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A bad day for the GOP on politics, bailout plan
AP ^ | September 26, 2008 | Charles Babington

Posted on 09/26/2008 4:04:47 AM PDT by southernnorthcarolina

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Even for a party whose president suffers dismal approval ratings, whose legislative wing lost control of Congress and whose presidential nominee trails in the polls, it was a remarkably bad day for Republicans.

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"This is the president's own party," said Rep. Barney Frank, a top Democratic negotiator who attended both meetings. "I don't think a president has been repudiated so strongly by the congressional wing of his own party in a long time."

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At one point in the White House meeting, according to two officials, McCain voiced support for Ryan's criticisms of the administration's proposal. Frank, a gruff Massachusetts liberal, angrily demanded to know what plan McCain favored.

These officials also said that as tempers flared, Bush struggled at times to maintain control.

At one point, several minutes into the session, Obama said it was time to hear from McCain. According to a Republican who was there, "all he said was, 'I support the principles that House Republicans are fighting for.'"

Some at the table took that to mean the conservatives' alternative proposal, which stands little chance of passage.

(Excerpt) Read more at biz.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bailout; dontdoit; earmarks; frank; fraud; governmentwaste; insanity; pork; propagandawingofdnc
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To: LibLieSlayer

Another corporate welfare which Obama sides with Bush while Mccain oppose? oh btw, Mccain is “more of the same”, “3rd time of Bush”?!?!


21 posted on 09/26/2008 4:24:58 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: southernnorthcarolina
Even for a party whose president suffers dismal approval ratings, whose legislative wing lost control of Congress and whose presidential nominee trails in the polls, it was a remarkably bad day for Republicans.

Um...what polls are you looking at? All but Rassmussen now show the race tied or McCain ahead again.

22 posted on 09/26/2008 4:28:13 AM PDT by RockinRight (Obama who?)
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To: southernnorthcarolina
Bush being the moderate that he is, is trying to push this crapolla on conservatives. Now since we lost congress we have no obligation to support Bush's moderate/liberal gov't plan. He needs to get spanked for trying this, and I think McCain will be no different, and even worse on economics matters. It's one thing for McCain to not support Bush, that's fine, but McCain has a propensity to side with liberals instead of conservatives.

That won't fly with me!

23 posted on 09/26/2008 4:28:38 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Vote Conservative Repuplican!!)
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To: southernnorthcarolina
The most biased Spin the MSM has lifted into a propaganda post in months - and that is saying something.

There is "Chaos" at the meetings, but it is only Republicans causing it?

Associated Press reporters Julie-Hirschfeld Davis and David Espo contributed to this report.

Google these two and you will find they are to the left of Hugo Chavez.

Miss Hyphened Last Name writes only articles that are negative about Republicans. Have a look:

http://www.pelicanfile.com/reporter.cfm/ReporterID/224.cfm

Take your pick with David Espo.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=David+Espo

24 posted on 09/26/2008 4:30:16 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: BRL
This is hilarious!

The Dems are screwed any way they turn. Bush and McCain have them in the perfect trap.

I assume the Dems are now trying to minimize the damage, but they know the reins are in Bush/McCain's hands.

25 posted on 09/26/2008 4:31:04 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: sirchtruth

Bush set this up for a McCain win. It’s (retrospectively) obvious.

Politics isn’t poker, it’s Bridge. Bush made a low lead in trumps, and McCain is winning the trick.


26 posted on 09/26/2008 4:32:58 AM PDT by agere_contra (It's 'We the People', not 'We the Media')
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To: Dawn531

Dawn—You’re right. McCain is running as a maverick, not a pubbie. Just as Palin took on and beat the Alaskan republican machine, it’s a good thing for McCain being seen as taking on Bush. Dems are having a very hard time getting it in their ideologically constrained brains that Bush is not running for president.

With one stroke McCain has shown leadership, separated himself from Bush even more than before, put dems on defensive for many news cycles and has nicely set up his inevitable debate with Onada.

AP’s story about Bush is presented as McCain negative, but it confirms he is not just like Bush. This is so cool because there are so few days left for campaigning. Dems will be hard pressed to mount any meaningful counter attack. The debate should seal it for McCain. Onada’s smarty pants quip “call me if you need me” quip should enable McCain to take control of the debate.

It will be interesting to see how the debate moderator tries to help Onada demonstrate a modicom of relevancy.


