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Anti-religion fervor in 'Religulous' is over the top
Sandi Dolbee ^ | October 3, 2008 | Sandi Dolbee

Posted on 10/03/2008 1:28:38 PM PDT by nickcarraway

She laughed.

I had invited Cheryl Hall to the screening of “Religulous” to get a faith-based reaction to comedian Bill Maher's diatribe on the divine. Hall's credentials: longtime member of the United Methodist Women and faithful San Diego churchgoer whose husband teaches a weekly Bible study class.

Surely, she would be offended at roasting religion as if it were a Hollywood has-been.

But she laughed. Several times.

Her defense: “I think God has a sense of humor.” And then she added: “If his point was to make religion look ridiculous, then he did a very good job.”

It did not, however, make her lose her religion. Nor did it leave her feeling educated, which isn't exactly high praise for a documentary.

Maher's “Religulous” isn't really a documentary so much as it's propaganda. Funny at times. Mocking often. Certainly clever. But in the end, his fervor unravels into a fire-and-brimstone conversion message for the other team.

“The plain fact is, religion must die for mankind to live,” Maher says in a melodramatic finish that is as smarmy as any late-night cable TV evangelist.

Anyone familiar with Maher's take-no-prisoners style – his stand-up work, the defunct “Politically Incorrect” TV show and currently HBO's “Real Time with Bill Maher” – knows what to expect. It's comedy by cannibalism: He eats their lunch while the hapless victims struggle for a comeback.

Maher tells us in “Religulous” that he was a church dropout as a young teenager, drifting from doubt to dismissal. But there's a zeal in this movie that goes beyond his deadpan style. It's as if this film is his personal crusade to out religion as, in his words, “detrimental to the progress of humanity.”

With the help of “Borat” director Larry Charles, Maher seeks out the least among them, coming up mostly with caricatures of religion – like the Bible theme park in Florida or the television preacher who wears lizard-skin shoes and gold bling. Then the comic lampoons, guts and serves his prey up for the world's snickers.

“The people want you to look well,” says the preacher in the pin-striped finery.

“That's what pimps say about their women,” says Maher.

The preacher tells of counseling a love-struck man to channel that passion toward religion. “ 'Turn that to God and see what happens,' ” he says he told the man.

Maher follows up with footage of a suicide bomber ramming another vehicle and blowing them both up in a fiery ball.

When the head of a ministry that tries to change homosexuals tells him that nobody is born gay, Maher retorts: “Have you met Little Richard?”

He pushes and pushes. How can anyone possibly believe the Bible? A talking snake? A man swallowed by a big fish? “Complete bull----,” he says.

Absent from “Religulous” are the charities, hospitals, soup kitchens and shelters spawned by faith. Absent, too, for the most part, are the best and the brightest of the standard bearers. They wouldn't suit his purposes.

In the final minutes of the film, when he launches into his sermon on the mound of dirt in Israel, the manipulation is blatant. “Faith means making a virtue out of not thinking,” he rants. It is a call to arms for anti-religion forces to “come out of the closet and assert themselves.”

Suddenly, whatever meaningful points he made – from the divisions created by fundamentalism to the shocking violence of extremism – are overtaken by the realization that Maher has an agenda beyond entertainment.

“That's it,” Maher tells us. “Grow up or die.”

God, apparently, doesn't have a lock on fanatics.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antichristian; antitheism; atheism; atheistsupremacist; billmaher; borat; christophobia; culturewar; hollywood; liberalbigot; misotheism; moviereview; religulous; theeternalchristian
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1 posted on 10/03/2008 1:28:38 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Is it anti-religion or anti-Christian?


2 posted on 10/03/2008 1:30:39 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: nickcarraway

I’ll not comment on what I believe must die.


3 posted on 10/03/2008 1:30:43 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a government check!")
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To: nickcarraway
I know I should be angered by this, but I just can't summon the rage.

Maher is pathetic.

