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Contrary to Internet Rumor, No Court Ruling Yet On Obama / DNC Motion to Dismiss in Berg v. Obama
Obamacrimes.com ^ | 10/04/2008 | EagleUSA

Posted on 10/04/2008 5:48:37 PM PDT by EagleUSA

I received a phone call from Phil J. Berg a few minutes ago. He informed me that a rumor is circulating on the Internet that the Court has ruled on the Motion to Dismiss filed by Senator Obama and the Democratic National Committee in the Berg v. Obama case. Some of the visitors to this website have posted comments claiming the Court has ruled. The comments on this site were written by visitors to the site.

On Mr. Berg's behalf, I am posting this to state clearly the Court has not yet ruled on the Motion to Dismiss in Berg v. Obama.

Here's the status:

1. Last week Senator Obama and the Democratic National Committee filed a Motion to Dismiss the Berg v. Obama lawsuit. 2. On Monday, Mr. Berg filed an answer requesting that the suit not be dismissed and that the Court order production of documents proving Senator Obama's consitutional qualifications to serve as President of The United States. 3. As of 1 AM EST today, October 2nd, 2008, the Court has not ruled on the Motion for Dismissal in Berg v. Obama.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: berg; bergvobama; birthcertificate; certifigate; citizen; citizenship; fraud; lawsuit; lies; obama; passport; philberg; philipberg; qualifications
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The beat goes on -- Obama is trying to get this incriminating scenario thrown out. He and his thugs continue to REFUSE to produce valid, legal documentation of his qualification to run for president. Speaks volumes. This is not over yet.
1 posted on 10/04/2008 5:48:37 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA
The beat goes on -- Obama is trying to get this incriminating scenario thrown out. He and his thugs continue to REFUSE to produce valid, legal documentation of his qualification to run for president. Speaks volumes. This is not over yet.

This could be an issue that Palin should push. She could say something like "Barak Obama has been sued by xxx on the grounds that he's not an American citizen because he won't produce a birth certificate. Now this may be a silly lawsuit, but there's one way to prove it...here's my birth certificate Mr. Obama....where's yours?

2 posted on 10/04/2008 5:51:53 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: EagleUSA

I can’t believe there isn’t a state where Obama or anyone has to prove their eligibility to run.

We only need one state that could be sued to prove that he is eligible.


3 posted on 10/04/2008 5:52:28 PM PDT by Hang'emAll (WE WILL NOT DISARM!!!)
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To: DouglasKC

She’s already catching hell for saying Obama pals around with terrorists (Ayers) which is demonstrably provable. If she were to challenge his citizenship can you imagine the torrent of abuse she would receive? Not worth it.


4 posted on 10/04/2008 5:55:05 PM PDT by saganite (Obama is a political STD)
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To: Hang'emAll

One doesn’t have to be ‘eligible’ to run for president, only to serve as president. There’s nothing illegal here.

I think the least the court will do is say - wait until, and if, he’s elected.


5 posted on 10/04/2008 5:55:12 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: EagleUSA

As a side issue, his refusal to produce said documents shows that he is a terrible leader. A decent leader might have let this go on for a bit, but then produced the documents (a bit of rope-adope).

But this has gone well past that point. If he produces the documents now he has shown a willingness to let little problems grow into very big problems by ignoring them. That is very poor judgement.

Will he also show such poor judgement on the international stage, where such incompetence can have much more far-reaching implications? So far, I have seen nothing to indicate that he won’t do exactly the same thing in diplomacy.


6 posted on 10/04/2008 5:56:42 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: EagleUSA

I’m proud of FR for repeatedly squelching threads making the false claims.


7 posted on 10/04/2008 5:59:29 PM PDT by Soliton (> 100)
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To: saganite

“If she were to challenge his citizenship can you imagine the torrent of abuse she would receive? Not worth it.”

Oh yes it is worth it. This is our last chance. Sarah should hit him now and hard.


8 posted on 10/04/2008 6:01:24 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (A liberal can never stand up like a man and admit his true beliefs.)
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To: EagleUSA
I've seen some on usenet and didn't want to delurk to set them straight because I don't know if obamacrimes is Berg's official page. I mean it doesn't sound like a link the opposition would accept plus it's my understanding Berg is a Democrat who supported Hillary.

People are asking, "where is the court link?"

Is there one or do you have to call the courts there?

Was it ever posted in a reputable newspaper?

I expect him to slither out of it and don't expect it to go anywhere. If it's true, the public has a right to know, not that many care.

