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(Cessna) Skycatcher Prototype Crashes
AvWeb ^ | 9/18/08 | Niles

Posted on 09/18/2008 1:55:37 PM PDT by pabianice

Federal investigators are on their way to Douglass, Kansas to investigate the crash of a Cessna Skycatcher LSA prototype Thursday. The pilot of the test aircraft was able to parachute to safety and was reportedly taken to hospital with minor injuries.

Cessna media relations personnel were unable to immediately respond to AVweb's request for more detailed information, but KAKE Television is reporting the aircraft crashed into a treeline near the boundary of Butler and Cowley Counties. The television station is quoting witnesses as saying they heard a loud pop and then saw sparks and the plane spiraling down. The pilot landed in a field about 400 yards from the aircraft. The TV station quoted a Cessna spokesman as saying the crash aircraft had about 150 hours on it.

The prototype first flew on March 8, and Cessna is planning on delivering the first customer aircraft in the first half of 2009. What the crash does to that schedule is unclear. There are close to 1,000 orders for the aircraft, which will be built in China and reassembled in three plants in the U.S.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: cessna; lightsportaircraft; transportation
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Not good. Built overseas. Sounds like an in-flight break-up. Glad the pilot got out.
1 posted on 09/18/2008 1:55:37 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

Not good at all. Cessna was trying to keep costs down by having their new entry level plane built in China.


2 posted on 09/18/2008 1:57:24 PM PDT by Domandred (McWhathisname / Palin - 2008)
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To: pabianice

They should change the name to groundcatcher.


3 posted on 09/18/2008 1:57:52 PM PDT by kms61
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To: pabianice
The pilot of the test aircraft was able to parachute to safety...

Although one hates to hear of any a/c crash, I'm glad the test pilot got out without serious injury.

4 posted on 09/18/2008 1:58:45 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: pabianice

Pure supposition based upon above report: wing spar failed at bottom of fuel tank (pop); fuel ignited briefly (sparks); wing failed.


5 posted on 09/18/2008 2:00:17 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

Built in China. Sheesh. Can’t even get a good plane anymore.


6 posted on 09/18/2008 2:00:18 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: pabianice

Since the pilot jumped, I assume he had no control at all. All controls locked...Otherwise, a good test pilot would try a dead-stick landing...But then again, I am not a pilot.


7 posted on 09/18/2008 2:00:23 PM PDT by devane617 (Fish died on his Harley when he hit a camel at dusk.)
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To: pabianice

Cessna is just trying to increase sales of the Ballistic Recovery System (BRS) option...


8 posted on 09/18/2008 2:01:17 PM PDT by gridlock (The Democrats have attacked Motherhood. Now, if they attack Baseball and Apple Pie, we got it made!)
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To: pabianice

Skycather: Made in China.


9 posted on 09/18/2008 2:01:46 PM PDT by GBA
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To: pabianice

It’s not like this was a prototype with innovative aerodynamics and technology. It’s a damn piston single. Who the heck can screw something that simple up?


10 posted on 09/18/2008 2:01:50 PM PDT by cll (Carthage must be destroyed)
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To: pabianice
MADE IN CHINA

Time for an embargo.
11 posted on 09/18/2008 2:02:11 PM PDT by Arkancide (www.arkancide.com)
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To: Domandred
Not good at all. Cessna was trying to keep costs down by having their new entry level plane built in China.

But if I can buy it at Walmart for $499...

Might be worth considering.

12 posted on 09/18/2008 2:02:19 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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To: b4its2late

Accidents happen! Honest!

13 posted on 09/18/2008 2:04:42 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: pabianice
Made in China... red flag!

In all fairness though, I did know a test pilot when I was younger. When I first asked him what he did for a living, he said, "I rip the wings off of aircraft". Apparently, the manufacturers really want to know the exact limits of the machine before failure and they pay good money to find out.