4 posted on 10/03/2008 1:33:26 PM PDT by 14erClimb (Sarah Palin: Ronald Reagan in a skirt!)
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To: nickcarraway

...absent too is any ridicule directed at Eastern religions such as Buddhism, Taoism, Shinto, etc...all of which remains popular with Hollywood mystic set.


5 posted on 10/03/2008 1:34:28 PM PDT by americanophile
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To: nickcarraway
I believe there is a special place in Hell for Maher and his kind where eternal torment is a 1,000 fold the normal lot.
6 posted on 10/03/2008 1:38:14 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr ("Now, doggone it, Joe!)
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To: nickcarraway
Some people who don't believe spend an awful lot of time defending and justifying their unbelief. Why is that?

So, if I stop believing, I'll be brilliant and wise and compassionate like Bill Maher? I know plenty of highly intelligent believers, and many ignorant unbelievers who think being atheist means they're smart.

7 posted on 10/03/2008 1:39:30 PM PDT by informavoracious (Oust all incumbents.)
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To: nickcarraway
The plain fact is, religion must die for mankind to live,” Maher says in a melodramatic finish that is as smarmy as any late-night cable TV evangelist.

Goebbels couldn't have said it better in The Eternal Jew. This is revolting propaganda against a basic human right to freedom of religion.

8 posted on 10/03/2008 1:41:16 PM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: dfwgator

I believe the quote was, “Religion make people quit thinking” “In order for mankind to survive, religion must die”


9 posted on 10/03/2008 1:42:12 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: nickcarraway

“That’s it,” Maher tells us. “Grow up or die.”

The calls for “death” are threatening. Atheist supremacists in this world have killed before. Just ask the Russians.


10 posted on 10/03/2008 1:42:29 PM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: 14erClimb

Maher is a very special kind of lowlife. The kind that is just so ridiculous, so stupid, and such a joke that you don’t even get mad that he does things like this. It would be like getting mad at a dog for crapping in the front yard.


11 posted on 10/03/2008 1:44:11 PM PDT by frankiep (Every socialist is a disguised dictator - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: wolfcreek

My point is, did he blast Islam, or did he just pick on Christianity?


12 posted on 10/03/2008 1:44:30 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: nickcarraway

Adding Bill to my prayer list.


13 posted on 10/03/2008 1:44:45 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: dfwgator

Oh, I’m sure it’s only anti-Christian.

Galatians 6:7
Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows.


14 posted on 10/03/2008 1:46:33 PM PDT by MrB (0bama supporters: What's the attraction? The Marxism or the Infanticide?)
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To: Jagdgewehr

Bill need not worry,

God would never force Bill into His presence if Bill chooses to be separated.... forever.


15 posted on 10/03/2008 1:47:47 PM PDT by MrB (0bama supporters: What's the attraction? The Marxism or the Infanticide?)
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To: nickcarraway
What else do we expect from him? Maher is a lost soul and should be prayed for.

The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.

2 Peter 3:9

16 posted on 10/03/2008 1:51:41 PM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: dfwgator
It's anti-religious. The basic idea of the movie, based on the previews and commercial, is Dawkins' Root of All Evil? mixed with Maher's "humor."
17 posted on 10/03/2008 1:52:14 PM PDT by CE2949BB (McCain/Palin 08)
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To: nickcarraway

Sounds like a rehash of the old movie MARJOE.


18 posted on 10/03/2008 1:52:43 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (We're not supporting clean coal --- Joe Biden)
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To: nickcarraway
Anyone familiar with Maher's take-no-prisoners style – his stand-up work, the defunct “Politically Incorrect” TV show and currently HBO's “Real Time with Bill Maher” – knows what to expect.

Like "Cannibal Women in the Avacado Jungle of Death"?

19 posted on 10/03/2008 1:57:11 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: nickcarraway
member of the United Methodist Women.....But she laughed. Several times.

Much of the Spirit of God left the United Methodist Church some time ago.