9 posted on 10/04/2008 6:01:36 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: EagleUSA
I heard an excellent interview yesterday am on Quinn and Rose with Berg. He is absolutely sure that the citizenship is questionable and commenting on the recent involvement by the DNC felt the Court would rule in his favor on the motion to dismiss. Thereby compelling the 0bama campaign to provide documents in their defense.
10 posted on 10/04/2008 6:01:49 PM PDT by Born In America (Affirmative action is no way to elect a President, now or ever....)
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To: DouglasKC

exactly
all he would have to do is say this is my birth certificate

but no he has a lawyer from CAIR(law wing of terrorists sympathizers) and now the DNC is going to court to stop this then all I can think is there something incriminating to obama.

why hasn;t some law enforcement looked into this surely there has to be proof that one has to be an American before they run for this position

I have always believed nothing to hide then shot it, he goes to all this to stop it then there is something to hide

I only hope Berg does not give in and I hope the GOP gets on live cameras, not recorded so the media edit it and state where is obama’s B/C and why has he gone to court to stop this.
Why hire a lawyer

even if nothing comes of this then it has to be out there to put this in the minds of the voter

Sunday morning shows would be a great place for the GOP to say this


11 posted on 10/04/2008 6:01:59 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick Ma sham marriage - -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Soliton

all obama has to do is show it.

No he has gone to great lengths to stop this

WHY????????????????????????????

Also his lawyer is from CAIR, so no obama runs to CAIR for help.
another connection


12 posted on 10/04/2008 6:04:01 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick Ma sham marriage - -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: EagleUSA

Good. Philip Berg can still win his court case against Obama!


13 posted on 10/04/2008 6:04:18 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (A liberal can never stand up like a man and admit his true beliefs.)
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To: EagleUSA

This has to be out there all over the media

what is being covered up and why go to great lengths?

WHY?????/

What ever happens this cannot be forgot about but all media need to hear about this


14 posted on 10/04/2008 6:05:57 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick Ma sham marriage - -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: D-fendr

Too dangerous a precedent. . .while there will pobably by ‘riots’ whether he ‘wins’ OR loses (either reason will do) - this unfolding would move this country to a riotious free-fall. Besides; there is only one reason to be on ballot and that is the assumption that you can/will win. So, seems ‘intent’ is a factor that cannot be considered.


15 posted on 10/04/2008 6:06:58 PM PDT by cricket (America's Freedom Rings! Thank You ~ U..S.A. Military~)
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To: saganite

She’s already catching hell for saying Obama pals around with terrorists (Ayers) which is demonstrably provable. If she were to challenge his citizenship can you imagine the torrent of abuse she would receive? Not worth it.

************************************

Dude, he’s hardly Mother Theresa, or one above suspicion.

Is he above the law? Which one of us wouldn’t have to bend over backward to get a passport replaced? How much MORE careful should we be about WHO we allow even close to the Presidency?


16 posted on 10/04/2008 6:07:22 PM PDT by ROTB (Our Constitution [is] for a [Christian] people. It is wholly inadequate [for] any other. -John Adams)
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To: All

BETWEEN THE ILLEGAL DONATIONS AND THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE ISSUE
MAYBE TIME TO FREEP THE FEC

How to Contact the Office of Inspector General:
Call Mail
1-202-694-1015 Federal Election Commission
1-800-424-9530 Office of Inspector General
Fax 999 E Street, NW
1-202-501-8134 Room 940
E-mail Washington, DC 20463
oig@fec.gov

How to Contact the Federal Election Commission:
Call Mail
1-800-424-9530 Federal Election Commission
1-202-694-1100 (Washington, DC) 999 E Street, NW
1-202-219-3336 (Hearing Impaired) Washington, DC 20463


17 posted on 10/04/2008 6:07:46 PM PDT by mouse1 ("Say it aint so joe")
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Will he also show such poor judgement on the international stage, where such incompetence can have much more far-reaching implications? So far, I have seen nothing to indicate that he won’t do exactly the same thing in diplomacy.”

He’ll vote PRESENT......


18 posted on 10/04/2008 6:07:57 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: EagleUSA
Good evening. Is this document a forgery?

Motion Berg v Obama

I can see how someone could be fooled...

5.56mm

19 posted on 10/04/2008 6:09:49 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: manc

“WHY?????”
Because the script says so.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22hillary+clinton+2008+for+dummies%22


20 posted on 10/04/2008 6:09:52 PM PDT by VlPu
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To: manc
Also his lawyer is from CAIR

Do you have a link for this statement?

21 posted on 10/04/2008 6:10:09 PM PDT by Soliton (> 100)
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To: manc

what is being covered up and why go to great lengths?...........

It is obvious that the MSM want to cover this up.

I was speaking with a friend about the election, pro McCain, and he did not know about this because not everyone uses the Internet like we do.

So where are the 527’s on this issue and others. They must be starting soon. I cannot believe no one is coming to McCain-Palin’s aid with all the bull that is on Obama.