14 posted on 09/18/2008 2:06:32 PM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: Publius6961

I wouldn’t buy a plane from WalMart, but

I *might* buy a boat from WalMart.

The difference being, I can swim...


15 posted on 09/18/2008 2:06:38 PM PDT by null and void (Who cries for the krill?)
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To: pabianice; CindyDawg
I went back to my thread last year when Cessna announced this plane at Oshkosh.

Lookie what I found:

CindyDawg: "How much with an attached parachute?:’) "

ROFLMAO

16 posted on 09/18/2008 2:07:18 PM PDT by Domandred (McWhathisname / Palin - 2008)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Wong Wei?


17 posted on 09/18/2008 2:07:33 PM PDT by null and void (Who cries for the krill?)
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To: Publius6961

Yeah you’re right. Who could pass up a deal like that to kill yourself? LOL


18 posted on 09/18/2008 2:07:57 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain, the Ipecac president... Obama the strychnine president...)
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To: pabianice

I’m thinking “too much lead in the paint”.


19 posted on 09/18/2008 2:08:03 PM PDT by RobRoy (This is comical)
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To: null and void

Wight you are!


20 posted on 09/18/2008 2:08:30 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: cll

>>It’s not like this was a prototype with innovative aerodynamics and technology. It’s a damn piston single. Who the heck can screw something that simple up?<<

Well, it is made in china. My sisters Citation is supposed to be one of the safest planes in the air though...


21 posted on 09/18/2008 2:09:16 PM PDT by RobRoy (This is comical)
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To: pabianice

Doesn’t look any different from the 210 series. What’s the point?


22 posted on 09/18/2008 2:10:40 PM PDT by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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To: pabianice

Lots of good 152’s out there for around 20 grand ... I think this A/C goes for around 100g’s ....


23 posted on 09/18/2008 2:13:42 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Wong Wei Coweigan


24 posted on 09/18/2008 2:16:37 PM PDT by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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To: SkyDancer
Lots of good 152’s out there for around 20 grand ... I think this A/C goes for around 100g’s ....

It looks just like my GlaStar except that my GlaStar cruises at 130 mph on 5 GPH worth of unleaded.

25 posted on 09/18/2008 2:21:35 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: pabianice
It is the wrong answer to the quest for a less expensive airplane via the LSA route....

The answer is the "Facetmobile", but that is way to deep for most folks to get their hands or head around, read the PAV report on the Facetmobile's site.

Here is the as yet to be built 2 seat version, the FMX-5


26 posted on 09/18/2008 2:21:58 PM PDT by taildragger (The Answer is Fred Thompson, I do not care what the question is.....)
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To: SkyDancer
I think this A/C goes for around 100g’s ....

Most of the money was spent on avionics. If you've looked inside there is about $95K worth of glass cockpit on the panel.

27 posted on 09/18/2008 2:23:40 PM PDT by Domandred (McWhathisname / Palin - 2008)
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To: LeGrande

Good plane - only problem is when that fiberglass goes up in flames, it goes up in flames .... well what the heck, you could also get it falling off your couch in a fit of laughter......


28 posted on 09/18/2008 2:24:36 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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To: Domandred

Right - most of the price is in the panel ... but when the glass goes out ... are there analog backups??? We have them in the biz-jets I fly in case, and so does Boeing A/C .....


29 posted on 09/18/2008 2:26:46 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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To: SkyDancer
Good plane - only problem is when that fiberglass goes up in flames, it goes up in flames .... well what the heck, you could also get it falling off your couch in a fit of laughter......

I just tell my wife that I can always land it slowly enough to walk away from the crash. When I designed the engine and fuel system I eliminated the need for a header tank. A good friend of mine, Jim Londo died in a Cessna because of the header tank.

30 posted on 09/18/2008 2:27:26 PM PDT by LeGrande
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To: devane617
...But then again, I am not a pilot...

I used to be a pilot for a bread factory.

My job was to take the bread off one table and pilot on another.

I had to quit, though.