20 posted on 10/03/2008 1:57:12 PM PDT by tbpiper (Obama/Biden: Instead of Ebony and Ivory, we have Arrogance and Insolence.)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Grow up or die? Is beating your girlfriend grown up, Bill? How about mocking those who tragically die, Bill? Is it grown up to use your D list celebrity status to molest 18 yr old girls at the Playboy Mansion, Bill? And why do you never bash Islam, Bill?


21 posted on 10/03/2008 2:00:37 PM PDT by MiltonFriedmanFan
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To: frankiep

Well said.


22 posted on 10/03/2008 2:02:55 PM PDT by 14erClimb (Sarah Palin: Ronald Reagan in a skirt!)
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To: nickcarraway

Bill Maher started out going to church? I thought he was JEWISH?

I understand he once was arrested for beating his black girlfriend.


23 posted on 10/03/2008 2:04:25 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: MrB

I have seen the commercial a few times, it looks like bits of islam are included.

One scene in the commercial shows an imam saying ‘islam means peace’ then cut scene to a video of a VBIED exploding at a Jewish outpost.


24 posted on 10/03/2008 2:06:12 PM PDT by Chubby
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To: nickcarraway

I don’t see any problem with this. Obviously the guy is off his rocker but I enjoy a good laugh at my own expense every now and then.

OF course there are negative aspects of religion, but that doesnt mean there aren’t overwhelming positives. Someone probably took away his weed and now hes strung out


25 posted on 10/03/2008 2:07:54 PM PDT by buckeye12
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To: nickcarraway

The most rabid of the anti-religious are Homos (such as Maher) since they blame religion for not being accepted by society. For perverts to florish, religion must be weakened.


26 posted on 10/03/2008 2:08:36 PM PDT by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the hippies.)
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To: dfwgator

I haven’t seen the movie yet, but a poster above said that Maher follows a scene showing a pastor urging someone to channel his passion toward God with footage of a suicide bombing. It sounds to me as though he’s going after Islam, Christianity and Judaism. I don’t know about Buddhism, Shintoism or Hinduism. The scenes in the teasers, at least, don’t seem to address them. You could do some funny/awful stuff with Hinduism, the caste system and so-called miracles performed by the gods.

Personally, I’d be kind of scared to go that high-profile with ridicule of Islam. Whatever else Maher is, I guess he’s brave.


27 posted on 10/03/2008 2:12:02 PM PDT by edweena
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To: dfwgator

Bet you 1000 to 1 the creep didn’t attack muzzies.

All mouth no guts.


28 posted on 10/03/2008 2:12:12 PM PDT by Mrs.Z ("...you're a Democrat. You're expected to complain and offer no solutions." Denny Crane)
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To: dfwgator

I plan on seeing it this weekend, I’ll let you know what I think. Now, I’m atheist, but I do celebrate the First Amendment right to believe as you wish, as long as you’re not hurting others in the performance of your religious ‘duties’. And I’m somewhat broad in interpreting that; if you’re a muzzie cab driver, you don’t have the right to search my bags for liquor (yes, it’s virtually guaranteed to contain some.)


29 posted on 10/03/2008 2:15:48 PM PDT by hunter112 (Gov. Palin is ten times the woman Hillary could've hoped to be, if she had stayed a "Goldwater Girl")
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To: nickcarraway

I wouldn’t walk across the street to see this movie even if someone paid me.

If you have to lie to people to make your movie I don’t think that person’s point of view can be taken seriously. Maher admitted that he is a liar and a whore.

******

the irreverent HBO “Real Time” host has a rep for railing against organized religion. (In “Religulous,” he again equates it with a brain disorder and warns religion must die for mankind to survive). So why, in heaven’s name, would Christian, Muslim and Jewish figures all over the globe – not to mention the big-bellied believers at the Truck Stop Ministries in Raleigh, N.C. – willingly go on camera for a mocking film whose title is a mesh of “religion” and “ridiculous?”

“We lied,” Maher fessed up to his, er, sin. “The working title of the movie was ‘A Spiritual Journey,’ which doesn’t sound so threatening. We would not tell them who the interviewer was, and they generally wouldn’t ask.”

