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Libertarian Group Condemns Sarah Palin for Not Killing Disabled Baby in Abortion
Life News ^ | 9/17/08 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 09/17/2008 3:56:37 PM PDT by wagglebee

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A writer for a libertarian group has written perhaps the most scathing attack on pro-life vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin since the Alaska governor was announced weeks ago as John McCain's running mate. Nicholas Provenzo condemns Palin for the birth of her baby Trig, who has Down syndrome.

Provenzo, who writes for the Center for the Advancement of Capitalism, not only bashes her for allowing Trig to be born, but says she should have made the so-called morally justifiable decision to kill him in an abortion.

The Center for the Advancement of Capitalism bills itself as a group "dedicated to advancing individual rights and economic freedom through Ayn Rand's philosophy of Objectivism."

"Like many, I am troubled by the implications of Alaska governor and Republican Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin's decision to knowingly give birth to a child disabled with Down syndrome," Provenzo writes.

"Given that Palin's decision is being celebrated in some quarters, it is crucial to reaffirm the morality of aborting a fetus diagnosed with Down syndrome (or by extension, any unborn fetus)—a freedom that anti-abortion advocates seek to deny," he adds.

Provenzo advocates not only a discriminatory, but apparently a pro-eugenics view of the disabled that rivals that of Nazi Germany.

"A parent has a moral obligation to provide for his or her children until these children are equipped to provide for themselves," he contends. "Because a person afflicted with Down syndrome is only capable of being marginally productive (if at all) and requires constant care and supervision, unless a parent enjoys the wealth to provide for the lifetime of assistance that their child will require, they are essentially stranding the cost of their child's life upon others"

Provenzo goes on to condemn National Review writer Michael Franc, who sees Down syndrome's victims as "ambassadors of God" who "offer us the opportunity to rise to that greatest of all challenges."

In a rebuke that smacks of selfishness at its worse, Provenzo says, "for many" potential parents of disabled babies, "that opportunity for challenge is little more than a lifetime of endless burden."

Fortunately for Trig, Palin decided otherwise.

While as many as 80-90 percent of unborn children diagnosed with Down syndrome become victims of abortion, Palin didn't let her child become a statistic. Palin, who has deeply-felt pro-life views, gave birth to her fifth child in April and the baby was diagnosed with the condition.

"Trig is beautiful and already adored by us," Palin said in a statement LifeNews.com obtained at the time.

"We knew through early testing he would face special challenges, and we feel privileged that God would entrust us with this gift and allow us unspeakable joy as he entered our lives," she said.

'We have faith that every baby is created for good purpose and has potential to make this world a better place. We are truly blessed," the 44 year-old governor added.

Trig was born on Friday, one month before his due date, and he weighed 6 pounds, 2 ounces.

ACTION: Contact the Center for the Advancement of Capitalism with your condemnation of his remarks at http://www.capitalismcenter.org/Feedback or info@capitalismcenter.org



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; cac; downsyndrome; eugenics; liberaltarians; libertarians; lifehate; moralabsolutes; narcissism; nicholasprovenzo; objectivism; palinfamily; proaborts; prolife; provenzo; sarahpalin; sickos; trigpalin; utilitarianism; utilitarians
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In a rebuke that smacks of selfishness at its worse, Provenzo says, "for many" potential parents of disabled babies, "that opportunity for challenge is little more than a lifetime of endless burden."

NO, most people do no view their children as "burdens."

1 posted on 09/17/2008 3:56:37 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 09/17/2008 3:57:13 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 09/17/2008 3:57:47 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
Center for the Advancement of Capitalism

Yeah, right. 

4 posted on 09/17/2008 4:00:08 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn
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To: wagglebee

What a sick dude.

What happens when we can test for virtually everything else possible in the womb?

The babies estimated IQ is too low and will be a “burden” so abort him or her...

The babies eyes aren’t blue... Abort it and try again...


5 posted on 09/17/2008 4:00:10 PM PDT by DB
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To: wagglebee

Hmm, maybe Whittaker Chambers’ review of Atlas Shrugged was right after all. What an asshat this guy is.


6 posted on 09/17/2008 4:01:18 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: wagglebee

Wait a minute, have I been bamboozled by the Libertarian party? I thought it was about personal choice.

And for the pro-choicers... I thought it was about PRIVACY and CHOICE. Now I find out it’s about killing what others see as not fit for living.

Sounds awful brownshirt to me.


