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Minnesota Poll: Obama, McCain are dead even in state (13 point Palin bounce)
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Posted on 09/13/2008 10:13:22 PM PDT by Chet 99

Minnesota Poll: Obama, McCain are dead even in state

By BOB VON STERNBERG, Star Tribune

September 13, 2008

Minnesota has become a battleground in a presidential campaign that has dramatically tightened nationwide.

A new Star Tribune Minnesota Poll shows that the race is now a dead heat between Barack Obama and John McCain, each supported by 45 percent of likely voters in the state.

The new poll likely will stoke both sides' efforts during the final 51 days until the election, triggering a barrage of advertising, grass-roots politicking and, potentially, stepped-up visits by the candidates.

The poll found that McCain has made gains across the board since a May Minnesota Poll that showed him trailing by 13 points. He has picked up considerable support among men and to a lesser degree among women. He also has boosted his standing with whites, young voters and all levels of household income and education.

(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: 2008polls; electionpresident; elections; mccainpalin; mn2008
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1 posted on 09/13/2008 10:13:22 PM PDT by Chet 99
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The Red Star Tribune has consistently under-polled Republicans. They had Mondale beating Coleman by 8 points in their final poll.


2 posted on 09/13/2008 10:14:15 PM PDT by Chet 99 (http://www.mccainpalinvictory2008.com/)
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To: Chet 99

Gosh, I was about to post this poll. Can’t believe it is really TIED in MN!!! Bambi in big doodo...


3 posted on 09/13/2008 10:16:36 PM PDT by maccaca (puma)
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To: Chet 99
I think Obama is toast in MN. He should be +10 points up!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

4 posted on 09/13/2008 10:17:14 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Chet 99

Guys, this is HUGH! I live in the Twin Cities and if anyone is familiar with this poll, it’s always 5-10 points skewed toward the Dem. They gave Kerry a huge lead just a couple of days before the election and Bush lost by only a couple of points.

If this RedStar/Minnesota poll has them tied, Mac might be up.


5 posted on 09/13/2008 10:18:14 PM PDT by vwatto
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To: vwatto

Why are so many nice mid western states so left leaning??
I’m glad to hear we are tied, but McCain isn’t spending any time there is he?
I’m trying to watch where the campaigns go.


6 posted on 09/13/2008 10:20:16 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Chet 99

7 posted on 09/13/2008 10:20:35 PM PDT by NewMediaFan (Fake but accurate)
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To: vwatto
Among likely voters, yes! If Minnesota turns Red, I think Wisconsin will follow suit.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

8 posted on 09/13/2008 10:20:47 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Chet 99
Minnesota Poll: Obama, McCain are dead even in state (13 point Palin bounce)

I am a little bit in shock. Who would have thought this even possible a week ago?

9 posted on 09/13/2008 10:20:54 PM PDT by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what hall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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The state's voters are evenly divided as to whether Palin is qualified to become president, with 43 percent agreeing that she is and 45 percent saying she isn't.

Forty-four percent say Obama is too inexperienced to be an effective president.

So MN residents believe Palin is more qualified that Barry Hussein. This is just delicious. Nice job focusing on Palin's lack of experience guys, keep it up! Boomerang, baby.

10 posted on 09/13/2008 10:21:06 PM PDT by Chet 99 (http://www.mccainpalinvictory2008.com/)
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To: Chet 99

The lightworker Soetoro will win every single vote, if not more, as everyone knows. The mainstream media said so.

11 posted on 09/13/2008 10:21:24 PM PDT by rdl6989 (What isn't above Obama's pay grade?)
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The state's voters are evenly divided as to whether Palin is qualified to become president, with 43 percent agreeing that she is and 45 percent saying she isn't.

Forty-four percent say Obama is too inexperienced to be an effective president.

So MN residents believe Palin is more qualified that Barry Hussein. This is just delicious. Nice job focusing on Palin's lack of experience guys, keep it up! Boomerang, baby.

12 posted on 09/13/2008 10:22:02 PM PDT by Chet 99 (http://www.mccainpalinvictory2008.com/)
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To: vwatto

I live near the twin cities, and I was considering logging a protest vote against McCain, seeming as how my votes never count toward the electoral total. I still don’t think McCain will carry the state, but perhaps I should reconsider.


13 posted on 09/13/2008 10:22:31 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Chet 99

If Mac is winning MN... Jobama is toast..


14 posted on 09/13/2008 10:23:15 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Chet 99

WOW...in the land Jesse Ventura and Al Franken.

I don’t ever want to feel confident about this election, but, this news sounds pretty good.

Doesn’t it seem like almost all the recent state polls have all contained good news for McCain.

Just imagine when Palin hands Biden’s head to him on a platter during the debate.