Once the camera crew and klieg lights were in place, Maher strolled in. “There were a lot of long faces at that moment, or shocked faces like, ‘Oh my God, you didn’t tell us Satan was doing the interview,’ ” Maher said.

“They could pull their mike off and get up, but that looks bad. If you have such certitude about how wonderful your religion is, why not sit there and defend it? And let’s also say, like everyone else in America, even the religious are media whores.”

http://tinyurl.com/4sjjor


30 posted on 10/03/2008 2:17:48 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: dfwgator

He’s almost certainly in the Rosie O’donnel camp, believing that radical Christianity is more dangerous than radical islam.

You know. A total moron.


31 posted on 10/03/2008 2:21:08 PM PDT by jim35 ("...when the lion and the lamb lie down together, ...we'd better damn sure be the lion")
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To: truthandlife
KING: So you prefer single?

MAHER: “Please, god, no, I'll bargain again with you if you get me out of this one.”

Maher on Larry King:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0808/19/lkl.01.html
(towards the bottom)

Maher takes advantage of God when he needs -— just like all of us.

The only reason he is doing this is TO MAKE MONEY. SHAME ON HIM

32 posted on 10/03/2008 2:23:02 PM PDT by indianyogi
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To: nickcarraway

Oh for pete’s sake...what can we expect?

Romans 1:21 tells us that refusing to acknowledge, or honor, the God of creation constitutes a rejection that actually becomes bilateral.

What could be more satisfying to the ego of man than telling others how foolish they are for believing in a God that is actively hiding from that person doing the telling?


33 posted on 10/03/2008 2:25:18 PM PDT by papertyger (The purpose of American government is supposed to be "TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" for the governed.)
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To: nickcarraway
Maher is the confused and resentful child of a Catholic man who didn't apparently think much of his faith and a Jewish mother who didn't even tell her son that she was Jewish.

He got just enough Christianity to make him know that he was a slime ball, but as many do he channeled that into a hatred of God.

He never fit in, in a religious country, so he rebelled. Now he's reduced to sliming on sluts at Playboy Mansion parties. I hear Hef is having to turn the spigot down on that too.

34 posted on 10/03/2008 2:32:17 PM PDT by SampleMan (Community Organizer: What liberals do when they run out of college, before they run out of Marxism.)
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To: hunter112

If you are an atheist - I need to ask a question.

Just what do atheists believe in? What do they think happens after death? Is this it - this life and nothing else?

How do you explain the millions of flowers, insects, bugs, animals, all different, each with specific abilities to further its life?


35 posted on 10/03/2008 2:53:37 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: nickcarraway
“The plain fact is, religion must die for mankind to live,”

This isn't a "plain fact." It's an imperative. Not only that, but it's, implicitly, a moral imperative. And moral imperatives are ultimately absurdities without God. Really, if God doesn't exist, why should mankind live?
36 posted on 10/03/2008 3:22:37 PM PDT by macamadamia (Life is a continuation of war by other means.)
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To: nickcarraway
Yeah, like I will invest one second of my time, or one penny, in the evil "Bile" Maher.


37 posted on 10/03/2008 4:37:43 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: nickcarraway
The Talmud is an example of religious people engaged in a debate about how God, law and life intersect. It requires you to think about what faith ought to be and how to carry out God's will on earth. The same is true for Aquinas' Summa Theologica. He spent a lifetime thinking about the same issues the rabbis did. But that would not suit atheists like Maher and their one sided cartoonish ridicule of those who believe in God as being either gullible or a bunch of unthinking fanatics. Faith in God liberates the mind rather than enslaves it.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

38 posted on 10/03/2008 5:09:28 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: FormerACLUmember

They call him Flipper, Flipper, faster than lightning, No-one you see, is smarter than he, And we know Flipper, lives in a world full of wonder, Flying there-under, under the sea!

Everyone loves the king of the sea, Ever so kind and gentle is he, Tricks he will do when children appear, And how they laugh when he's near!

