Posted on 09/11/2008 10:47:56 PM PDT by 1955Ford
Jimmy Kimmel's summary of the incident
What the media is doing is making the comment the issue, and not the context.
From the times I have heard it, it is a pretty rural/old timey saying. Obama has lived in Hawaii and Chicago (not exactly rural Illinois) and then came to Washington, so where did he pick up this slogan?
It is a common expression, but Obama knew and his core audience KNEW what he was referring to. Couple the PIG comment (referring to Palin) with the “old FISH” comment that was meant to refer to McCain and voila... classic smear... coming from the messiah of CHANGE!!!
He said it ‘accidentally on purpose.’ It was meant to be a shot, but he had no idea the reaction it would elicit, then cries ‘poor me, everybody’s picking on me.’
He should grow up or get out of the race. Obama’s biggest problem (besides his ideology imo) is that he allowed his ego to push him into this race before his time. He succeeded in snatching the nomination from the ‘inevitable’ candidate. But now he has to face a real national election, not primaries with far left voters.
Technically, Obama himself has admitted that he was referring to Palin.
The only thing is - Obama claims that Palin was the lipstick in his reference, not the pig.
The point is that whether one splits hairs in this way or not, the reference, which went on to speak of the smell of rotten fish (barracuda?) was loaded with innuendo and was dangerously subject to multiple interpretations. It leads me to question the judgement and character of the man who spoke the words - if any more evidence were necessary.
I agree...but I can only imagine that if someone, talking about Obama, uttered the phrase "Calling a spade a spade" and then had the whole audience laughing...they would be roasted by the media.
Speaking of pigs, is he still running around with Sarah Silverman?
Bum rap or not, political statements are up for grabs. If it truly was a bum rap, and they fumbled the reply, it's too damn bad.
The context that Hussein used it in clearly insinuated that Sarah Palin was being referred to as the ‘pig’ with lipstick, both because she had just recently referred to herself as a pit bull with lipstick, and because the Democrat Party website had just put up a graphic called ‘Republican Pig with Lipstick’, the pig having glasses and wearing a necklace. The inference was obvious and wasn’t missed by Democrats, that is for sure.
>if someone, talking about Obama, uttered the
>phrase “Calling a spade a spade”
You mean like Mrs. Bill Clinton saying he hasn’t done the spadework?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1949908/posts
Boy you’re not kidding. The media didn’t touch on the smelly fish interpretation that could have been a lot less unflattering to Palin.
I still don’t understand why we didn’t see the video on that, or that we don’t hear more about that.
You hit the nail on the head. He’s got his own history to live down on this.
If nothing else, he should have been bright enough to figure out that he shouldn’t have gone anywhere close to there based upon the perception that he disses women.
I guess they don’t teach common sense at Harvard.
Since the comments he spoke just before the ‘lipstick/pig’ remark were lifted directly from a political cartoon, I believe that whole narrative was scipted. There are blogs on mybarackobama.com titled ‘Lipstick on a Pig’ - all written well before Tuesday. Monday morning, Bob Beckell used a ‘pig’ reference regarding Palin on ‘Fox and Friends’. On Tuesday, Biden said something at a campaign stop to the effect of ‘you can’t put lipstick on it’. A few hours later, Obama used the term after making comments that were obviously plagarized and memorized. The ‘lipstick/pig’ thing was a common theme in the Obamasphere before he ever uttered the words. There’s no way that was an ‘off the cuff’ remark.
“He said it ‘accidentally on purpose.’”
Like when he gave Hillary the bird.
See those broad smiles from democrats?
Either it was an intentional poorly veiled slam on Palin, or Obama is utterly clueless.
The timing to use that expression was incredibly poor.
A day before Palins speech and massively publicized lipstick joke, those democrats would not have been smiling broadly after he used that expression.
It's commonly used. Shortly after?
well, you see it makes a difference doesn't it?
no, she had the good sense to dump him
I’m waiting to see the WaPo write as many articles about this as they did ‘macaca.’
It is indeed a common expression. In this case, however, it was said short after she told her lipstick joke. At best, it was a bonehead remark by him. And consider this. If you use the term lipstick on a pig, you are doing it to criticize your opponent or opponent’s plan. It should bring cheering from your crowd. Instead, it brought laughter -—— and the laughter came when he paused and before a punchline was told. Who laughs before the punchline is told?
“Calling a spade a spade” and then had the whole audience laughing...they would be roasted by the media.
Touche, FRiend.
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