7 posted on 09/17/2008 4:01:45 PM PDT by autumnraine (McCain/Palin 08)
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>>>>>A writer for a libertarian group ...Nicholas Provenzo ... condemns Palin for the birth of her baby Trig, who has Down syndrome.
Provenzo ... writes ... she should have made the so-called morally justifiable decision to kill him in an abortion.

The culture of death marches forward ...

8 posted on 09/17/2008 4:02:05 PM PDT by Reagan Man (McCain Earned My Vote --- With Palin on the ticket, MOST conservatives should be satisfied.)
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To: wagglebee

Do we have an e-mail address for Mr. Provenzo?


9 posted on 09/17/2008 4:02:05 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day ("If someone is coming to kill you, rise early and kill him first" (Sanhedrin 72a and parallels).)
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To: wagglebee

The guy’s an a$$hole, not a Libertarian.


10 posted on 09/17/2008 4:02:50 PM PDT by WackySam (The Constitution is not an a la carte menu.)
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To: wagglebee

This is about the fastest way I have ever seen for the libertarian movement to lose the conservative vote.

Man is an idiot. I have found they tend to hang together.


11 posted on 09/17/2008 4:03:27 PM PDT by edcoil
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To: autumnraine
It's not ‘the’ Libertarian Party.

But ‘a libertarian group’.

The title should have been ‘A’ libertarian Group.

12 posted on 09/17/2008 4:04:38 PM PDT by BGHater (Democracy is the road to socialism.)
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To: WackySam

that guy’s not a libertarian. I am a libertarian and its none of our business what Palin decide to do. I also support overturning roe vs wade because I don’t think law should be made thru the courts. If we wanted abortion to be made legal, it must be done thru the legistrators


13 posted on 09/17/2008 4:04:57 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: autumnraine

Doesn’t sound very libertarian to me. Sounds like brownshirt type crap to me. Small-l libertarians are about choice, not forcing choices on others, so I think this group is libertarian in name only. More like neo-N**i, master race doesn’t need cripples, and all that.


14 posted on 09/17/2008 4:05:04 PM PDT by mavfin (Personal freedom, personal responsibility)
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To: wagglebee
He would of had a wonderful time in Pre WWII Germany...


15 posted on 09/17/2008 4:06:09 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: wagglebee

what’s killing a kid got to do with libertarianism? more like communism.

actually, it’s the reverse: the kid’s an individual and has a right to live.


16 posted on 09/17/2008 4:06:24 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: wagglebee

“A writer for a libertarian group has written perhaps the most scathing attack on pro-life vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin”

Should be, “most scathing self-condemnation for supporting infanticide”.

How this whack job’s comments will hurt Palin are beyond me.


17 posted on 09/17/2008 4:07:10 PM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son that whosoever believes in Him should not die)
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To: wagglebee
Original item here:

http://ruleofreason.blogspot.com/2008/09/palins-down-syndrome-child-and-right-to.htm

18 posted on 09/17/2008 4:08:30 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: DB

Personal story: a niece was pregnant and found out the fetus had Down’s. Some family members advised her to abort. I was 100% against for moral (God should choose, not us) and practical (doctors make mistakes).

The baby was born and indeed had Down’s Syndrome, a very light case. Now he’s a young, healthy boy and a great joy for all. It sickens me to even think people once contemplated murdering him before he even had a chance to survive.


19 posted on 09/17/2008 4:09:35 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Voting proudly for GOVERNOR Palin for VP!)
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To: wagglebee

Provenzo appears to be another maggot infected gay pushing for gay rights and now the killing of babies with Down’s syndrome.

http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=slv8-hptb5&p=Nicholas%20Provenzo%20%2b%20gay&type=


20 posted on 09/17/2008 4:10:09 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (I do not want to know the type of person, who does not like Sarah Palin!)
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To: Grampa Dave

Not surprising. He probably has so much self-loathing that he can’t envision how anyone could be happy.


21 posted on 09/17/2008 4:12:12 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: mavfin

By that logic, any person diagnosed with AIDS should kill himself. Likewise, anyone who has any incurable condition. That British guy who is the math and physics genius, Stephen Hocking or something like that, waste him, he has no quality of life. Old people, fat people, clinically depressed people, bipolar people, schizophrenics, any child left behind in school because he’s not too bright, waste him, waste them all. Only the practically perfect should be allowed to live.