The dough was bad and I started to loaf.

Nyuk, nyuk.

31 posted on 09/18/2008 2:27:36 PM PDT by FReepaholic (Palin's hot and she has a birth certificate.)
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To: LeGrande

Same thing with the Kit Fox ... fuel tank right there in front of you .... scary .....


32 posted on 09/18/2008 2:30:50 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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To: devane617

“Since the pilot jumped, I assume he had no control at all. “

Plane has a full chute. Whole things comes down with a very large chute.


33 posted on 09/18/2008 2:30:57 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: CougarGA7

Speaking of mechanical disasters, how’s things?


34 posted on 09/18/2008 2:32:19 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: FReepaholic

made me laugh :-) think i will have a beer and cigar.


35 posted on 09/18/2008 2:32:23 PM PDT by devane617 (Fish died on his Harley when he hit a camel at dusk.)
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To: SkyDancer
but when the glass goes out ... are there analog backups

If there is backups they are really little and disguised as knobs and buttons.

36 posted on 09/18/2008 2:33:12 PM PDT by Domandred (McWhathisname / Palin - 2008)
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To: Domandred

Interesting that a plane built in China can’t be flown there by the people building them ... no GA in China ... then too, they build a lot of gun stuff that they can’t use ...


37 posted on 09/18/2008 2:35:00 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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To: CodeToad

You think he jumped after the plane shute deployed? I guess, if I had a personal shute I would jump also.


38 posted on 09/18/2008 2:35:36 PM PDT by devane617 (Fish died on his Harley when he hit a camel at dusk.)
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To: devane617

Nope. No need. Those things work great. Besides, getting out of such a small plane is a hazard in itself.


39 posted on 09/18/2008 2:37:25 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Tijeras_Slim

You cant break things if you can’t start them in the first place.

Things are going good overall. Hey, do you have and extra 14k in your budget. I want to get something.


40 posted on 09/18/2008 2:37:32 PM PDT by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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Nevermind. Re-read all the words in the article. It says the pilot landed 400 yards from the crash site, meaning he jumped. Oops.


41 posted on 09/18/2008 2:38:42 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: CougarGA7
Hey, do you have and extra 14k in your budget. I want to get something.

After the jello wrestling mail order bride you got with the last 14K, I'm afraid to ask.

42 posted on 09/18/2008 2:42:22 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Out of nowhere....thanks you own me a fresh can of soda


43 posted on 09/18/2008 2:44:47 PM PDT by Domandred (McWhathisname / Palin - 2008)
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To: Domandred; CougarGA7

Talk to Cougar, he’s the one with the cash.


44 posted on 09/18/2008 2:48:58 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I didn’t know that she came with accessories, but they cost extra.


45 posted on 09/18/2008 2:51:13 PM PDT by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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To: Domandred

I’m sure Cessna has made a fine plane here but making it cheaper doesn’t seem to be the best idea.
How about making it as well as it can be made?

This has got to set back Cessnas efforts to enter the L.S.A. market.


46 posted on 09/18/2008 3:03:44 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: pabianice

You can speculate. I could say it most likely was an engine failure. I’ve heard that one in three new engines fail in the first year in aviation.
Private pilot here living on a private airport.


47 posted on 09/18/2008 3:05:52 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: CodeToad

Based on the report he landed 400 yards from the aircraft, so it implies he had his own chute.


48 posted on 09/18/2008 3:06:02 PM PDT by Rev DMV
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To: cll

Lycoming, Continental, Rotax, I can go on here but they all have problems and it doesn’t make sense. I mean how can Ford screw up a pick up truck? They’ve only make how many millions?
You’d think they’d get it right by now.
Same for engine manufacturers.


49 posted on 09/18/2008 3:08:40 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Tijeras_Slim; Eaker
Speaking of mechanical disasters, how’s things?

After your first few words, I was expecting a joke about Eaker...

50 posted on 09/18/2008 3:16:49 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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