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1 posted on 09/19/2008 11:40:48 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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Will is right about McCain, but W would never help Wall Street willingly.


3 posted on 09/19/2008 11:44:20 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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Its for conservatives to argue against welfare for the bottom rungs of society when they're seen as favoring corporate welfare for Wall Street's fat cats.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

4 posted on 09/19/2008 11:44:24 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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I agree. Where are we going to get a good Monte Cristo now? /s


5 posted on 09/19/2008 11:45:16 AM PDT by MarkeyD (I love Palin! McCain...not so much.)
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With this bailout we can kiss goodbye any significant reforms to the tax code. For my lifetime, anyway.

Thanks for hanging tough, GOP.

6 posted on 09/19/2008 11:46:08 AM PDT by skeeter
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I’m not going to say that I know the inner workings of the financial mess we find ourselves in. But sometimes people at the top must take the fall for a mismanaged event. Why is is preposterous to say that the leaders of Fannie and Freddie and Lehmann and Merill should be ousted, but not the leader of the organization installed to oversee them. Can someone explain this. It seems the very least we should do. Am I supposed to care that much about this one man? Now, if there’s something we don’t konw about...maybe he tried to do something but was shot down..then I’ll take another look. But as of now, I don’t understand.


7 posted on 09/19/2008 11:46:31 AM PDT by Hildy ("We do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.")
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I’m not going to say that I know the inner workings of the financial mess we find ourselves in. But sometimes people at the top must take the fall for a mismanaged event. Why is is preposterous to say that the leaders of Fannie and Freddie and Lehmann and Merill should be ousted, but not the leader of the organization installed to oversee them. Can someone explain this. It seems the very least we should do. Am I supposed to care that much about this one man? Now, if there’s something we don’t konw about...maybe he tried to do something but was shot down..then I’ll take another look. But as of now, I don’t understand.


8 posted on 09/19/2008 11:46:31 AM PDT by Hildy ("We do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.")
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To: Larry Lucido; Cagey; MotleyGirl70; Gamecock

Kramer: “ I’ll tell you who is an attractive man; George Will.”

Jerry: “Really!”

Kramer: “Yeah! He has clean looks, scrubbed and shampooed and....”

Elaine: “He’s smart....”

Kramer: “No, no I don’t find him all that bright.”


9 posted on 09/19/2008 11:47:11 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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Will is correct on the Chris Cox issue. When there is so much ammunition out there against the democrats, why throw someone (who has no oversight) from your own party under the bus? It boggles the mind.


10 posted on 09/19/2008 11:48:09 AM PDT by Cathy
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The answer is simple. Not all institutions are created equal. We can let Bennigan’s fail without any serious systemic harm. If we let the financial system just crash instead of organizing a graceful failure, the same people would be complaining about the resultant depression. Sometimes I wonder if our economy has simply gotten too complex for the average person to really understand and we’re left with nothing but rampant emotionalism.


11 posted on 09/19/2008 11:52:32 AM PDT by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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There’s a very simple explanation of why Bennigan’s doesn’t get a bailout - not enough politicians own millions of dollars of stock in THAT company.


13 posted on 09/19/2008 11:55:21 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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McCain should also bash Republicans, and the White House.

He should slam Bush, Cox and the regulators who today gave Franklin Raines a slap on thw wrist. It will remind people of Teddy Roosevelt, the true "original marverick", and will help his cause.

17 posted on 09/19/2008 11:57:38 AM PDT by montag813
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"RINO don't harm RINO".... <- Planets of apes mentality..
Chris Cox and George Will are cut from the same cloth..
Democrat appeasers.. Democrats queerly dressed as republicans
19 posted on 09/19/2008 12:02:05 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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I’m wondering if fiscal conservatism can ever recover from the blow this socialist bailout has dealt.


21 posted on 09/19/2008 12:03:14 PM PDT by mysterio
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If you really believe in trickle-down economics, it shouldn't be hard to see why a massive company like AIG failing will have major global repercussions.

Similar situation with others that the Wall Street trading Jihadis were going after.

If McCain can live up to what he has promised (tax cuts and reduction of pork barrel) a turnaround should happen soon which will help to pay off these new debts fairly soon.

22 posted on 09/19/2008 12:03:58 PM PDT by what's up
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I for one and tired of George Will’s whining.


23 posted on 09/19/2008 12:05:25 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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Bennigan vs AIG


Hmmmm... the old saying comes to mind
...you owe the bank $50,000.00 the band owns/controls you...you owe the bank $500,000.000.00 and you own/control the bank.

It a difficult situation wherein many corporations surely want to be assisted/spoon-fed out of their greed. But the example of Bennigan is somewhat narrowed to a few locations (though important to those that lost employment)...now AIG is international in scope and a world market/stability may have been at risk.

Still my understanding that AIG is a 'controlled bankruptcy'...that the Government now controls 79.5% of AIG, sizeable AIG assets are to be liquidated (to repay the loan) and the $85 BILL loan is set forth at 11.5% (a steep rate).

29 posted on 09/19/2008 12:28:17 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen ( Sarah! ... you had us at ...." I accept...")
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I do agree that Cox should be fired. Cox did not bring the hammer down on the abuses which led to this crisis. For instance the CEO's of Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac should have been arrested for securities fraud in their cooking the books to get CEO profit bonuses.

Cox is responsible for seeing that these kinds of meltdowns do not occur. Even if Cox is not responsible for this mess, he needs to be replaced immediately to show the next SEC chairman that he will be held accountable should something like this occur on his watch.

Not firing Cox is simply allowing the buck to be passed. The fact of the matter is that Cox should have tendered his resignation already. Then the ball would be in Bush's court as to whether or not he would accept it and why.

The buck has to stop somewhere.

33 posted on 09/19/2008 12:35:12 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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When I first heard McCain's statement, I wondered whether it was a bit OTT, and I have not reached a final conclusion, but here are some thoughts. When someone agrees to take the responsibilty of a critical job, be it FCC chairman or theater commander in an armed conflict, you assume the responsibility to ensure a responsible outcome. Not just to the best of your ability, but the best that can be done, and if someone else is more fit to safeguard a $13 T economy or safeguard the lives of men and women in combat then you have the responsibility to say to the President, with all humility I cannot take or continue in this post and request that you replace me with XXX who is far more qualified.

Cox may be well meaning, but he is swimming with the smartest and highest paid sharks in the world. We just got fleeced while the system is hemmoraging money into private hands.

40 posted on 09/19/2008 1:07:15 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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P.S. and George Will cannot have it both ways.


41 posted on 09/19/2008 1:08:29 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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In the real world at a major Fortune 500 company, Paulson and Cox would both be fired.

Either that or they’d both receive promotions and a chance to work in Zurich... where they could explore new career opportunities and do less damage to the economy.


52 posted on 09/22/2008 8:27:54 PM PDT by o2bfree
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