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Posted on 10/05/2008 11:45:08 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3
I am doing this, mostly to like-mindeds though, because the Obamites I know are pretty secure in their decision. I also want to treat them the way I want to be treated, with respect. No matter what they send me about the greatness of Obama, it won't affect me either.
I believe Hannity has a show tonight about Obama's connections -- people should tell their family and friends to watch it.
Well, you have me stumped, I'm afraid. I just listened to the Governor's comments a third time, and I can't see how anything she's said isn't something that should have been said a very long time ago.
Are you saying the McCain campaign is desperate based on the reaction of the Annointed Media News Readers? Can you tell me some better gauge of the effectiveness of a line of rhetoric used against the Democrats then their becoming angry?
Don't the American people have a right to walk into the polls with their eyes open?
Good ideas. The best campaigns are grass roots. The best of the grass roots campaigns require folks to get out of their computer chairs and go door-to-door in their neighborhoods. Unfortunately, way too many people won’t get out of their chairs.
Bless you. I hope and pray you are right! I really, really do.
I'm reminded of the tack that Bush 41 took against Bill Clinton in 1992. Clinton had legions of unsavory characters in his past and myriads of credibility issues. In the end it didn't matter. The economy was bad, and people wanted "change". So they voted for the young guy who said all the right nonsense. Of course, the addition of Perot in the race that year hurt Bush more than Clinton. It can be credibly argued that if it weren't for Ross Perot, Clinton would not have been elected in 1992.
The Perot factor aside, I still see a lot of similarities between this election and 1992. I remember volunteering at a Michigan Right to Life Get out the Vote phonathon. I was calling Michigan pro-life voters to get them to vote for Bush 41. Keep in mind: A) that Bush 41 had won Michigan in 1988 (riding on the huge coattails of Reagan and winning the support of Michigan's legendary Reagan Democrats) and B) that these were self-identified pro-life voters. After that night, I knew in my gut that the election was lost. One person after another told me that the economy was hurting so badly that they were going to vote for Clinton. Besides that, they didn't think Bush 41 was all that pro-life in the first place because look at that jerk Souter who he appointed to the Supreme Court.
That experience taught me two things. First, if the Republican Party ever abandons the pro-lifers, they can kiss goodbye any chance of winning a national election. Many blue collar conscientious values voters vote against their immediate economic interests in order to support pro-life Republicans. Second, I learned that when the economy is really really bad, these voters will find some way to bypass their consciences and vote for the Democrats or just sit the election out all together. They'll say, "he's not really all that pro-life anyway and besides, they'll never be able to overturn Roe, so what's the point?"
Bush 41 knew that he was losing on the economic issues to Clinton, and so the waning days of his campaign focused repeatedly on Clinton's character. I remember the TV ads in Michigan. Bush's ads were funny "you can't really trust him" spots with ordinary voters making pointed humorous comments about Clinton's used-car salesman persona. Clinton's ads were just the opposite. They were like the "Morning in America" ads -- one of them ended on a lovely image of a gun sitting on a tractor with a huge American flag behind him. They were all "Don't Stop Thinking About Tomorrow" feel good "Yes We Can" type of ads. They were very very effective. Look at the difference between McCain and Obama's ads. Obama is skating in on his "Hope" and "Yes We Can" b.s. McCain's ads come across as the South Park guys taking very humorous potshots at the Hope guy. Again, Bush 41 did the same thing to Clinton, and Bush 41's Clinton attack ads were funny too -- though not as funny as "The One" ad that McCain ran. In the end it didn't matter how funny or how incisive Bush 41's ads were. Clinton won by sailing over it all to victory. I'm afraid that we might be witnessing the same phenomenon in this election.
On a positive note, I don't think an Obama victory will irreparably harm the bright future that I hope and pray Sarah Palin will have in national politics. I have a funny feeling that the real battle in this election is between Barack Obama and Sarah Palin. And if it's not resolved for once and for all on November 5th, it will be continued in 2012.
In 1995, State Senator Alice Palmer introduced her chosen successor, Barack Obama, to a few of the district’s influential liberals at the home of two well known figures on the local left: William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn.
Sarah has the msm absolutely desperate and it ain’t pretty.
CNN is airing a “truth squad” every hour that takes up for Obama/Ayers.
ABC’s George Stephanopoulos asked Obama about Obama’s relationship with William Ayers, the unrepentant former member of the Weather Underground.
“An early organizing meeting for your state Senate campaign was held at his house, and your campaign has said you are friendly,” Stephanopoulos said to Obama. “Can you explain that relationship for the voters, and explain to Democrats why it won’t be a problem?”
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2000...In addition to his professoship, Ayers is The Woods Fund board chairman, and a young state senator, who like Ayers is living in Chicago’s Hyde Park neighborhood, is a fellow board member—that person of course is Barack Obama. Why any organization would have Ayers serving on their board (he’s not chairman any more, but Ayers is still on The Woods Fund board), is astonishing to me and any other person with common sense. And who’d want to serve with him? That year, Ayers and Obama (who should’ve abstained) voted to invest $1 million in Woods Fund money into a firm run by a former boss of the then-state senator, Allison Davis. In a different business venture, Davis partnered with Tony Rezko.
