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Dementia patients' 'right-to-die'
BBC News ^ | 9/19/08 | BBC News

Posted on 09/20/2008 2:33:36 PM PDT by wagglebee

Elderly man
People should be able to say if they wish to die, Baroness Warnock says
People with dementia should be able to end their lives if they feel they are a burden to others or to the NHS, according to a respected ethicist.

Baroness Mary Warnock, who has made similar calls in recent years, first made her remarks in a Church of Scotland magazine.

She told the BBC she believed there were many who "sank into dementia when they would very much prefer to die".

But Alzheimer's charities called her remarks "insensitive and ignorant".

Around 700,000 people in the UK have dementia and the number is expected to double within 30 years.


(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: europeanchristians; euthanasia; healthcare; moralabsolutes; prolife; scotland; socializedmedicine
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But she added: "I still think that there is a very huge number of people who sink into dementia and mental incapacity who would really very much prefer to die rather than continue in the state they are in."

And I think YOU personify evil.

1 posted on 09/20/2008 2:33:36 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 09/20/2008 2:34:15 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 09/20/2008 2:34:36 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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I expect to get flamed for this, but I have no interest in sticking around once I lose my mental capacity.


4 posted on 09/20/2008 2:35:06 PM PDT by kms61
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5 posted on 09/20/2008 2:35:06 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Interesting how Pope Benedict just spoke about this on Sept 15, 2008. This is an issue near to my heart since my mom has been suffering from dementia since at least 2002.

“People must accept death at “the hour chosen by God,” Pope Benedict XVI told ailing pilgrims Monday in an anti-euthanasia message at Lourdes, the shrine that draws the desperate, sick and dying.”

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080915/ap_on_re_eu/eu_france_pope


6 posted on 09/20/2008 2:39:03 PM PDT by koraz
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“I expect to get flamed for this, but I have no interest in sticking around once I lose my mental capacity.”

I drift in and out of giving a rat’s butt about life. See you in the next life, eh?


7 posted on 09/20/2008 2:39:39 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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I expect to get flamed for this, but I have no interest in sticking around once I lose my mental capacity.

Ahhh c'mon, look how much fun all those deranged 'Rats are having this election cycle? They're mad as hatters and provide endless hours of entertainment! LOL
8 posted on 09/20/2008 2:43:22 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history.)
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To: wagglebee
People with dementia should be able to end their lives if they feel they are a burden to others or to the NHS, according to a respected ethicist

Anyone whose dementia has progressed to that stage probably does not retain the critical judgment to make such a decision. But what the hell--kill 'em off. The "ethicist" says it's OK.

9 posted on 09/20/2008 2:46:01 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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While abhor any attempt to end the lives of the elderly disabled prematurely, it's also absured to spend beaucoup government bucks for aggresive medical treatment (especially when so many other worthy causes go begging) to keep them around, wandering the halls, their faces in a perpetual vacant stare.

Of course, on the other hand, if you and I have to pay taxes to bail out "blameless" Wall Street billionaires, whyever should we object to keeping people alive past their natural lives folks who would have deceased without extraordinary intervention?

10 posted on 09/20/2008 2:48:55 PM PDT by E. Cartman (America isn't worth protecting with a fence, but MacQueeg's and Bush's estates are???)
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But what the hell--kill 'em off. The "ethicist" says it's OK.

It is rather Straussian(Leo), don't you think, a wise vanguard elite deciding the fate of the unwashed masses?

11 posted on 09/20/2008 2:50:52 PM PDT by E. Cartman (America isn't worth protecting with a fence, but MacQueeg's and Bush's estates are???)
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To: wagglebee
If they have dementia they aren't able to make that decision. My parents and my husband's mom have nothing to worry about. It would be an honor and not an inconvenience to help them. I hope I can afford to hire a companion to drive them where they want to go and help them do what they want. If not, we will still make it work. Mom likes fishing, Dad likes flying and MIL likes traveling.
12 posted on 09/20/2008 2:59:13 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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My Grandmother spent 8 + years in a nursing home not knowing who she or any one else was. My mother the same thing. My mother saw it coming and denied it was happening. When/if my time comes I will take action.


13 posted on 09/20/2008 3:01:20 PM PDT by Harry Pothead (One issue voter, who will kill islamofacists?)
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No flaming here but...When it is your time. We all have a purpose .Don’t cheat your grandkids out of enjoying your company, taking you for “walks” drawing you happy pics....learning to care for others.


14 posted on 09/20/2008 3:04:31 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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I don't believe I have the right to end my life, except to save another. But if you want to die, it's Okay with me. Please, just don't try and involve the medical profession in it or some government entity. Their involvement will surely and ultimately lead to the “duty” to die. There is nothing altruistic about those who advocate for this “right”. This is the 21st century and there are myriad ways to exit without involving others.
15 posted on 09/20/2008 3:05:15 PM PDT by webrover
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Do you have the right to enlist your Doctor in your despair?
Do you mind if the hospital or insurance company decides you need to die, because you’re costing them too much money?
Do you mind if greedy relatives decide they need quicker access to your estate or life insurance?


16 posted on 09/20/2008 3:08:03 PM PDT by G Larry ("Disgust" is a valid expression!-Vote Family Values!)
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“No flaming here but...When it is your time. We all have a purpose .Don’t cheat your grandkids out of enjoying your company, taking you for “walks” drawing you happy pics....learning to care for others.”

Sorry, Cindy. It’s just there are days that I get down. Look at my signature line. Half of my chances at grand-kids are dashed, though my wife and I collect children. We have a recent acquisition now, though he’s about grown-up. We’re trying. Keep the faith, as they say.


17 posted on 09/20/2008 3:11:48 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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People with dementia should be able to end their lives if they feel they are a burden to others or to the NHS, according to a respected ethicist.

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Imagine being stricken with dementia and knowing that this is the attitude of those around one. Knowing that one is considered a burden by others. Feeling unloved and unwanted. I could cry.

18 posted on 09/20/2008 3:14:19 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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19 posted on 09/20/2008 3:16:11 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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Imagine being stricken with dementia and knowing that this is the attitude of those around one. Knowing that one is considered a burden by others. Feeling unloved and unwanted. I could cry.

Precisely. It is disgusting to think that those you love will simply kill you the minute your health declines.

20 posted on 09/20/2008 3:16:29 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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