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5th Grader Suspended For Anti-Obama Shirt
My Fox Colorado ^ | Monday, 22 Sep 2008 | My Fox Colorado

Posted on 09/23/2008 9:47:33 AM PDT by Ultimatum

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To: subterfuge

“What kind of dad lets his 11 year old kid put a bullseye on himself like that? Pathetic.”

Not at all when I started school I was instructed to openly chalange anything that I didn’t agree with, which I did.

I also got straight As through school, a couple of them by going over the teachers head.

With the help of a couple of friends we even got one teacher that started to spew collectivist/communist crap to transfer to another school.

Of course that was 65 years ago.


41 posted on 09/23/2008 11:41:28 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: Emperor Palpatine
Ahhhh.....the good old days.

I had a similar experience in Kansas. They let the Gideons in to distribute Bibles. We could listen to daytime World Series games on our transistor radios, if we kept the sound down. Played dodgeball every lunch hour . . . .

42 posted on 09/23/2008 11:46:20 AM PDT by colorado tanker ("I just LOVE clinging to my guns and my religion!!!!" - Sarah Palin)
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To: Ultimatum

This isn’t a free speech issue, I am sure we can come up with tons of t-shirts that would not be allowed in school. However, the school was still very wrong in this issue. The school said it was going to be Patriotic Day and to wear red, white, and blue. They didn’t set any other peramiters and for that they should apologize. They didn’t say wear red, white, and blue with no political message, so the kid should definitly not been suspended and I say they win their court case.


43 posted on 09/23/2008 11:50:18 AM PDT by YdontUleaveLibs (Reason is out to lunch. How may I help you?)
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To: dalereed
I was instructed to openly chalange anything that I didn’t agree with, which I did.

I attended my son's open house last night (A Philip Randolph in Jacksonville, FL -80% black magnet school.) I must have counted 50 Obama shirts on parents and kids.

My son chose to go back to public school after the rigors of homeschooling. He is in all AP courses, and his teachers universally praise his "original" thinking and well articulated arguments in class discussions.

My proudest moment of the night was meeting his metrosexual AP English teacher who had encouraged his class to write from a feminist viewpoint and had them read and draw conclusions from Ernest Hemingway's Hills like White Elephants

Not wanting to give away the "surprise" of the story, he asked his students what "operation" the characters were discussing. My son completely derailed the class with his supposition that the woman had a penis and was being encouraged to have it removed. He supported this with elephant imagery.

44 posted on 09/23/2008 11:57:27 AM PDT by Dutchgirl ("Every Socialist is a disguised dictator." Ludwig Von Mises)
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To: Ultimatum
I know it might seem that I am flip-flopping on the issue

Some people are quick to judge and scream "flip-flop" at the drop of a hat but I am not one of those people. What I like most in life is exchanging ideas with people and if I am open minded and open hearted I frequently benefit from a fresh outlook on an old position. I completely agree that someone may have a "right" to do something but I don't think we can talk about rights without talking about responsibility and that is probably one of many areas you and I are in agreement.

45 posted on 09/23/2008 12:11:36 PM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: Emperor Palpatine; colorado tanker
most of the kids wore their Humphrey and then McGovern buttons and I dutifully wore my Nixon buttons and had Nixon stickers on my bookbag.

Heheh. I got kicked off the school bus in '68 (East Texas) because my parents were Humpfreyites and I didn't know it mattered. Ohh, the shame of not knowing "Nixon's the one!"

Of course McCain is probably to the left of Humpfrey now...hard to say and they like it that way...I'm glad somebody was listening when I said "the only way I'm supporting McCain is if he picks Palin for VP..."

46 posted on 09/23/2008 12:31:22 PM PDT by no-s
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To: YdontUleaveLibs

That’s it! It was said - the word ‘terrorist’ offended someone. PC in play - if one does;t want to acknowledge something they go into ‘offensive’ mode. To be anti-terrorist is being patriotic. So he incorporated the colors the school asked for and the message the school wanted - to show patriotism. The 8th grader thought it through but the school didn’t. Hope he gets enough for college plus.


47 posted on 09/23/2008 12:31:30 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Zevonismymuse

I could not agree more. Nice to meet you Z.


48 posted on 09/23/2008 12:55:48 PM PDT by Ultimatum (Resposibility is more than a virtue, IMHO.)
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To: nathanbedford

It’s nice to see an argument here for personal responsibility and accountability.


49 posted on 09/23/2008 2:03:01 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: no-s
Humphrey was an old school Democrat. He was pretty good on national security, but way left on domestic issues.
50 posted on 09/23/2008 2:12:53 PM PDT by colorado tanker ("I just LOVE clinging to my guns and my religion!!!!" - Sarah Palin)
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To: Ultimatum
ACLU MIA

Student Wins Anti-Bush Shirt Clash - Can Wear T-Shirt Saying ‘International Terrorist’ With Bush's Picture (LANSDALE, Pa., Dec. 13, 2005)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/12/13/national/main1123854.shtml

51 posted on 09/23/2008 2:28:12 PM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: Ultimatum

52 posted on 09/23/2008 2:28:39 PM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: rivercat
The school acted appropriately. The kids are having enough trouble learning what they need to learn. We don’t need to permit the additional distraction of dueling t-shirts.

Yeah, we don't want the kids to be distracted when they're reading Heather Has Two Mommies or when the guest speaker from NAMBLA is addressing a school assembly.

53 posted on 09/23/2008 2:28:41 PM PDT by PeterFinn (NObama in NOvember.)
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To: PeterFinn
Yeah, we don't want the kids to be distracted when they're reading Heather Has Two Mommies or when the guest speaker from NAMBLA is addressing a school assembly.

That's absurd. I live in the belly of the beast, and my son never had to read anything like that, nor did he have to listen to anyone from NAMBLA.

54 posted on 09/23/2008 2:33:28 PM PDT by rivercat (Sarah Palin '12)
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To: rivercat
So because you've never seen anything bad in your school district it therefore hasn't happened anywhere, is that right? http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Heather+Has+Two+Mommies%22+%22required+reading%22+elementary+school&aq=f&oq= http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1026551/posts?page=284
55 posted on 09/23/2008 2:39:40 PM PDT by PeterFinn (NObama in NOvember.)
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To: PeterFinn

It still doesn’t make it right to have our kids waste valuable time with t-shirt wars. Remember, it’s the idiot liberals that think it’s okay to waste time on things that are not related to the original intent of K-12 education. This type of behavior is one reason why lots of schools have uniforms.


56 posted on 09/23/2008 2:44:45 PM PDT by rivercat (Sarah Palin '12)
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To: rivercat

You’re missing the fact that anti-Bush t-shirts are considered protected speech by the courts.


57 posted on 09/23/2008 2:51:23 PM PDT by PeterFinn (NObama in NOvember.)
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To: Ultimatum
Nice to meet you Z.

Nice to meet you as well Ultimatum. This site works best when people engage in civil debate. Thanks for being cool.

58 posted on 09/23/2008 4:57:35 PM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: weegee

Check these shirts out.

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=35605


59 posted on 10/12/2008 8:53:51 PM PDT by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney (I lust after Sarah the Naughty Librarian)
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