15 posted on 09/13/2008 10:23:50 PM PDT by waus
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To: Chet 99

MN hasn’t voted Republican since 1972. Even Mondale was able to eke out a ~4,000 vote vitory in his home state in 1984. The only other times after the New Deal that MN has gone Republican were both times Eisenhower ran.


16 posted on 09/13/2008 10:24:02 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less.)
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To: Chet 99

Good. Lots of hockey moms, dads, & kids in MN.


17 posted on 09/13/2008 10:24:13 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: Chet 99

Yeah, that’s the most bizarre attack against Palin from Obama campaign. Every time they brought up how inexperienced/unqualified Palin is to be VP, people would immediately focus on Obama’s ‘inexperience’.

Obama’s ‘experience’ number is down, down and down thanks to their idiotic attacks on Palin.


18 posted on 09/13/2008 10:24:45 PM PDT by maccaca (puma)
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To: Chet 99

This is unbelievable!! Minnesota??? Republican?? Wow, let’s keep rolling.....great news!!! thanks for posting!!


19 posted on 09/13/2008 10:25:32 PM PDT by IndianPrincessOK (McCain/Palin...2 pit bulls, one with lipstick! Pigs will fly with lipstick Nov. 4th)
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To: Chet 99
WOW, thats one heck of a bounce!!

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20 posted on 09/13/2008 10:25:40 PM PDT by chaos_5 (http://www.cafepress.com/chaos_5)
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To: rfp1234

Hockey is really big in this state. That might help some.


21 posted on 09/13/2008 10:26:08 PM PDT by vwatto
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To: Chet 99

What I find interesting is these mid-west and rust belt polls constantly show either a tie or McCain behind by 3 points.


22 posted on 09/13/2008 10:26:35 PM PDT by jerry557
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To: snarkytart
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23 posted on 09/13/2008 10:27:18 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin "The Iron Lady from the North")
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To: vwatto

Wouldn’t hold your breath...this State has put in the likes of Ventura and Keith Ellison.


24 posted on 09/13/2008 10:27:25 PM PDT by MNlurker
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To: maccaca

IF this is true, if Minnesota is even remotely close let alone tied or McCain up you are looking at a full scale route in this election.

Election night won’t be about will McCain win, it will be about HOW MANY SEATS WILL REPUBLICANS GAIN, or HOW BIG A MAJORITY WILL THEY HAVE WHEN VOTING ENDS.


25 posted on 09/13/2008 10:28:57 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Paleo Conservative

it was only 2 pts in 2004. WI was only 1 pt.

And Pawlenty is fairly popular. Add in possible coattails from Coleman, the effect of having the conventin there, etc...

I’m not saying I think McCain will win it, but these states are clearly a bit closer than most probably picture them

Bottom line is if MN and WI remain this close, McCain will win even if he loses them. If the Republican is this close in those states, that means he’s comfortably ahead in the states he really needs to have


26 posted on 09/13/2008 10:29:16 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: maccaca

it doesn’t look like anyone was turned off by Palin


27 posted on 09/13/2008 10:29:17 PM PDT by ari-freedom (We never hide from history. We make history!)
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To: rfp1234

Good. Lots of hockey moms, dads, & kids in MN.

Yes, that’s right...and Unions. And being a pretty liberal state...they must be open to our woman and giving her a chance. I just would have never thought we would have been in play for Minnesota. NICE!! Now if this can just trickle down to a defeat of Al Franken......ugh


28 posted on 09/13/2008 10:29:31 PM PDT by IndianPrincessOK (McCain/Palin...2 pit bulls, one with lipstick! Pigs will fly with lipstick Nov. 4th)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Exactly, Fauxbama should have this state locked up.. if this state is tied, or the dem is only polling at a slight lead here, come election night, you are looking at a full scale route of the democrats, not just a republican victory for the white house.


29 posted on 09/13/2008 10:30:35 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: goldstategop

Imagine the country swings towards McCain before NOV 4th...


30 posted on 09/13/2008 10:31:00 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: goldstategop

If Minn turns red, then that means McCain just won a huge landslide.


31 posted on 09/13/2008 10:33:28 PM PDT by Boiling Pots (Old and Busted: Barack 0bama, New Hotness: Sarah Palin)
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To: Chet 99

I think one thing coning into play here is the fact that most people are just starting to pay attention to the election.

We’ve seen all of the damaging information about Barry, and it’s beyond the realm of belief why anybody would vote for this Marxist/Communist/Racist based on the facts.

Barry, you know what, the people of this country are waking up and the chickensssssssssssss, are coming home to roost.

Your veil of lies and deceit is being ignited just like the American flags those terrorists you support burn.


32 posted on 09/13/2008 10:33:41 PM PDT by waus
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To: waus

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33 posted on 09/13/2008 10:35:30 PM PDT by linton59 (. bitter,typical,gun-toting,Bible thumping)
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To: Chet 99

Yes the Red Star Trib. always slants their polls in favor of the Dims.