22 posted on 10/04/2008 6:10:41 PM PDT by Hang'emAll (WE WILL NOT DISARM!!!)
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To: cricket

this unfolding would move this country to a riotious free-fall.

**************

Even chemo causes a “freefall” of hair before the cure.

Pursue justice man. Why does Obama get another set of rules? Screw the cost. Justice!


23 posted on 10/04/2008 6:10:49 PM PDT by ROTB (Our Constitution [is] for a [Christian] people. It is wholly inadequate [for] any other. -John Adams)
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To: EagleUSA

So what happens if he isn’t a citizen at this late date —a new election date set as the DNC gets a new candidate

Talk about a crisis in this country


24 posted on 10/04/2008 6:11:59 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: uncbob
So what happens if he isn’t a citizen at this late date —a new election date set as the DNC gets a new candidate

The election goes forward and if he cannot prove he is eligible to take the office, then the VP takes the office.

25 posted on 10/04/2008 6:13:48 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Soliton

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2096874/posts
I just did a quick google but this is the first link at the top but there are many

I typed in obama get CAIR lawyer in berg lawsuit

Hope this helps


26 posted on 10/04/2008 6:14:05 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick Ma sham marriage - -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: EagleUSA
Here is my question. If you don't have to prove you are eligible to 'run' for the Presidency...then what happens (hypothetically) if 0bama wins and is found not be eligible? Does Biden take office? Does it require an impeachment (ie, high crime or misdemeanor)? Why is this being so dismissed if his elegibility cannot proven now? What would would/could be done after the election?
27 posted on 10/04/2008 6:14:36 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (The 0bama Youth Choir, Making Joyous Noise Unto 0bama, From Whom All Glories Flow.)
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To: reasonisfaith
Good. Philip Berg can still win his court case against Obama!

Well, birds still fly. . .

28 posted on 10/04/2008 6:16:48 PM PDT by cricket (America's Freedom Rings! Thank You ~ U..S.A. Military~)
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To: EagleUSA

Kenya Daily News

Obama Child Born

August 4, 1961 (Kenya) - Today, Barack Hussein Obama announced the birth of his child today in Kenya. Mr. & Mrs. Obama were married six months ago in Hawaii. They met in a Russian language class while attending the University of Hawaii.
Barack 0bama, Jr.

29 posted on 10/04/2008 6:18:27 PM PDT by Brown Deer
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To: cricket

But until he wins there is no violation to be considered.

This is the same point the judge made concerning a similar challenge to McCain.


30 posted on 10/04/2008 6:18:36 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Hang'emAll

You know it’s funny you say that as I have met many many people who have neevr heard about AYERS, .
A woman who is voting for obama at he docs office told me that I was making it up.
Told her to go home and type in on her computer

Many have no heard about him getting a CAIR lawyer so he doesn’t have to show his birth certificate.

Many think he never heard the racist stuff Wright said or even obama saying typical white people or greedy white folk

imagine if Palin said greedy black folk of just a typical black person

you can bet your house the media would never let that drop

republicans need to say all this on live camera so it can’t be edited.

The public needs to know how dangerous and racist , sexist obama is.
Not fogetting his angry racist wife


31 posted on 10/04/2008 6:20:21 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick Ma sham marriage - -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: M Kehoe

If the Justia.com web site is legit the document is posted there.
Maybe the person purporting to represent Berg is a faker.


32 posted on 10/04/2008 6:23:20 PM PDT by em2vn
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To: cricket

There’s no denying it.


33 posted on 10/04/2008 6:25:40 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (A liberal can never stand up like a man and admit his true beliefs.)
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To: P-Marlowe
The election goes forward and if he cannot prove he is eligible to take the office, then the VP takes the office.

Voters have the right to know at the time they cast their ballot that their candidate is eligible for office under the requirements of the Constitution. I do not understand why the FEC is not actively investigating the qualifications of ALL the candidates---including OBAMA. They should be the clearing house to insure that the eligibility requirement has been met. By the way, I did send a message to the FEC to express this concern.

34 posted on 10/04/2008 6:31:38 PM PDT by Faith
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To: EagleUSA

Does anyone still believe that Obama is a US citizen? If so, why? What would be his reasons for not complying with the court?


35 posted on 10/04/2008 6:36:34 PM PDT by pallis
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To: manc
I think he's hiding his birth certificate because it says moslum on it. It's either that or he's not a citizen.
36 posted on 10/04/2008 6:44:18 PM PDT by peeps36 ( Al Gore Is A Big Fat Lying Hypocrite. He Pollutes The Air By Opening His Big Mouth)
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To: Faith
Voters have the right to know at the time they cast their ballot that their candidate is eligible for office under the requirements of the Constitution.

No they do not.