22 posted on 09/17/2008 4:13:07 PM PDT by mathurine
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To: wagglebee
This guy sounds pretty statist, for an alleged Libertarian.
23 posted on 09/17/2008 4:13:27 PM PDT by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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To: wagglebee
Like many, I am troubled by the implications of Alaska governor and Republican Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin's decision to knowingly give birth to a child disabled with Down syndrome," Provenzo writes.

My first thought is that Provenzo is mentally challenged, therefore a worthy candidate of self-abortion.

'We have faith that every baby is created for good purpose and has potential to make this world a better place. We are truly blessed," the 44 year-old governor added.

I agree. Trig is going to change the world by defeating Obama.

24 posted on 09/17/2008 4:13:43 PM PDT by Big Giant Head (I should change my tagline to "Big Giant penguin on my Head")
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To: wagglebee

It seems like every maggot infected homosexual in the so called journalism profession has become completely insane re Sarah Palin, her family and Trig.


25 posted on 09/17/2008 4:14:38 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (I do not want to know the type of person, who does not like Sarah Palin!)
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To: wagglebee

Just give me 5 minutes with this guy. That’s all I ask for.


26 posted on 09/17/2008 4:14:58 PM PDT by Eddiehaskell7
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To: wagglebee
"A parent has a moral obligation to provide for his or her children until these children are equipped to provide for themselves," he contends. "Because a person afflicted with Down syndrome is only capable of being marginally productive (if at all) and requires constant care and supervision, unless a parent enjoys the wealth to provide for the lifetime of assistance that their child will require, they are essentially stranding the cost of their child's life upon others"

OMG!

We need a 527 ad, or some thing on you tube...a group of people with Downs Syndrome telling all these elites what they think of their opinions.

27 posted on 09/17/2008 4:15:23 PM PDT by fanfan (SCC:Canadians have constitutional protection to all opinions, as long as they are based on the facts)
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To: wagglebee

These people are idiots.


28 posted on 09/17/2008 4:16:45 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: fanfan

Liberaltarians often side with the culture of death and use money as the reason to kill.


29 posted on 09/17/2008 4:16:58 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
"While as many as 80-90 percent of unborn children diagnosed with Down syndrome become victims of abortion, . . ."

What a sad commentary on society! The Culture of Death has forgotten that we are created in the image and likeness of God.


30 posted on 09/17/2008 4:18:29 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN 1969. St. Peregrine, patron saint of cancer patients, pray for us.)
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To: Big Giant Head
Trig is going to change the world by defeating Obama.

I find it rather comical that the left's campaign focus is on a baby who isn't even six months old.

31 posted on 09/17/2008 4:18:29 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
Fellow Freepers: I am 58 and have seen a lot, but frankly, this report, and the comments made regarding a Downs’ baby, smack of Nazi Germany. “It is crucial to reaffirm the morality of aborting a fetus diagnosed with Down syndrome (or by extension, any unborn fetus).” The morality of aborting a fetus?? Roe v. Wade did not make abortion moral - it made it legal. There is a difference. But this person would have us believe it is moral. When a lie is repeated often enough, especially to uneducated Americans, it becomes truth. That is what the Nazis did, and that is what this person is doing.
32 posted on 09/17/2008 4:23:18 PM PDT by majormaturity
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To: wagglebee

Provenzo can kiss my differently enabled ass.


33 posted on 09/17/2008 4:24:42 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Grampa Dave
It seems like every maggot infected homosexual in the so called journalism profession has become completely insane re Sarah Palin, her family and Trig.

Well, YEAH - they're BREEDERS, man. How icky is THAT?

It's not just gays who refer to parents as "breeders", btw - I've heard it from deliberately-childless married people as well. Technically, I'm opposed to contraception, but since demographics really IS destiny, I can't feel too bad that the family-haters are doing it.

34 posted on 09/17/2008 4:24:43 PM PDT by nina0113 (If fences don't work, why does the White House have one?)
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To: majormaturity
That is what the Nazis did, and that is what this person is doing.

You're right, this is EXACTLY what they are doing.

This person suffering from hereditary defects costs the people 60,000 Reichmarks during his lifetime. People, that is your money. Read ‘New People’.


35 posted on 09/17/2008 4:28:24 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Jim Robinson

Give ‘em hell Jim!


36 posted on 09/17/2008 4:30:01 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Make drugs not babies?

Strange backwards folks at times.


