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The "Bush Doctrine" - moonbat version
09/11/2008 | PhilosopherStones

Posted on 09/11/2008 7:38:57 PM PDT by PhilosopherStones

For those here who think Sarah flubbed the "Bush Doctrine" question, I would like to remind you what the moonbats and their MSM supporters think the Bush doctrine is:

1) Invade a sovereign country.
2) Kill 1 million innocent civilians
3) Do it based on what you know is a lie
, 4) Do it so that your oil cronies can take over the oil fields.

Sarah knew it was a trap (I watched ABC just to make sure - don't tell me I don't have a strong stomach!)

She responded by making Charlie clarify what he meant before she answered.

I thought she did fine for her first ambush interview.


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1 posted on 09/11/2008 7:38:57 PM PDT by PhilosopherStones
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To: PhilosopherStones

I think Charlie blew it. How can the MSM say she’s “on the Bush team” when she doesn’t even know what the “Bush Doctrine” is?


2 posted on 09/11/2008 7:43:11 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ("I don't know of a single thing Obama has done except talk and write". -- Newt Gingrich)
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To: PhilosopherStones

Watching Gibson, he is POS my God, another liberal rat.

This should be known as the “Old Pervert” interview.


3 posted on 09/11/2008 7:45:49 PM PDT by Porterville (Mac Daddy Daddy Mac!!!!! 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: PhilosopherStones

Watching Gibson, he is POS my God, another liberal rat.

This should be known as the “Old Pervert” interview.


4 posted on 09/11/2008 7:45:53 PM PDT by Porterville (Mac Daddy Daddy Mac!!!!! 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: PhilosopherStones

Watching Gibson, he is POS my God, another liberal rat.

This should be known as the “Old Pervert” interview.


5 posted on 09/11/2008 7:45:54 PM PDT by Porterville (Mac Daddy Daddy Mac!!!!! 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: FrdmLvr

Wouldn’t it be funny if Bush’a approval rating went up to say maybe close to 40% right around the election time. That would mess up Obama.


6 posted on 09/11/2008 7:46:56 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule (What does september mean to me? hockey pre-season. Yes!)
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To: FrdmLvr
Actually, David Gergan on CNN, said that almost no one knows what the Bush Doctrine is. CNN gave Mrs. Palin a fairly good score.
7 posted on 09/11/2008 7:47:52 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Read my lipstick")
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To: PhilosopherStones

We need to be a bit smarter about this whole thing.

Sarah Palin did not ask Charlie for clarification because she did not know. She knew that the Bush doctrine is a loaded term. She shrewdly asked Charlie to unpack it. He of course would not because he wants to use the varied expectations of the term against Palin.

She proceeded with a differentiated answer that defended the principals of the policy without adhering to its specifics. That maintains the campaign image of change while not severely undermining the President.

It was quite shrewd on her part. The obvious game plan of Gibson and ABC was to cast her as a warmonger.

I think he failed to get that done effectively.


8 posted on 09/11/2008 7:48:57 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: PhilosopherStones

from everything I have read - it looks like Palin did better than “Charlie”


9 posted on 09/11/2008 7:51:50 PM PDT by rface
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To: PhilosopherStones

From a lefty blog:

TalkLeft: “Indeed, her eventual answer to the question is extremely sensible ... and smart politics. She did not accept the premise of Gibson’s question and then gave a sensible answer to the question.” Also, a suggestion that fellow lefty blogs aren’t helping the side by engaging in over-the-top responses, a piece of excellent advice that is sure to be ignored.

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/9/11/20922/5391


10 posted on 09/11/2008 7:52:49 PM PDT by flyfree (Biden is no Palin and Obama is no McCain)
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To: lonestar67

Absolutely correct (in my, somewhat biased, opinion).


11 posted on 09/11/2008 7:54:21 PM PDT by PhilosopherStones
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To: PhilosopherStones
Boston.com THIS STORY HAS BEEN FORMATTED FOR EASY PRINTING
JEFF JACOBY

Death of the Bush Doctrine

THE Bush Doctrine - born on Sept. 20, 2001, when President Bush bluntly warned the sponsors of violent jihad: "You are either with us, or you are with the terrorists" - is dead. Its demise was announced by Condoleezza Rice last Friday.

The secretary of state was speaking to reporters aboard Air Force One en route with the president to Kuwait from Israel. She was explaining why the administration had abandoned the most fundamental condition of its support for Palestinian statehood - an end to Palestinian terror. Rice's explanation, recounted here by The Washington Times, was as striking for its candor as for its moral blindness:

"The 'road map' for peace, conceived in 2002 by Mr. Bush, had become a hindrance to the peace process, because the first requirement was that the Palestinians stop terrorist attacks. As a result, every time there was a terrorist bombing, the peace process fell apart and went back to square one. Neither side ever began discussing the 'core issues': the freezing of Israeli settlements in the West Bank, the right of Palestinian refugees to return, the outline of Israel's border, and the future of Jerusalem.

"The reason that we haven't really been able to move forward on the peace process for a number of years is that we were stuck in the sequentiality of the road map. So you had to do the first phase of the road map before you moved on to the third phase of the road map, which was the actual negotiations of final status," Rice said. . . . What the US-hosted November peace summit in Annapolis did was "break that tight sequentiality. . . You don't want people to get hung up on settlement activity or the fact that the Palestinians haven't fully been able to deal with the terrorist infrastructure. . ."

