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The keys to avoiding poverty
The News & Observer ^ | Jun 27, 2007 | Rick Martinez

Posted on 10/04/2008 8:12:01 AM PDT by george76

A number of readers have taken me to task over my contention ...that most poor people are impoverished by choice. To be clear, I don't mean that one day a person gets up and decides to live in poverty. I believe a person winds up poor because he or she chooses not to succeed.

Truth is, staying above the poverty line is relatively simple. Basically, all that's required is to finish high school, wait until at least age 20 to get married and not have a child out of wedlock. Now how hard is that? Not very, which is why I equate poverty (in most cases) with a conscious set of choices.

William Galston, a former adviser to President Clinton and scholar at the liberal-leaning Brookings Institution, devised that lucid, easy to follow anti-poverty formula, and the data back him up. Fewer than 10 percent of families that follow his blueprint live in poverty, while 79 percent of those who don't follow the three-step plan end up poor.

The value of a high school education is undisputed... However, the role of marriage in avoiding poverty is too often ignored by policy makers and low-income advocates...

That huge oversight must be remedied. The John Edwards' "Two Americas" model of confronting poverty... is outdated and incomplete.

Compared to marriage, the "Two Americas" discussion and its solutions verge on irrelevancy when it comes to creating upward mobility for the poor.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsobserver.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: jobs; johnedwards; poverty; twoamericas; williamgalston
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1 posted on 10/04/2008 8:12:02 AM PDT by george76
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Why is the obvious so hard for some people to grasp? Or accept, is probably closer to the truth. But I guess if we officially acknowledged the obvious, the poverty pimps would be out of business. Good article.


2 posted on 10/04/2008 8:17:36 AM PDT by FrdmLvr ("Stand up, Chuck!")
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Finish school and get established before you have kids. Duh, eight? It seems easy enough to follow if you’ve been raised in a decent household. It was never an option in my house to do anything else. Blame the parents.


3 posted on 10/04/2008 8:20:23 AM PDT by itsPatAmerican
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To: george76

Americans are poor because they choose to live as irresponsible, self-indulgent adolescents. Pretty simple. And then as adolescents they expect the more responsible adults in their lives to bail them out. IN most cases these more responsible adult are taxpayers with whom they are not even acquainted.


4 posted on 10/04/2008 8:21:40 AM PDT by all the best
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To: george76

The key to avoid poverty is to be born with a brain in the USA.


5 posted on 10/04/2008 8:22:02 AM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: george76

The keys to avoiding poverty: Keep it in your pants...both your money and your p—ker!


6 posted on 10/04/2008 8:22:52 AM PDT by TRY ONE (NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
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The keys to avoiding poverty: Keep it in your pants

How long do the Spears girls keep their money? They are terrible role models. My bet is they are both broke in the next 10 years.
7 posted on 10/04/2008 8:28:26 AM PDT by itsPatAmerican
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To: FrdmLvr
Why is the obvious so hard for some people to grasp?

What was left out was a willingness to take risk.

After all, even if one were single and child free and maintaining a lucrative living in an honest position, to prevent personal poverty, one must be willing to risk jail and evade taxes. ; )

Anymore, most will be poor even as productive people whether we want to be or not.

8 posted on 10/04/2008 8:28:34 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: FrdmLvr
Perhaps it's difficult because we don't teach these simple basics. And of course, we don't teach them because it's politically incorrect. After all, it would be deemed racist to suggest one get a HS diploma when (on a % basis) more minorities drop out. And, it would be so old-fashioned to suggest marriage vs shacking up...and after all, what constitutes "marriage" anyway? Lastly, how can we suggest no out-of-wedlock births when even the stars do that - and they aren't poor?

Remember - it was Pontius Pilot who asked the ultimate question..."what is truth" when Truth was standing right in front of him. The obvious is hard to grasp only because we reject truth and embrace the lie of relativism.

9 posted on 10/04/2008 8:30:00 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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Not to be overlooked is: Stay out of jail!
Spending a few years in in prison whether in one term or several, can really wreck a life, financially and emotionally.


10 posted on 10/04/2008 8:30:47 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: george76
I'd add: Avoid disfunction. (alcohol to excess, drugs)

Don't buy things you don't need until you can pay cash for them.

Save something from every paycheck.

Show up for work on time every day.

11 posted on 10/04/2008 8:32:19 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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Basically, all that's required is to finish high school, wait until at least age 20 to get married and not have a child out of wedlock. AND SHOW UP FOR YOUR JOB, ANY JOB, EVERY DAY!
12 posted on 10/04/2008 8:33:11 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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My keys to staying out of poverty:

Finish school even if it’s just high school.

Stay off drugs.

Stay out of jail.

Pay your bills on time.

Develop good work ethics.


13 posted on 10/04/2008 8:34:28 AM PDT by Melinda in TN
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To: george76

There have been poor in the world since the beginning of time and there always will be. Those that want to eliminate the poor have other things in mind and that is basically to enrich themselves......but people don’t look at it that way.


14 posted on 10/04/2008 8:37:56 AM PDT by RC2
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I thought that living as a responsible buyer would be enough. I didn’t count on the government stepping in to be charitable with my money.


15 posted on 10/04/2008 8:38:30 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Paying taxes for bank bailouts is apparently the patriotic thing to do. [/sarc])
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The funny thing is- my middle daughter at 23 is finishing her degree to get licensed as a Special Education/Elementary Ed. teacher and is engaged. She has been engaged for two years and people are always asking her when she is getting married, she tells them she will marry after she finishes school and gets a job. I am amazed at how many people do not seem to understand why she hasn’t already married, and act like her plan doesn’t make sense. I am very proud of her, but wonder at the people that think she should be rushing down the aisle.


16 posted on 10/04/2008 8:44:24 AM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: count-your-change

So is falling off a cliff....that’ll f*ck you up big time.


17 posted on 10/04/2008 8:45:31 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: Melinda in TN

Amen! Also, the marriage factor needs to be considered too. I encouraged my kids that when they get married (one has) to work hard for at least 3 years before starting a family, in order to establish themselves financially, and/or finish school (higher learning). I find financial problems to be one of the biggest strains on a (relatively) new marriage.


18 posted on 10/04/2008 8:50:30 AM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase (In the land of Clinton, where the shadows lie...)
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To: Mashood

True, that’s a good reason to avoid both.


19 posted on 10/04/2008 8:51:58 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Tammy8
I am very proud of her

Well done. You are a good parent. It is so much easier to raise your family once you have established yourself. How do owe stop the epidemic of bad parenting out there? Bad parents who aren't stopping their babies from having babies are causing a cycle of poverty--and then we are asked to foot the bill for their mess!
20 posted on 10/04/2008 8:53:02 AM PDT by itsPatAmerican
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