37 posted on 09/17/2008 4:30:56 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Why is it that so much of our politics these days are influenced by gays? It seems at the political level that they are merely confirming the stereotype of gays as hyperventilating dramatists.

I think the country would be better off if we spent the amount of time appropriate in our national discourse for 3% of the population.

And, seriously, if George W. Bush was for gay “marriage” then the Iraq War would never have been as it was by the media.


38 posted on 09/17/2008 4:32:16 PM PDT by Harry Wurzbach
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To: wagglebee

Since Nicolas Provenzo is actually a Nazi, who has no use for those he deems undesirable, I know he wouldn’t mind being exterminated by those who deem him undesirable.


39 posted on 09/17/2008 4:33:23 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: wagglebee

I heard Trig can’t even e-mail...he is obviously very impaired.


40 posted on 09/17/2008 4:34:27 PM PDT by GnuHere
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To: GnuHere

I can only imagine the hatred that the Obamanists show toward Trig in private.


41 posted on 09/17/2008 4:35:48 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Well. So much for the greatly exaggerated supposed belief of Libertarians that people should mind their own dern business. Guess they were just pulling our legs.


42 posted on 09/17/2008 4:37:21 PM PDT by Twinkie (GOVERNOR Sarah Heath Palin, "Charlie" . . . . .)
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To: DB

I wonder if he thinks people should be eutanized if they become disabled.


43 posted on 09/17/2008 4:37:34 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: Larry Lucido
Hmm, maybe Whittaker Chambers’ review of Atlas Shrugged was right after all.

You know, that was one of my first thoughts as well. I was reminded of Chambers' suggestion that Rand's only true philosophical debt was to Nietzsche, not Aristotle. Provenzo certainly seems to show that.

44 posted on 09/17/2008 4:44:00 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: DLfromthedesert

Here’s a link to a takeoff on Sara & the Starfish. Shows how Sarah feels about a single life and how the libs don’t get it.

http://vimeo.com/1741586


45 posted on 09/17/2008 4:45:31 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: wagglebee

In a free society nobody would be forced to pay for someone else’s problems . This guy may call himself a libertarian but murder for the so called benefit of others is collectivist to the core.


46 posted on 09/17/2008 4:46:38 PM PDT by Nateman (You only need to fool half of them every 2 years.)
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To: DLfromthedesert

I have never had the pleasure of coming face to face with anyone that thinks like this.But i have the Bail money saved just in case that day does arrive.


47 posted on 09/17/2008 4:46:52 PM PDT by dbrew2u
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To: Larry Lucido
The Center for the Advancement of Capitalism bills itself as a group "dedicated to advancing individual rights and economic freedom through Ayn Rand's philosophy of Objectivism."

Hmm, maybe Whittaker Chambers’ review of Atlas Shrugged was right after all

Having read all of Rand's major works, I find it pathetic that adults buy into Rand's Objectivism hook, line and sinker. Swallowing the whole canard.

Objectivism has many philosophical points that are attractive to the hard working ambitious individual, myself included, but ultimately leaves you with a dead soul devoid of faith, hope or love of your fellow man which in the end is the reason we live and breath everyday.

So it is no surprise this author takes this horrid position and tags it with a capitalist tag to give it legitimacy

48 posted on 09/17/2008 4:48:51 PM PDT by Popman (McCain as POTUS is odious, Obama as POTUS is unthinkable.)
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To: Harry Wurzbach

“Why is it that so much of our politics these days are influenced by gays? It seems at the political level that they are merely confirming the stereotype of gays as hyperventilating dramatists.

I think the country would be better off if we spent the amount of time appropriate in our national discourse for 3% of the population.

And, seriously, if George W. Bush was for gay “marriage” then the Iraq War would never have been as it was by the media.”

Excellent points. I stopped going to Episcopal conventions because of having to listen to that 1-3 % of the population pushing the gay agenda and whining about how evil and mean the rest of us were.

You are correct, GW would have confused the Dinosaur fishwraps and ABCNNBCBS if he had said he was for Gay marriage and was trying to kill al al Qaeda terrorists, becaused they were anti Gay Marriage.


49 posted on 09/17/2008 4:49:52 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (I do not want to know the type of person, who does not like Sarah Palin!)
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To: wagglebee

Not he libertarian party I understand, but the reason I left that party is because they claim to be “pro-choice on everything” A lot of lefty turds hide under the guise of being a libertarian.


50 posted on 09/17/2008 4:50:03 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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