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Quotes - Legal Plunder - Frederic Bastiat
Bastiat, org ^ | 1850 | Frederic Bastiat

Posted on 10/03/2008 8:43:46 AM PDT by Loud Mime

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1 posted on 10/03/2008 8:43:47 AM PDT by Loud Mime
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2 posted on 10/03/2008 8:46:14 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberalism is a Socialist Disease)
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To: Loud Mime

Wouldn’t it be wonderful if Bastiat were taught in school? This is how people ought to see the world.


3 posted on 10/03/2008 8:46:56 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I ain't gonna quit until I'm laid in my tomb and even then they better shut it tight.)
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To: Loud Mime
Socialists, like all other monopolists, desire to make the law their own weapon. And when once the law is on the side of socialism, how can it be used against socialism? For when plunder is abetted by the law, it does not fear your courts, your gendarmes, and your prisons. Rather, it may call upon them for help.

Sound familiar to any of you voters?

4 posted on 10/03/2008 8:49:23 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberalism is a Socialist Disease)
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To: ClearCase_guy

In talking to students, I find they know nothing of our founding fathers other than they owned slaves. They never heard of Bastiat, they cannot identify our second president, they cannot explain the reason for the Declaration of Independence.

This is why Obama is so popular; because of their lack of education his people do not understand the economic and social dangers that he poses. They see profit from legal plunder and care not for its consequences.

Back to your point, any education should carry these materials; otherwise it’s not an education, it is an indoctrination.


5 posted on 10/03/2008 9:00:01 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberalism is a Socialist Disease)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Wouldn’t it be wonderful if Bastiat were taught in school?

Taught in the original French so that we would have little difficulty shoving it down their Euro-socialist throats!

6 posted on 10/03/2008 9:09:53 AM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Loud Mime
Outstanding post.. thank you...
Democracy is indeed Mob Rule.. by mobsters..
A Political Social Disease thats causes Socialism..

The CURE?: A republic of several States that stand against the Central Government.. and central democracy.. or a central MoB that controls all the State Mobs.. Better the State MOBs fight against each other.. to keep them busy..

7 posted on 10/03/2008 9:14:15 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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“If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the general welfare, the government is no longer a limited one possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one subject to particular exceptions.” James Madison, “Letter to Edmund Pendleton,”

— James Madison, January 21, 1792

“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.”

— James Madison, 4 Annals of congress 179 (1794)

“There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.”

— James Madison, speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 16, 1788

“Congress has not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare, but only those specifically enumerated.”

—Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Albert Gallatin, 1817

“the true theory of our Constitution is surely the wisest and best . . . (for) when all government . . . shall be drawn to Washington as the centre of all power, it will render powerless the checks provided of one government on another, and will become as . . . oppressive as the government from which we separated.”

—Thomas Jefferson

“We still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping at the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised to furnish new pretenses for revenue and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without a tribute.”

— Thomas Paine

“We must confine ourselves to the powers described in the Constitution, and the moment we pass it, we take an arbitrary stride towards a despotic Government.”

— James Jackson, First Congress, 1st Annals of Congress, 489


8 posted on 10/03/2008 9:14:26 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Loud Mime
In talking to students, I find they know nothing of our founding fathers other than they owned slaves. They never heard of Bastiat, they cannot identify our second president, they cannot explain the reason for the Declaration of Independence.

And sadly this is NO accident! They are being dumbed down by design in order to accommodate the socialist agenda currently in vogue!

9 posted on 10/03/2008 9:17:53 AM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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The purpose of public education is... "to manufacture an endless corps of sound Americans. A sound American is simply one who has put out of his mind all doubts and questionings, and who accepts instantly, and as incontrovertible gospel, the whole body of official doctrine of his day, whatever it may be and no matter how often it may change."

H.L. Mencken

10 posted on 10/03/2008 9:22:08 AM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: Bigun
You may like this quote:

The juvenile sea squirt wanders through the sea searching for a suitable rock or hunk of coral to cling to and make its home for life. For this task it has a rudimentary nervous system. When it finds its spot and takes root, it doesn’t need its brain anymore so it eats it. It’s rather like getting tenure.

Daniel C. Dennett, Consciousness Explained

11 posted on 10/03/2008 9:27:56 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberalism is a Socialist Disease)
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To: Loud Mime

Sure....add me to it.


12 posted on 10/03/2008 9:32:34 AM PDT by RC2
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To: Bigun

>They are being dumbed down by design in order to accommodate the socialist agenda currently in vogue!<

And the schools have been doing in by increasing increments for the past thirty some odd years or more!

For heaven’s sake, everyone, CALL YOUR CONGRESSCRITTERS TODAY AND TELL THEM TO VOTE NO ON THE BAILOUT!!!!!


13 posted on 10/03/2008 9:38:09 AM PDT by Paperdoll (Duncan L.Hunter for Secretary of Defense!)
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To: Loud Mime

LOL!

Yes indeed!

Thanks!


14 posted on 10/03/2008 9:42:52 AM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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And the schools have been doing in by increasing increments for the past thirty some odd years or more!

FAR longer than that I'm afraid. I began in earnest in the 1920's in this country but that was just THIS country.

Great Britain is another story.

15 posted on 10/03/2008 9:47:14 AM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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Excellent.

Being a public school graduate 1974, I don't recall Bastiat in our reading. I am currently reading Washington Irving's Life of Washington, in 4 volumes and really enjoy the thought-fullness exhibited in the letters quoted of those involved in the founding. It has taken me a couple months because the idiom and many archaic usages, but well worth the time.

However Bastiat writing in 1850 about slavery and tariffs is not really one of the founders, but a second generation thinker applying the founders principles/insights to the issues of his times.

16 posted on 10/03/2008 9:49:11 AM PDT by BoneHead (McCain/Palin)
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To: BoneHead

And he’s French?


17 posted on 10/03/2008 9:51:51 AM PDT by BoneHead (McCain/Palin)
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To: BoneHead
Something else to consider: Bastiat was born under Napoleon, and he well understood the nature of the French Revolution and the socialism and despotism that arose from it. He looked across the Atlantic and saw that the fruits of the American Revolution were much sweeter -- though still not perfect.

Like de Toqueville, Bastiat was in a fine position to tell us exactly how right the Founding Fathers really were.

18 posted on 10/03/2008 9:56:39 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I ain't gonna quit until I'm laid in my tomb and even then they better shut it tight.)
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To: BoneHead

Lately I’ve been enjoying a book “The Summer of 1787” about the writing of the Constitution. We almost did not have a U.S. because of the slavery question. We almost slipped into different countries.

I leave it at that, as it is good reading.


19 posted on 10/03/2008 10:17:17 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberalism is a Socialist Disease)
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To: Bigun

Fortunately, we still said the pledge of allegiance every morning, had Christmas programs with manger scenes and Christmas carols. We had paper and metal drives, bought stamps to help the war (WWII) effort. The country came together inspite of the depression, and together we did it!

The people had to do without butter, beef, gasoline, rubber, stockings (that leg paint was awful) metal products. Every household had rationing books. And everyonem had vegetable gardens. (Those carrots tasted so good warm from the earth!) America was still America.

Maybe we need another good depression!


20 posted on 10/03/2008 10:29:15 AM PDT by Paperdoll (Duncan L.Hunter for Secretary of Defense!)
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