They call him Flipper, Flipper, faster than lightning, No-one you see, is smarter than he, And we know Flipper, lives in a world full of wonder, Flying there-under, under the sea!


39 posted on 10/03/2008 5:25:16 PM PDT by tophat9000 (; Bible the Alinsky, Satan was the first communitySaul Per, Read PerorganizerJesus defeated Satan)
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To: tophat9000

lol


40 posted on 10/03/2008 5:26:56 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: nickcarraway; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

41 posted on 10/03/2008 5:30:27 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: nickcarraway
He pushes and pushes. How can anyone possibly believe the Bible? A talking snake? A man swallowed by a big fish? “Complete bull----,” he says.

Talking snakes and man-swallowing fish are more believable than large portions of the liberal canon, including anthropogenic Global Warming and embryonic stem cells holding "great promise."

42 posted on 10/03/2008 5:34:07 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("[Obama acts] as if the very idea of permanent truth is passe, a form of bad taste"-Shelby Steele)
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To: nickcarraway

I’m looking forward to box office receipt numbers.


43 posted on 10/03/2008 5:43:36 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: nickcarraway

Bill Maher: Sad and Bitter Old Man Syndrome


44 posted on 10/03/2008 6:21:52 PM PDT by pray4liberty (The Lord is on the side of the truly righteous.)
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To: nickcarraway
The only thing I have to know about this movie is Bill Maher is involved with it.

Nuff said!

Calling him a waste of humanity is an insult to waste....

45 posted on 10/03/2008 7:14:46 PM PDT by dirtbiker (My Walmart still has 7 copies of "An Inconvenient Truth" on the shelf)
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To: MrB

indeed...

I saw a trailer...The Jesus figure asks Bill: What if you’re wrong? Bill’s answer: “What if YOU’RE wrong...??”

Well ummm Bill, no harm no foul, but again back to the original question: What if YOU’RE wrong Bill?

It’s for eternity Bill.


46 posted on 10/03/2008 7:41:40 PM PDT by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: nickcarraway

I met Maher over the course of a weekend at a wedding 20 or so years ago. He was an unpleasant individual to be around, constantly making jokes at other peoples’ expense and quite taken with himself and his burgeoning celebrity status. I recall him as cruelly intelligent and sarcastic and last saw him with his face in a frisbee sized pile of cocaine.


47 posted on 10/03/2008 8:25:35 PM PDT by Ol' Sox
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To: ClancyJ
I'm not sure at all what happens after death, nobody's come back (as far as I reliably know) to tell us. On one hand, I figure that it would be a waste of human consciousness for all of this to go to nothing, yet, we are the only species on the planet who believe our consciousness, and its survival after death are important. Perhaps that's overestimating its worth somewhat. I guess we'll all just have to see, if there's anything to see.

Darwinian evolution works for me. And it's fine with me that Darwin himself had limitations on what he could understand, other scientists have come forward to advance the theories beyond what he could know or imagine. I don't hold Darwin up to the test that religious people hold their prophets, that either someone is 100% right, or 100% wrong. People know what they are capable of knowing, and others come along and expand on that.

48 posted on 10/03/2008 8:35:40 PM PDT by hunter112 (Gov. Palin is ten times the woman Hillary could've hoped to be, if she had stayed a "Goldwater Girl")
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To: hunter112
"... we are the only species on the planet who believe our consciousness, and its survival after death are important."

And you know that, how?

49 posted on 10/03/2008 8:39:57 PM PDT by airborne (Don't pray that God is on your side. Instead, pray that you are on God's side!)
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To: airborne
And you know that, how?

I guess I'm presuming. Perhaps you have some evidence that apes, dogs, or even bacteria (or anything in between) have a sense that their consciousness is important enough to last beyond physical death of their bodies?

50 posted on 10/03/2008 8:51:23 PM PDT by hunter112 (Gov. Palin is ten times the woman Hillary could've hoped to be, if she had stayed a "Goldwater Girl")
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