Thats why I have taken to flying this flag in front of my house.
Posted on 10/05/2008 7:14:35 AM PDT by pennboricua
Guys, relax on this voter fraud philly stuff.
Kerry came out of Philly with a 4 to 1 advantage and only got the state by 140k ish votes, and that was with everything and the kitchen sink working in this state for him. Gore did the same thing and won by 205k votes.
Fauxbama does not have everything and the kitchen sink behind him... The state machine is only doing token efforts because Rendell’s in the bag for Hillary, and Fauxbama doesn’t have the blue collar support. I see no way Fauxbama takes PA.
Which even makes the polls that show Obama winning that state even more suspect. Thanks LA Slimes for accidently stepping into the truth about the Drive By Media polls.
The polls are jokes at this point... the idea that either candidate on their worst or best day would win or lose PA by 15 points like the Qunnipac poll or whatever had for PA last week, is beyond any sort of credibility, the one that listed it 7 points a few days earlier from another outfit was just as laughable.
The calculus pointing the way to an Obama win right now is the stock market and the public perception of the economy. Look at how the swings in the polls mirror the swings in the economic situation. The Obama surge in the polls tracks the tanking of the stock market. McCain is taking the hit because the public perceives his is the party "in power" and is somehow responsible for the economy (never mind the 'Rat-led Congress). Obama benefits from misery (which is always the case with Marxists).
I don’t think so, there were some major rumours flying around about him and some local Roanoke weathermen a few years ago.
I don’t know, maybe the fact that he is in one of the most conservative districts in the nation. That might have something to do with it. Someone will beat him sooner or later.
Lets’ have some frank talk about Obama and Odinga.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QcpdUtxNQ
How about Obama openly campaigning for his communist cousin Odinga who signed a pact with Muslims to enact Sharia Law if elected and started riots when he lost. Obama campaigned for an openly Anti-American candidate in a foreign country in 2006 at taxpayer expense.
I have long believed that some polls are simply skewed so as to discourage people from voting for a particular candidate. If you can convince someone that their vote is in vain, you are half-way to convincing that person not to vote. I tune out polls and do my duty. Paying to much attention to poll numbers is a road to madness, anyway.
Is that the case? Is Redell’s lack of enthusiasm really that evident. I’m concerned that this time there will actually be enthusiasm for Obama in Philadelphia, as opposed to Kerry who was just going through the motions.
Yes, its that evident. Rendell spent a year doing nothing but campaigning for Hillary, I mean literally was not doing anything else for a year. Word is, he was promised a cabinet post by Hillary in exchange, he stated many times in the primaries that Fauxbama was a poor candidate.. now he only gives him token almost back handed “support” similar to what you hear out of Hillary and Bubba’s mouths when they are “supporting” him.
Fauxbama goes down in 08, Hillary is the 12 nominee, and Rendell will make sure that he does his part to ensure this.
I am sure there is enthusiasm in Philly, but its not by the people Fauxbama MUST win to take the state. He’s got more support from the blacks and the kids, but that’s really it.. hes down everywhere else, and he can’t win the state with that.
This is the state that polled Even during the primaries and hillary spanked him by 9 points... This is the state where union leaders told Hillary if she wanted their support she had to PROMISE not to put Fauxbama on the ticket! Now those same leaders are trying to sell him, they don’t believe in him and their members aren’t buying him.
He’s got problems on the ground in PA, make no mistake about it folks. THis is the weakest democratic candidate as far as PA is concerned that I have seen since moving here. The support just isn’t there. And its not just PA, the problems are across the rust/coal belt.
No one can predict the future, obviously, but I see NOTHING on the ground that remotely makes me believe that Fauxbama can pull of a win here, none.
Obviously the financial crisis certainly doesn’t help things, and could change things, but I just don’t see it. PA is a major hunting, pro life and blue collar state, we love God, Life and Guns, and we don’t take kindly to fancy talkers who’ve never gotten a fingernail dirty or done anything of relevance telling us we’re bitter because we believe in those things.
Fauxbama certainly will win Philly region, any dem will, but Kerry got that region 4 to 1, and only won by 140k votes when the rest of the state voted.. I don’t see Fauxbama coming out of that region with those sorts of numbers, or holding on.
I feel the most confortable I’ve felt in a presidential election in a long time in PA. Now I could wake up with egg on my face, its happened before... but not once in this cycle have I doubted that PA is lost to the dems.. once Fauxbama was the nominee this state was done for them. Hillary would have carried it and probably reversed the long standing trend to republican voting some.. Fauxbama... no way.
Re: your post 70—from your lips to God’s ear.
What you say makes a lot of sense to me.
FWIW, I am in southern Delaware. On my cul-de-sac there are seven homes.
Five have McCain-Palin signs, including mine.
Am I blessed, or what?!!
Thanks for the most thorough reply I’ve received on this forum. I hope you’re right.
Any reports from NOVA. I live between DC and Richmond. I drove through a neighborhood yesterday known to be populated by older FDR-type democrats.
Three signs for McCain-Palin. Zero signs for O'Biden
I was recently rushing my words trying to say Obama-Biden, and out came O'Biden. Works for me!
We did have a big turn out at Mary Washington University. The event was supposed to start at 05:15. I saw the entourage bus and motorcade come off of I-95 at 06:45. We had a downpour of rain, so folks were outside, wet and miserable.
I have not heard one word locally from attendees since the event. Some hype in the local paper. Not sure if people went because they were for O'Biden, or just wanting to be part of the event.
“I don’t know, maybe the fact that he is in one of the most conservative districts in the nation. “
The Fightin’ Ninth is hardly one of the most conservative districts in the nation. Traditional, yes. But Boucher’s serving his 13th term and is very well liked there. I suspect the seat is his as long as he wants it.
McCain signs are stolen as soon as they are put up in some areas, but that’s every election. Political discourse is only allowed if you are a democrat opposing a republican, come on you know that.
My wife and I got our signs yesterday and as I put it in the yard, I asked her how long do you think it’ll last? We both think under a week. Fauxbama supporters already had ripped out the ones on public land within hours of them being posted.
It just comes with the territory.
Thats why I have taken to flying this flag in front of my house.
Instead of McCain-Palin signs that turn folks off, we promote Alaska visuals and themes, and in turn take opportunities to educate on the values of Gov. Palin.
I was a member of the Aero Club and was on base at Elmendorf where those F-15s were based.
Situated just a few miles north of downtown Anchorage, residents could watch arriving flights of four, come right down the runway at altitude east-bound, then one by one break left toward downwind into long trail for landing.
I was there again this summer, and it was just like when I first saw it 25 years ago.
That F-15 is one enduring airframe.
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