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Fight Night! -- Scoring Obama-McCain, round by round. [Excellent Summary]
Daily Standard ^ | September 26, 2008 | Jonathan V. Last

Posted on 09/26/2008 11:46:08 PM PDT by Zakeet

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I've got a bracelet, too ...

1 posted on 09/26/2008 11:46:08 PM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet
I have a bracelet too - Ummm from Colonel Klink, ummm no Sgt. Schultz, ummm no....Sgt.
2 posted on 09/26/2008 11:50:46 PM PDT by jrooney (Obama's mentor says God Da*n America. That explains Obama's refusal to put his hand over his heart.)
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I scored it 5-3 for McCain. It was pretty civil until Obama started smirking and kept saying not true when McCain was on the offensive. McCain needed to go after the Dems on Fannie Mae and hammer it home that they blocked legislation a few years ago to rein this crap on Wall St.

I thought it was disrespectful of Obama to keep calling McCain by his first name.


3 posted on 09/26/2008 11:51:17 PM PDT by Gator_that_eats_Dems
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To: Zakeet
I think it was fairly evaluated. First and second impressions matter. What will be really lasting, is Obama's admission McCain is right on most of the issues. If that's not an endorsement of a rival, then I don't know what would be! The damage to Obambi is self-inflicted. He didn't have to hand McCain that kind of gift!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

4 posted on 09/26/2008 11:51:22 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Zakeet
"It's a weird pride that keeps Obama committed to a losing position when he should just find different ground to fight on. You'll notice, by the way, that whenever he loses his way, he blurts out "President Bush."

!!!!!!!!BAM!!!!!!!!!!!

5 posted on 09/26/2008 11:54:31 PM PDT by BossLady ("Dennis K. Eads" ---The name on the POW Bracelet I wore when I was 7 years old)
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To: jrooney

When Barak made that stupid bracelet comment, my husband whispered Bracelet? I’ve got a Super Secret Decoder Ring!”

*LOL*


6 posted on 09/26/2008 11:57:31 PM PDT by IMissPresidentReagan (My bracelet says Stand UP Chuck! - Take that Obamamamamama. :)~)
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bump


7 posted on 09/27/2008 12:00:19 AM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Zakeet

It had the feel of Cheney violating Edwards in every way possible in a debate back in the VP debate of ‘04. Of course, nothing can really ever match that bloodletting.

But McCain definitely hit Obama hard. I think Obama was deft and for those who care about appearances more than substance, he appeared to be holding his own. But when thinking about what was said, McCain definitely won. McCain could’ve scored a knockout by tying the current bailout issue to the Dems’ love of Fannie/Freddie and push of mortgages to people with bad or no credit, along with Obama’s fundraising from those companies.


8 posted on 09/27/2008 12:02:40 AM PDT by Harry Wurzbach
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I know it’s petty , but i think that bracelet thing will leave a mark. People like it simple. Remember Potatoe ?


9 posted on 09/27/2008 12:06:02 AM PDT by fantom
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To: Zakeet

What really struck me about the economic debate was how even in the midst of “the worst economy since the Great Depression” where 0bama and Bush are scheming together to give away $700 billion tax dollars to Wall Street, that 0bama can only talk about how much more money he wants to spend. How much more out of touch can a guy be?

I think 0bama detonated a timebomb on himself and he may not even know it yet.
For a week Americans have been hearing the answer to “so how much is this going to cost us” and the last thing anyone wants to hear is how the guy who wants to be President is going to increase spending in Washington.

McCain could have done more to exploit this during the debate, though I’m sure the McCain campaign will more than make up for it in the coming weeks.


10 posted on 09/27/2008 12:10:27 AM PDT by counterpunch (Jim Jones was a Community Organizer)
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To: Harry Wurzbach; Zakeet; IMissPresidentReagan; jrooney

It appeared to me that, at the beginning of the debate, McCain was trying to portray himself as a consensus builder, someone who can work with both sides of the aisle, as opposed to Obama who consistently attacks Republicans. I don’t think that McCain wanted to come across as laying all of the blame on the Democrats for the financial mess, since he is still trying to work with all parties to craft a solution to the nation’s financial problem. It seemed to me that this was an attempt by McCain to appeal to the undecided moderates and independents, since he didn’t need to appease the Conservatives who are going to vote for him. I am not sure McCain succeeded.