34 posted on 09/13/2008 10:35:38 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Boiling Pots

Rasmussen had Obama only up by 4 points in MN on August 13th.

So it would not be unsual for the state to be tied today due to the convention bounce.


35 posted on 09/13/2008 10:35:50 PM PDT by jerry557
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To: Chet 99

I guess they’ve figured out that there’s not much behind the chants and cute slogans.


36 posted on 09/13/2008 10:36:39 PM PDT by boycott
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To: maccaca

I’ll take it as good news but I don’t think McCain will actually win MN. I hope to God they’re going to pour ads and Palin into New Mexico, that one is a must.


37 posted on 09/13/2008 10:38:10 PM PDT by toddausauras
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Just a thought here . . . if I was a local newspaper and I wanted to attract some campaign money to my state, I would do a poll and say the status is dead even.

Better we see this from Gallup, Ras or Zogby before celebrating.


38 posted on 09/13/2008 10:39:20 PM PDT by Owen
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To: goldstategop

Wisconsin may actually be the voter fraud capital of the Western Hemisphere. McCain needs at least 60% in order to win, and that may not be enough.


39 posted on 09/13/2008 10:39:45 PM PDT by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly. 2 Cor. 10:3-5)
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To: Chet 99

I think we’re tied in Minnesota right now because we just had our convention there. Same thing as to why Colorado is tied, when we should be up in that state. Assuming McCain is 2-3 points ahead of Obama nationwide, I think we should be 2-3 points ahead in Colorado, and they should be 2-3 points ahead in Minnesota.

On the other hand, I can be persuaded that Palin has strengthened our ticket (relative to 2004) in the northern tier of states. She’s has a distinctive, Canadian like accent, and she and her husband love the outdoors when it is cold. It is not unreasonable to think this will animate a lot of people in the northern tier of the country, from Duluth to Spokane, and maybe all the way west to Seattle.


40 posted on 09/13/2008 10:41:23 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: Chet 99

> (13 point Palin bounce)

Not quite. McCain has been gaining there since May.


41 posted on 09/13/2008 10:42:16 PM PDT by flyfree (Biden is no Palin and Obama is no McCain)
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To: snarkytart
Why are so many nice mid western states so left leaning??

"Because Republicans are the party of the rich and big business."

That was true 40 years ago, but old habits die hard.

42 posted on 09/13/2008 10:43:26 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Palin in 08)
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To: MNlurker

LOT of Blue Dog Dems in the Arrowhead, though. Bitter Clingers doonchaknow....


43 posted on 09/13/2008 10:44:19 PM PDT by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly. 2 Cor. 10:3-5)
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To: Chet 99

Is it possible the good people of Minnesota saw the violence and damage by Obama supporters, code pink and wacko liberals to their state during the RNC convention and decided they didn’t want those people running washington?


44 posted on 09/13/2008 10:45:44 PM PDT by Brytani ("The First Amendment doesn't say anything about giving you a hug if you're offended.")
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To: rdl6989

LOL!


45 posted on 09/13/2008 10:46:26 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (Obama is the Democrats guy. They bought the ticket, now they must take the ride.)
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To: Boiling Pots
"If Minn turns red, then that means McCain just won a huge landslide."

Yep.

46 posted on 09/13/2008 10:47:24 PM PDT by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly. 2 Cor. 10:3-5)
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To: Brytani

I’ve wondered that myself!

I also wonder whether the same type of destruction in Colorado hurt Obama.

That state is usually pretty red.. and Red State folks don’t take to kindly to anti-war protesters destroying their city.


47 posted on 09/13/2008 10:49:14 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (Obama is the Democrats guy. They bought the ticket, now they must take the ride.)
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To: Owen
Just a thought here . . . if I was a local newspaper and I wanted to attract some campaign money to my state, I would do a poll and say the status is dead even.

Perhaps, but it does mean that the Democrats will have to spend more money in MN than they planned. And more money spent in MN means less spent in NC or VA.

Better we see this from Gallup, Ras or Zogby before celebrating.

Right, there is no reason to celebrate. But these results are very surprising.

48 posted on 09/13/2008 10:49:48 PM PDT by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what hall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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To: ConservativeMan55

I always figured if the American public got to see the “true” democratic party, the majority would be highly turned off.

I personally think that is starting to happen and if McCain wins by a significant margin, I may be right in that analysis.


49 posted on 09/13/2008 10:51:17 PM PDT by Brytani ("The First Amendment doesn't say anything about giving you a hug if you're offended.")
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To: goldstategop
If we take Minnesota or Wisconsin, that gives us wiggle room if there's trouble in Nevada, New Mexico, or Colorado and more than makes up for Iowa which I can't see McCain winning with the ethanol.

If we take both of them, it's over, if it wasn't already.

50 posted on 09/13/2008 10:52:25 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Palin in 08)
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