27 posted on 09/26/2008 4:35:27 AM PDT by dools007
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To: southernnorthcarolina
More on Missy Hyphened last name's bias. Almost everything she writes about Republicans is "Hurts the GOP" or "Another Blow to Republicans."

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Julie+Hirschfeld+Davis+bias


28 posted on 09/26/2008 4:36:11 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: southernnorthcarolina

AP reporter is dizzy from all the spinning in this article.


29 posted on 09/26/2008 4:36:46 AM PDT by onemiddleamerican
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To: onemiddleamerican
80% of the American people against it.

Democrats have a majority in both houses

Vote for it.

30 posted on 09/26/2008 4:41:46 AM PDT by scooby321 (Cai)
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To: bigbob

They changed the title from, “Bad Day for GOP; Election lost - Obama moving to DC”


31 posted on 09/26/2008 4:42:58 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (If the election were today, Obama would win.........in Europe.)
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To: southernnorthcarolina
Is the AP so blind as to miss the earmarks that the Rats stuck in this debacle? Money - lots of money - for ACORN and La Raza. This is beyond the pale.

This whole issue should expose the Rats and their media synchophants for what they really are ...

32 posted on 09/26/2008 4:44:11 AM PDT by meyer (Go, Sarah, Go!!)
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To: southernnorthcarolina
"Frank, a gruff Massachusetts liberal, angrily demanded to know what plan McCain favored."



ROFLMAO!!! This writer really doesn't get it.
33 posted on 09/26/2008 4:46:13 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life ;o)
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To: southernnorthcarolina
Where's the Barf Alert?
Oh!, Its' the APoop
...nevermind
the Karaoke (APoop/NYT/WaPoop/ABCNNBcBS/pBS/FauxNC) Journalists are @ it again.....just more Liberal Drivel.

34 posted on 09/26/2008 4:50:23 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass ("Annoy the media, elect PALIN and McCAIN....errr....McCAIN / PALIN.....McPALIN" 8^)
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To: agere_contra

This move by McCain (and maybe Bush) nullifies months of campaign rhetoric by obambi who was saying that McCain was a third Bush term. No wonder dimmies are having a cow.


35 posted on 09/26/2008 4:50:44 AM PDT by Need4Truth
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To: southernnorthcarolina

Democrats KNOW public is against the bailout in the form they propose. They also know the public realizes the Dems are in charge and they desperately need to have this pass WITH bi partisan support.

It is actually the Republicans who hold the upper hand here.


36 posted on 09/26/2008 4:54:48 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: 4rcane

If it is a dim and their lips are moving... they are lying.

LLS


37 posted on 09/26/2008 4:59:16 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (GOD, Country, Family... except when it comes to dims!)
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To: southernnorthcarolina

38 posted on 09/26/2008 4:59:31 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life ;o)
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To: BRL; southernnorthcarolina
These crazy people in the Democrat party know the ship is sinking because of their actions, but they have to decided to steer out to see rather than make it to land. They want to get one more massive pork barrel project out as the pig dies. I am crossing the line from disliking Democrats (socialist/communist/progressive/marxist) and what they do, to hating them.

Where are our founding fathers when we need them?

39 posted on 09/26/2008 5:03:53 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (NOBAMA - it is for our future)
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To: southernnorthcarolina
NYT 9/11/03

Fannie Mae, which was previously known as the Federal National Mortgage Association, and Freddie Mac, which was the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation, have been criticized by rivals for exerting too much influence over their regulators.

''The regulator has not only been outmanned, it has been outlobbied,'' said Representative Richard H. Baker, the Louisiana Republican who has proposed legislation similar to the administration proposal and who leads a subcommittee that oversees the companies. ''Being underfunded does not explain how a glowing report of Freddie's operations was released only hours before the managerial upheaval that followed. This is not world-class regulatory work.''

Significant details must still be worked out before Congress can approve a bill. Among the groups denouncing the proposal today were the National Association of Home Builders and Congressional Democrats who fear that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing.

''These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis,'' said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ''The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.''

Representative Melvin L. Watt, Democrat of North Carolina, agreed. ''I don't see much other than a shell game going on here, moving something from one agency to another and in the process weakening the bargaining power of poorer families and their ability to get affordable housing,'' Mr. Watt said.

40 posted on 09/26/2008 5:14:15 AM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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