.
Onthe other hand, I'd like to note that the Leftwingtards of his day thought it was more important to attack Joe McCarthy than other people more involved in "naming the names".
Maybe that had to do something with the fact he had a vote in Congress as well as access to others who voted there.
Obviously Joe had less material than folks further down the food chain, but he had power, and the Commies then, and now, respect power ~ that's all they respect.
It's not too late for Sobel to name more names for us now that he's in the mood. And I don't care if they're in their 90s, ever since General Pinochet age has been no impediment to prosecution for crimes.
Gus Hall. Whose real name was Arvo Gustav Halberg.
Sacco’s relatives changed the family name.
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Gus Hall. Whose real name was Arvo Gustav Halberg.
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Easy to confuse the two “Halls”.
When the discussion of a perfidious citizen named “Hall” comes up
on FR...I do double check to make sure if it’s Gus or Ted.
Different birthdates, different dates of death.
Both were stinkers that should have gotten some time in the slammer
to reconsider their attempt to damage/ruin the USA.
Gus Hall was a Communist Party operative.
Theodore (Ted) Hall was a scientist that worked on The Manhattan
Project that passed secrets to the Soviets. He wasn’t prosecuted due
to secrecy concerns and not ruining other on-going investigations.
And he eventually fled with his spouse to England where he worked
in academia/research.
Gus Hall
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gus_Hall
Theodore (Ted) Hall
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Alvin_Hall
My point is that McCarthy wasn’t doing investigations that uncovered Communists. Someone asked why McCarthy hadn’t also exposed Communists in the press, assuming that he had been the one who had been exposing Communists in government.
The fact is that the exposure of Communist infiltration was the work of HUAC and the FBI, based largely on the testimony of Bentley and Chambers, who themselves had been cell members in DC.
McCarthy was a loose cannon who sought to co-opt the real issue of Communist infiltration for his own benefit. When he foolishly decided to accuse Eisenhower and the Army of Communist sympathies he ran out of allies.
Great posts to a great thread. This is the type of thread that first drew me in, but which seems, at least to me, to be a rare event in recent years.
Regards,
Thanks. I wasn’t familiar with Ted Hall, Theodore Alvin Holtzberg.
The folktale is that allegedly the "friends turned" when Welch asked his question about McCarthy's sense of shame. With Sobel's statements reported above it's pretty clear Welch didn't exactly have clean hands.
I really don't think McCarthy "ran out of friends". He simply discovered that all news stories run through a fixed cycle of existence and then one day simply die. You have to have a new story churning up out of the bowels to keep ahead of the problem.
Then there was John McCloy ~ never really identified as a Soviet spy or agent, the guy was involved in a number of situations that clearly had more benefit to Joe Stalin personally than to the United States.
Without going into them in detail, I'd suggest that Ike doesn't really escape the questions McCarthy was asking.
A loss of Eisenhower's support may simply have been a result of previous grooming by McCloy, or Ike's elemental stupidity.
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