In 2001, Ayers gave a small donation to Obama’s campaign fund, $200.
That same year, ironically in comments published on September 11, 2001, Ayers had this to say about his bombing past, “I don’t regret setting bombs, I feel we didn’t do enough.”
Ayers was one of the original grantees of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a school reform organization in the 1990s, and was cochairman of the Chicago School Reform Collaborative, one the two operational arms of the CAC. Obama, then not yet a state senator, became chairman of the CAC in 1995. Later in that year, the first organizing meeting for Obama’s state Senate campaign was held in Ayers’s apartment. Ayers later wrote a memoir, and an article about him appeared in the New York Times on Sept. 11, 2001. “I don’t regret setting bombs,” Ayers is quoted as saying. “I feel we didn’t do enough.”
Ayers was a terrorist in the late 1960s and 1970s whose radical group set bombs at the Pentagon and U.S. Capitol.
You might wonder what Obama was doing working with a character like this. And you might wonder how an unrepentant terrorist got a huge grant and cooperation from the Chicago public school system. You might wonder—if you don’t know Chicago. For this is a city with a civic culture in which politicians, in the words of a story often told by former congressman, federal judge, and Clinton White House counsel Abner Mikva, “don’t want nobody nobody sent.” That’s what Mikva remembers being told when he went to a Democratic ward headquarters to volunteer for Adlai Stevenson in the 1950s, and it rings true. And it’s a civic culture in which there’s nobody better to send you than your parents.
That’s how William Ayers got where he was. When he came out of hiding because the federal government was unable to prosecute him (because of government misconduct), he got a degree in education from Columbia and then moved to Chicago and got a job on the education faculty of the University of Illinois-Chicago Circle. How did he get that job? Well, it can’t have hurt that his father, Thomas Ayers, was chairman of Commonwealth Edison (now Exelon) and a charter member of the Chicago establishment. As Mayor Richard M. Daley said recently, in arguing that the Ayers association should not be held against Obama, “His father was a great friend of my father.”
The current Mayor Daley is, of course, the son of the late Mayor Daley; the two Daleys have been mayors, and effective and competent mayors, of Chicago for 40 of the last 53 years. The attorney general of Illinois is the daughter of the speaker of the Illinois House of Representatives. The governor of Illinois is the son-in-law of the Democratic ward committeeman in the 33rd Ward. The congressman from the 2nd Congressional District is Jesse Jackson Jr. Jackson’s predecessor-but-one in the district was Morgan Murphy Jr., whose father was chairman of (get this) Commonwealth Edison.
How did this outsider from Hawaii and Columbia and Harvard become somebody somebody sent? His wife, Michelle Robinson Obama, had some connections: Her father was (I believe) a Democratic precinct committeeman, she baby-sat for Jesse Jackson’s children, and she worked as a staffer for the current Mayor Daley. Obama made connections on the all-black South Side by joining the Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s church.
THE AYERS/OBAMA TIMELINE: (Version 2.0; a work in progress; dates are approximate)
1981-1983 [William Ayers and Barack Obama meet at Columbia?]
1987 William Ayers links up with Barack Obama in Chicago
1988 Ayers solicits Khalid Al-Mansour to raise money for Obama’s Harvard law School education
1989 Tom Ayers and William Ayers get Obama a summer job at Sidley & Austin (where he meets Michelle Obama); Ayers’ wife Bernadine Dohrn also worked at Sidley at about the same time as Barack and Michelle.
1993 Ayers places Obama on Woods Foundation
1995 Ayers makes Obama Chairman of Annenberg Challenge
1995 Ayers hosts a coffee klatch for Obama’s political debut (Obama falsely claims this is when he met Ayers)
2007-2008 The structure of Obama’s presidential campaign increasingly comes to resemble an Ayers-designed national “community organizer matrix” straight out of Maoist theory. This is not merely a presidential “campaign.” Obama’s organization is the first installment of an ongoing movement being paid for with tax-exempt contributions to his campaign, approaching half a billion dollars.
2008 Obama In response to ABC News, Obama tells a national TV audience he was “six years old” when Ayers bombed federal buildings, and they are only casual neighborhood acquaintances. A lie.
Listen to what Bill Ayers, who hosted Barack Obama’s first fundraiser, has to say about the United States. Not when Obama was eight years old, but in 2007:
At the same event, Obama’s friend and supporter Bernadine Dohrn described the United States as “the monster.” Obama was 47 years old at the time:
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No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen
Today, Mr. Ayers and Ms. Dohrn, 59, who is director of the Legal Clinic’s Children and Family Justice Center of Northwestern University, seem like typical baby boomers, caring for aging parents, suffering the empty-nest syndrome. Their son, Malik, 21, is at the University of California, San Diego; Zayd, 24, teaches at Boston University. They have also brought up Chesa Boudin, 21, the son of David Gilbert and Kathy Boudin, who are serving prison terms for a 1981 robbery of a Brinks truck in Rockland County, N.Y., that left four people dead. Last month, Ms. Boudin’s application for parole was rejected.