The Constitution does not prohibit anyone from running for president merely because they are not qualified. The constitution merely prohibits someone who is not qualified from taking the office.

The Voters have no rights to any information regarding a candidate. They do not have a "right" to know his age, his birthplace, his sex, his height, his weight or his criminal record.

37 posted on 10/04/2008 6:45:45 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: EagleUSA

He won’t produce an actual document from the state of Hawaii? He won’t produce his college transcripts? What in the hell is this guy hiding?


38 posted on 10/04/2008 6:45:54 PM PDT by Illinois Rep
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To: Illinois Rep
There is enough that we do know about him that is incriminating and should disqualify him from any public office. What don't we know???? Where are the private investigators? Employers hire PIs before they hire someone and now we are going to have a C in C that is a threat to our very existence. Aren't there any PIs who are also freepers?
39 posted on 10/04/2008 7:33:14 PM PDT by madinmadtown
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To: EagleUSA
Did you have a chance to check the link in post 19? If the document is true, then Mr. Berg should be very happy. Kindly let us know what he says.

5.56mm

40 posted on 10/04/2008 7:34:07 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: reasonisfaith
I believe there is a conspiracy here; one mounted by Obama and his sychophants. . .find it odd and 'troubling' that he is using Jeffrey Sandler/CAIR; find it odd; that the 'bottom line' has been written by fact check; owned/supported. ..whatever. . .by Annenberg Foundation/Chicago and Obama-connected.

There is so much left to the 'dark' here re Obama that is defies Reason.

Which is not to say; that REASON here, will prevail. I hope it does; but. . .Obama has a 'deep reach' to enabling resources; that have yet to be explained.

41 posted on 10/04/2008 7:37:26 PM PDT by cricket (America's Freedom Rings! Thank You ~ U..S.A. Military~)
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To: peeps36

or maybe even says mohammed

either way he’s hiding something to go to all this


42 posted on 10/04/2008 7:37:42 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick Ma sham marriage - -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: madinmadtown

I can’t believe a brother from Chicago can’t be paid off to tell us the dirt on Obama when he was a street agitator...


43 posted on 10/04/2008 7:38:47 PM PDT by Illinois Rep
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To: Illinois Rep

so no college either

for the love of this country Obama needs to be exposed so much that even the biggest loon out there won’t vote for hiim


44 posted on 10/04/2008 7:39:31 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick Ma sham marriage - -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: D-fendr
Well; interesting. Seems to me the intent/outcome here should make for 'special consideration'. . .or SOMEthing! At the least, this could get more public attention; legitimate attention; so that he candidacy could assume 'proportion'. But of course, that is not the case and so we have a man; who already imagines a success of Leadership. We have only to look at his plane; his logo; his marketing; his 'culture of personality' so invited.

And of course, why mention his arrogance and political ruthlessness. . .

45 posted on 10/04/2008 7:41:11 PM PDT by cricket (America's Freedom Rings! Thank You ~ U..S.A. Military~)
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To: EagleUSA

The title of this thread pisses me off. Why is this an internet rumor? If a forged document from a non-existing source (Lucy Ramirez?) and be all over the MSM then why is this story not being covered? (I do know the answer)


46 posted on 10/04/2008 7:42:16 PM PDT by TruthWillWin
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To: M Kehoe
Did you have a chance to check the link in post 19? If the document is true, then Mr. Berg should be very happy. Kindly let us know what he says.

It's the document that Berg provided to the judge asking him to sign it. Until the judge signs it, it is not legal.

47 posted on 10/04/2008 7:49:59 PM PDT by Family Guy (I disagree with what you said, but I'll defend to the death your right to shut up.)
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To: Aliska

Timeline of the Berg case:

http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-paedce/case_no-2:2008cv04083/case_id-281573/


48 posted on 10/04/2008 7:54:33 PM PDT by mimi from mi
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To: ROTB
Agree. My thoughts here have always allowed room for Obama to ride this horse; gambling. ..(he IS a gambler, we know) that the stakes here will be too great to pursue and that there will be covert 'appeasement' and he will be our illigitimate President.

Of course; the Dems already created that 'other' myth; so as to protect them from their own machinations; that myth, now written and etched in American's 'consciousness'. . .that the Repubs stole the election from the real Dem winner; Algore. . .

And so, the Constitution; as a 'living,breathing' Document; will take a giant breath here and exhale a 'kinder, gentler' interpretation. . .if this IS challenged; post Election.

49 posted on 10/04/2008 7:56:29 PM PDT by cricket (America's Freedom Rings! Thank You ~ U..S.A. Military~)
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To: EagleUSA
If he is not a citizen, would that make him an illegal alien? Can an illegal alien be a US senator?
50 posted on 10/04/2008 8:10:55 PM PDT by hiho hiho
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