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Freddie and Fannie compilation of history and facts (VANITY)
my own two cents | 10/4/2008 | surfer

Posted on 10/04/2008 8:57:42 PM PDT by surfer

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I am sick of hearing all the deflection to deregulation when the core of our melt-down was Freddie and Fannie and their outrageous lending practices supported and protected by Frank, Dodd, and Schumer.

If I have made any mistakes please clear them up for me with your comments. Thanks for reading.

1 posted on 10/04/2008 8:57:43 PM PDT by surfer
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To: surfer

You left off clinton - he pressured banks.


2 posted on 10/04/2008 9:08:35 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: surfer

Here’s a new on on the subject; it’s new to me anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usvG-s_Ssb0


3 posted on 10/04/2008 9:15:05 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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Hey Brother, Thank you for the headlines! You'll never see this reported on by the MSM, for if they did, you can bet that Obama's goose would be cooked, and the same could be said of every Democrap in both the house and the senate.

But I'm afraid that none of this matters now, because the majority of our elected Republicans are far too interested in just getting along with the Dems than standing up and pointing the finger where it should be.

Also,there are far too many apathetic Americans out there who live only for NASCAR, or either the Life Time channel, and they hear a sound bite by one of the MSM, and that's all they will ever know about anything going on outside their little world.

And with an electorate like that, what hope do we have?

4 posted on 10/04/2008 9:18:52 PM PDT by Hillarys nightmare (So Proud to be living in "Jesus Land" ! Don't you wish everyone did?)
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To: presently no screen name

Thanks for the comment. The Clinton reference is in there. ACORN actually had much of a stronger impact forcing banks to make the bad loans and ACORN did it with an attorney who name is Obama.


5 posted on 10/04/2008 9:35:23 PM PDT by surfer
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To: surfer

Barney Frank and fannie mentioned together is a scary thought. :<(


6 posted on 10/04/2008 9:35:39 PM PDT by boycott
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To: surfer
Our talking points should reflect that it was not deregulation but re-regulation,namely the CRA and its revocation of standard loan practice.BTW,I love the graphs on “Burning Down the House”,does anyone have a “works cited”for that video,they`re visual and easy to follow,they`d be good for sound bites.
7 posted on 10/04/2008 9:36:45 PM PDT by nomad
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To: surfer

Consider your editorial peer reviewed.

It passes muster.


8 posted on 10/04/2008 9:37:10 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: boycott

LOL...well you know Barney will be behind you all the way!


9 posted on 10/04/2008 9:44:34 PM PDT by surfer
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To: surfer

The Fox news channel covered this earlier in the evening, some professor-like man talking to the guy whose hour, or half-hour it was...covered all the bases you covered here, from FDR, LBJ, Carter, right up the line. The mystery is why would the financial institutions buy all these risky mortgages, apparently group them together, and sell? them again in increasingly larger groupings of mortgages...and sell them to who? And why? Why buy mortgages that were rated at something like 50% chance they’d fail? And who would buy ‘em? Shrug.


10 posted on 10/04/2008 9:51:56 PM PDT by Retch_Sweeney (Men for whom God is dead worship on another...Crews maybe)
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To: Retch_Sweeney

The bundle is a way of mixing different grade paper.

For example you can bundle low risk mortgages with high risk mortgages to create a blended value and risk.

The biggest issue is that people like Reins thought that property was such a good investment that the risk ratio for these instruments only needed to be 2%. Huge mistake.

They also didn’t account for speculators driving up new building and thus creating a surplus of homes in many markets this ultimately helped the bubble to pop and as soon as you have a home that is worth less than the mortgage and you have no down payment at stake you are now basically in the same position as a renter so you might as well leave and pay less for more somewhere else.

It amazes me that we continue to repeat history. Sheeple, sheeple, sheeple.


11 posted on 10/04/2008 10:09:49 PM PDT by surfer
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You see evidence of this with homes marked “below county appraisal” and “for sale less than the purchase price”. People are scrambling to get out of their properties and into cheaper houses.

Right now it is a buyer’s market and a lot of people are getting good deals.


12 posted on 10/05/2008 1:32:06 AM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: surfer

Linking this to the Timeline Project / Link List of Bailout History

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2093845/posts


13 posted on 10/05/2008 4:19:24 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (BO Change is BS Change. A big Zero Change to help Ayers and Raines.)
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To: surfer

Why this isn’t shouted from the roofs over and over - I’ll never understand. But you are doing your part - so thank you!


14 posted on 10/05/2008 5:02:25 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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Since McCain has no cred on the economy, can Palin the outsider start hammering on this stuff, or are they both shifting to Obama character issues?


15 posted on 10/05/2008 5:13:52 AM PDT by GnuHere
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To: Sparkles

PING


16 posted on 10/05/2008 5:31:08 AM PDT by tazman3
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To: surfer
I am sick of hearing all the deflection to deregulation when the core of our melt-down was Freddie and Fannie and their outrageous lending practices...

Not defending Fannie/Freddie nor any of the Dims who enabled their fiscal tomfoolery, but there are other, maybe greater influences in the subprime mess, to wit----->Investment Banks Provided Subprime Lenders with Critical Funding.

17 posted on 10/05/2008 11:49:05 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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Hi FGS,

Thanks for your comment. I agree there are many factors however if you look at the entire picture of cause and effect and remove the corrupt activities specifically of Frank and crew and Fannie/Freddie then none of this meltdown would have happened.

Ok if you don’t want to take that road then look at the calls for oversight,etc on Fannie/Freddie then if that was allowed to happen then this crisis would have been much less.

Then you add in the fact that we caught Freddie/Fannie red-handed cooking their books (and only god knows why the SEC is still investigating - I can give you a clue - too many people in Congress have their hands dirty) and yet we still do not provide oversight to this quasi-private company.

Regardless of the other factors - Freddie and Fannie are absolutely critical to how this financial mess occurred. This debacle dwarfs anything we have ever seen before and it will take decades to reverse this and in fact the more legislation we try to fix this will only prolong the agony around it.


18 posted on 10/05/2008 12:21:09 PM PDT by surfer
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To: surfer

See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exxVZTKq1vA

See also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZVw3no2A4 for a really good 10 minute video about the problem.

Demoncrats - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs


19 posted on 10/05/2008 12:23:47 PM PDT by narses (Obama and Osama both have friends who bombed the Pentagon.)
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Regardless of the other factors - Freddie and Fannie are absolutely critical to how this financial mess occurred.

Doesn't sound like you read the article I linked. In case you haven't noticed, there have been several mega failures, that due to the amounts of $'s involved were most likely not related to the two GSE's problems. BUT, were caused by essentially the same problem - loans going south. The investment bankers have a lot more at stake than the GSE's because they have considerably more exposure. Not just in MBS's but derivatives also - which is the REAL killer. THAT'S who this bailout/rescue/boondoogle was designed to help - IMO of course.

20 posted on 10/05/2008 12:44:39 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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