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Poll: McCain leads Obama By 3% in Michigan (46% - 43%)
MRG ^ | September 23, 2008

Posted on 09/23/2008 5:29:06 PM PDT by notes2005

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To: Darren McCarty

That does seem the pattern this year... The elite support Obama...

It’s hard to compare because I’ve since moved to another state—but it does seem like all the cars sporting Obama stickers are recent-models costing over 30K (usually SUVs, oddly enough)—not a lot of love from cheaper, non-yuppie cars, and this is a blue place—

In 2004 it was the typical VWs and other beaters that supported Kerry... actually now that I recall, I moved here after the election... Seemed like every other car still sported a Kerry sticker... these are gone, and Obama stickers are few and far between and are on expensive cars, usually gas guzzlers...

Weird. How does it compare to 2004 in Michigan with you?


101 posted on 09/24/2008 7:15:02 AM PDT by GoSarah
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To: JohnnyZ; Norman Bates; Impy; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican; darkangel82; Clemenza

Michigan elected a Black Dem to statewide office before Colorado. Richard Austin from Detroit who had lost — by only 108 votes (!) — to John Conyers in the ‘64 Dem primary for the newly-created Black 1st district, and then tried to become the first Black Mayor of Detroit in ‘69 (losing to Roman Gribbs, the last White Mayor, by only 7,000 votes, 1%), and then managed to win the Secretary of State’s office in 1970 (at that point, the office had been controlled by the Dems for some time). He was reelected in ‘74, tried to move up to the Senate in ‘76, but lost the Dem primary to the ex-RINO Congressman Don Riegle, and continued to win the Sec of State’s office for the next 18 years. 81, and well past his prime, he got swept out of office by now-Congresswoman Candice Miller in ‘94. Austin is nearly forgotten today, but one wonders how much different he would’ve been had he either beaten Conyers in ‘64 or stopped the monstrous Coleman Young before he laid Detroit to waste.


102 posted on 09/27/2008 12:59:05 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Didn’t Candice Miller win every county in 1998 including Wayne? Was her opponent an avowed child molester or something? Even Dr. Death’s lawyer did better in the Gov’s race.


103 posted on 09/27/2008 6:59:16 AM PDT by Impy (Spellcheck hates Obama, you should too.)
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To: Impy

The dems just conceded that race and put all their eggs in Granholm’s AG basket and some congressional districts who were worried about coattails of Engler in then competitive districts before redistricting, like Bonior’s and Stabenow’s (which Rogers won). Stupak, Levin, Kildee’s, Rivers, and even Dingell’s districts then were not easy either, outside of the fact that they were strong personal candidates.


104 posted on 09/27/2008 7:18:23 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Palin in 08)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Austin was Secretary of State before I was born (I'm in my early 30's) but during my lifetime, he wasn't seen a typical Michigan style of "black candidate." He was just there, and he won everywhere. He always seemed to win largely since the GOP didn't contest the race. In 1994, they finally went after everybody, and took almost all of them except the "eternal general" Frank Kelley. Austin was the old guy who was past his prime and did not do anything about long lines. Candice Miller won. She won re-election easily because people wern't waiting in line for as long as they did for Austin.

Looking back, too bad Austin didn't beat Gribbs in 69. Irony is that I think Obama's biggest problem in Michigan stems from the 1973 mayoral election (along with bussing rulings).

105 posted on 09/27/2008 7:26:47 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Palin in 08)
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To: Darren McCarty

I see her opponent was named Marty Parks, he must have been a total nobody, there is nothing on him.

Hmm Boiner only won 52-45 in 98. It would have been sweet to have beaten him.


106 posted on 09/27/2008 8:24:37 AM PDT by Impy (Spellcheck hates Obama, you should too.)
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To: Darren McCarty; Impy

I was glancing through this book online: http://books.google.com/books?id=oVJJPfdZyhwC&printsec=frontcover&dq=who+killed+detroit%3F&sig=ACfU3U1RjjSjFd967pRXT9PjCiET-fnL1g

Seemed interesting detailing the late ‘60s decline of Detroit. Gribbs was seen as a reactionary to Cavanagh, and tried to crack down on crime, but ended up splitting the city in the process. The authors speculate that Austin might’ve been able to steer a more moderate course, not driving out Whites, and not enflaming Blacks (a la Tom Bradley in L.A., though eventually his last term was a disaster culminating with the Rodney King mess). We’ll never know for sure, though Young was such an exploitive race baiter, he still might’ve run out Austin after a single term in ‘73, anyhow, and still exacerbated the already bad situation in the city. Truly a shame.


107 posted on 09/27/2008 1:27:02 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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