Thus the president who once insisted that a "Palestinian state will never be created by terror" now insists that a Palestinian state be created regardless of terror. Once the Bush administration championed a "road map" whose first and foremost requirement was that the Palestinians "declare an unequivocal end to violence and terrorism" and shut down "all official . . . incitement against Israel." Now the administration says that Palestinian terrorism and incitement are nothing "to get hung up on."

Whatever happened to the moral clarity that informed the president's worldview in the wake of 9/11? Whatever happened to the conviction that was at the core of the Bush Doctrine: that terrorists must be anathematized and defeated, and the fever-swamps that breed them drained and detoxified?

Bush's support for the creation of a Palestinian state was always misguided - rarely has a society shown itself less suited for sovereignty - but at least he made it clear that American support came at a stiff price: "The United States will not support the establishment of a Palestinian state," Bush said in his landmark June 2002 speech on the Israeli-Arab conflict, "until its leaders engage in a sustained fight against the terrorists and dismantle their infrastructure." He reinforced that condition two years later, confirming in a letter to Ariel Sharon that "the Palestinian leadership must act decisively against terror, including sustained, targeted, and effective operations to stop terrorism and dismantle terrorist capabilities and infrastructure."

Now that policy has gone by the boards, replaced by one less focused on achieving peace than on maintaining a "peace process." No doubt it is difficult, as Rice says, to "move forward on the peace process" when the Palestinian Authority glorifies suicide bombers and encourages a murderous goal of eliminating the Jewish state. If the Bush Doctrine - "with us or with the terrorists" - were still in force, the peace process would be shelved. The administration would be treating the Palestinians as pariahs, allowing them no assistance of any kind, much less movement toward statehood, so long as their encouragement of terrorism persisted.

But it is the Bush Doctrine that has been shelved. In its hunger for Arab support against Iran - and perhaps in a quest for a historic "legacy" - the administration has dropped "with us or with the terrorists." It is hellbent instead on bestowing statehood upon a regime that stands unequivocally with the terrorists. "Frankly, it's time for the establishment of a Palestinian state," Rice says.

When George W. Bush succeeded Bill Clinton, he was determined not to replicate his predecessor's blunders in the Middle East, a determination that intensified after 9/11. Yet now he too has succumbed to the messianism that leads US presidents to imagine they can resolve the Arab-Israeli conflict. Clinton's legacy in this arena was the second intifada, which drenched the region in blood. To what fresh hell will Bush's diplomacy lead?

Jeff Jacoby's e-mail address is jacoby@globe.com. 

© Copyright The New York Times Company
 

12 posted on 09/11/2008 7:55:16 PM PDT by Notwithstanding (Obama/Biden: the "O" stands for Zero Executive Experience & Zero Accomplishments)
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Sarah knew it was a trap (I watched ABC just to make sure - don't tell me I don't have a strong stomach!)
She responded by making Charlie clarify what he meant before she answered.

Exactly. I think she did the right thing by pressing Charlie Gibson to define his view as to exactly what the Bush Doctrine entails, so she could respond to his explaination.

I thought she was good on her feet to back him into the wall this way. And everyone should understand exactly what question she was answering.

13 posted on 09/11/2008 7:58:16 PM PDT by Iowa Granny (Hi Sweetie!!!!! Are you Bitter???)
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To: PhilosopherStones
The look on her face in response to the question was priceless. The little grin seemed to say “I know what you are up to Charlie”.
14 posted on 09/11/2008 8:00:17 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( Sarah Palin is America's Margaret Thatcher; Obama is America's George Galloway.)
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To: PhilosopherStones

In the excerpts I saw, Charlie Gibson is the one who appears to be rattled.


15 posted on 09/11/2008 8:00:22 PM PDT by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us.")
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Sarah knew it was a trap (I watched ABC just to make sure - don't tell me I don't have a strong stomach!) She responded by making Charlie clarify what he meant before she answered.

That was great. It caught Gibson by surprise. It flustered him and he had to ask her what SHE thought the Bush doctrine was. She said..."His word view". But the way she said it was great. Like "His world view you idiot. Now ask me a specific question.".

16 posted on 09/11/2008 8:00:53 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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Two Democratic talking points will be “Sarah Palin doesn’t even know what the Bush Doctrine is and she wants to be Vice President?” and “She’s a warmonger, ready to send an already streached thin military into Georgia to fight Russia.”

In reality, I think she knew what she was doing with the “Bush Doctrine” question. She knew it was a loaded questionand turned it back on Gibson.

As far as the Russia question, she was right. If Georgia was in NATO, we’d have to send troops to uphold our end of the treaty. But she is also right that if Georgia was in NATO, Russia never would have gone in there.

She did just fine. She handled that condencending prick Gibson nicely.


17 posted on 09/11/2008 8:02:34 PM PDT by GeeMoney (Hey Obama, it's God BLESS America!)
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I think his goal was to get a sound bite the Dems could use. He failed on that account as well.
18 posted on 09/11/2008 8:02:40 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( Sarah Palin is America's Margaret Thatcher; Obama is America's George Galloway.)
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To: GeeMoney

Plus, as far as I can tell, both Obambi and “Hair Plugs” have both supported Georgian/Ukranian entry into NATO, so that’s a no-win for the “Annointed One”.


19 posted on 09/11/2008 8:06:39 PM PDT by PhilosopherStones
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To: unspun

I thought so too. What got me about it was as soon as he asked a question, he was jiggling his hands and fidgeting. He seemed very uncomfortable to me.

Sarah did fine.


20 posted on 09/11/2008 8:07:53 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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