I thought McCain did much better in the second half of the debate when he focused more on policy and his experience.

I thought Obama came across as someone who can be rattled. His facial expressions and head shaking when McCain jabbed him reminded me of Al Gore’s antics in the first debate with Bush - amateurish in a diplomatic setting.

I don’t know if anyone else noticed but, while McCain mentioned the need to protect Israel and Jews several times, Obama did not mention either even once unless I missed it. The debate was supposed to be about foreign policy and Obama doesn’t even mention the only true friend that America has in the Middle East? Will that go unnoticed by American Jews?

Although Obama was more eloquent, I thought that McCain got the better of the “quips” – “hard to reach across the aisle when you are that far left” – “so Iran says they are going to wipe Israel off the face of the earth and we say no you’re not?”

As I anticipated, Obama won on style and McCain won on substance. The loser was the moderator.

I guess we will find out whether style or substance is more important to the majority of the American electorate on November 4th.


11 posted on 09/27/2008 12:11:02 AM PDT by AndyMeyers
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To: Zakeet

Good summary.


12 posted on 09/27/2008 12:12:39 AM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: fantom
I know it’s petty , but i think that bracelet thing will leave a mark. People like it simple. Remember Potatoe ?

The thing is, such gaffes are obvious targets for comedy shows. "I've got a bracelet, too" is the ultimate in pandering and insincerity. Since most people still do not have a good feel for who Obama really is, this is most damning. It confirms that he's just another politician. And with his thin resume that was one of his big selling points. He's been running on 'I'm not Bush.' Well, neither is McCain. So then Obama has the comeback of 'I'm a new politician.' Well, you look and sound like any other now.

The bracelet paints him as a craven, say anything politician. Add to that the 'I agree with John' lovefest and there is plenty of material to work with for comedians and McCain partisans alike.


13 posted on 09/27/2008 12:15:36 AM PDT by Harry Wurzbach
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To: Zakeet

I have a bracelet too lol


14 posted on 09/27/2008 12:16:42 AM PDT by Ancient Drive
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If I hear any more whining about “main street” I’m going to scream. “Main street” took out these crappy loans that got us into this mess. “Main street” is just a bad as the crooked lenders and corrupt politicians who engaged in this crap.


15 posted on 09/27/2008 12:18:55 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill")
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To: Zakeet
I got to see part of a replay of this as I was getting ready for work this morning. I saw the "I have a bracelet, too" leftist anti-war response and almost gagged.

I'll read through this in a little while (and this post is bookmarking it) since I didn't see it all.

What I did see was that McCain just made more sense overall and I thought Obama came across as arrogant, humorless and phony.

Then again, I admit that I am a bit biased. ;-)

16 posted on 09/27/2008 12:19:33 AM PDT by Allegra ( Call me if you need me. Unless it's above my pay grade.)
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To: Gator_that_eats_Dems
Has anyone verified what Henry Kissinger really said when discussing meeting with adversaries? I'm looking forward to the validation of that.

I strongly suspect that McCain was right and Zero was wrong.

17 posted on 09/27/2008 12:22:38 AM PDT by Allegra ( Call me if you need me. Unless it's above my pay grade.)
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To: AndyMeyers
As I anticipated, Obama won on style and McCain won on substance.

I think that McCain won on style because he seemed more presidential and more safe. Obama looked like a gamble.

18 posted on 09/27/2008 12:23:46 AM PDT by Family Guy (I disagree with what you said, but I'll defend to the death your right to shut up.)
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McCain won comprehensively on foreign policy and was equal on the Economy.
19 posted on 09/27/2008 12:34:17 AM PDT by igoramus08
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You are right. McCain won by far but it didn’t seem like he did that well. Obama was really a windbag, lot of generalities, lots of weaseling. No specifics to speak of. But in his windbaggedness he makes himself appear smarter and more attuned than he is. He even stole a couple of ideas from McCain and said “John is right” at least 6 times. That’s gonna come back as a commercial for McCain.

But it was generally an unexciting debate and I found myself struggling to stay awake watching it.


20 posted on 09/27/2008 12:38:01 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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