So, would Mr. Ayers do it all again, he is asked? ‘’I don’t want to discount the possibility,’’ he said.
Mr. Ayers has always been known as a ‘’rich kid radical.’’ His father, Thomas, now 86, was chairman and chief executive officer of Commonwealth Edison of Chicago, chairman of Northwestern University and of the Chicago Symphony. When someone mentions his father’s prominence, Mr. Ayers is quick to say that his father did not become wealthy until the son was a teenager. He says that he got some of his interest in social activism from his father. He notes that his father promoted racial equality in Chicago and was acceptable as a mediator to Mayor Richard Daley and the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. in 1966 when King marched in Cicero, Ill., to protest housing segregation.
All in all, Mr. Ayers had ‘’a golden childhood,’’ he said, though he did have a love affair with explosives. On July 4, he writes, ‘’my brothers and I loved everything about the wild displays of noise and color, the flares, the surprising candle bombs, but we trembled mostly for the Big Ones, the loud concussions.’’
The love affair seems to have continued into adulthood. Even today, he finds ‘’a certain eloquence to bombs, a poetry and a pattern from a safe distance,’’ he writes.
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In 1967 he met Ms. Dohrn in Ann Arbor, Mich. She had a law degree from the University of Chicago
In 1969, after the Manson family murders in Beverly Hills, Ms. Dohrn told an S.D.S. audience: ‘’Dig it! Manson killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, then they shoved a fork into a victim’s stomach.’’
During his fugitive years, Mr. Ayers said, he lived in 15 states, taking names of dead babies in cemeteries who were born in the same year as he. He describes the typical safe house: there were usually books by Malcolm X and Ho Chi Minh, and Che Guevara’s picture in the bedroom
He also writes about the Weathermen’s sexual experimentation as they tried to ‘’smash monogamy.’’ The Weathermen were ‘’an army of lovers,’’ he says, and describes having had different sexual partners, including his best male friend.
In the mid-1970’s the Weathermen began quarreling. One faction, including Ms. Boudin, wanted to join the Black Liberation Army.
Ms. Dohrn felt grand juries were illegal and coercive,’’
Ms. Dohrn tried to practice law, taking the bar exam in New York. But she was turned down by the Bar Association’s character committee because of her political activities.
Ayers said he would like to see a Truth and Reconciliation Commission about Vietnam, he said, like South Africa’s. He can imagine Mr. Kerrey and Ms. Boudin taking part.
1.77 million hits on it!
For those still unfamiliar with the “mainstream” William Ayers, as Barack Obama described him on his campaign web site, this 2006 interview with Venezuelan socialist Luis Bonilla-Molina, founder of the Centro Internacional Miranda (CIM). In this clip, Ayers speaks about how the Vietnam War forced an escalation of tactics to violence and notes the terrorist Weather Underground as a “great teaching moment” — a telling description for this professor of education:
The last four weeks of this election will be about whether the American people are willing to turn our economy and national security over to Barack Obama, a man with little record, questionable judgment, and ties to radical figures like unrepentant domestic terrorist William Ayers. Americans need to ask themselves if they’ve ever befriended an unrepentant terrorist, or had a convicted felon help them buy their house — because those aren’t smears, those are true facts about Barack Obama. -—Tucker Bounds, spokesman McCain-Palin 2008
Palin is hitting the target!
Obama slams Palin’s ‘low blow’ personal attacks
“They’d rather try to tear our campaign down than lift this country up. It’s what you do when you’re out of touch, out of ideas, and running out of time,” he said.
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Obama accuses McCain of smear campaign
Democrat Barack Obama counterattacked on Sunday against a new Republican tactic by saying rival John McCain was more interested in a smear campaign than fixing the U.S. economy.
Gwen Ifill (Obama author) says both Joe Biden and Sarah Palin came in with their own agendas. She says Biden seemed to have decided “that he was going to debate John McCain,” while Palin had decided “to give a stump speech to the American people.”
Speaking on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” the PBS journalist says there was little she could do as moderator beyond saying “no, no, no, I asked a question” and pleading for an answer.
Ifill also says that she was surprised at how much attention Sarah Palin has gotten. She says she was struck by how many of the questions people suggested to her before the debate were all about Palin.
Lets not forget this from Mrs. Bill Ayers:
There’s no way to be committed to non-violence in one of the most violent societies that history has ever created. I’m not committed to non-violence in any way.“
~Bernardine Dohrn
Couch it how you will; baffle the masses with erudite proof that all is lost; McCain/Palin are going to WIN THIS YEAR. Never mind 2012. The focus has to be on NOW... unless you’ve given up the fight, unless you want to ensure premature defeat, which it seems you have/do.
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