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Chuck Todd: A Kerry Landslide? Why the next election won't be close.
Washington Monthly ^ | May 2004 | Chuck Todd

Posted on 10/05/2008 1:17:38 PM PDT by Chet 99

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To: Chet 99
So you subscribe to the Dick Morris school of predictions: keep making new ones until you happen to get one right?

No, but you are comparing Todd's 1-month-out predictions to the ones he makes way back in May. They are apples and oranges. You need to show that his 1-month-out predictions have been garbage.

VA was supposed to have been a battleground in 2004 as well... Kerry ended up abandoning the state in October.

Yes, but Virginia GOPers are willing to go on record talking about how tight the race is there. That's not the same as in 2004.

21 posted on 10/05/2008 1:55:03 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Chet 99

The press and MSM always call it too, close, gotta keep selling newspapers etc. Why pick a winner?


22 posted on 10/05/2008 1:55:51 PM PDT by Waco ( G00d bye 0'bomber)
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To: Chet 99

Chuck Todd whose WIFE is a Democrat Spinster !


23 posted on 10/05/2008 1:56:36 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: Chet 99

Yes, but at this point Kerry was not leading by 8 (7?) points, and Bush hadn’t just whored himself to the Democrats in congress by supporting the most unpopular bill of our time. (no, not Clinton)


24 posted on 10/05/2008 2:00:02 PM PDT by ClaudiusI
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To: Chet 99
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I absolutely despise Jeff Greenfield who could always find a silver lining in every report for the Demos. Everything always looks like the Democrats have great chances to him.

I don't remember Chuck Todd, but then again I try not to watch CNN.

This is the kind of stuff they do with polls. It is conservative voter supression, plain and simple. With Palin throwing some serious punches, they have got to turn up the pressure with more slanted polls and more slanted interpretation of polls and bold predictions that Obama is unstoppable.

25 posted on 10/05/2008 2:00:56 PM PDT by 1-Eagle (Demron, Fanniegate, Never Again!)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Your peddling a HIT PIECE FROM Lefty Wing JOHNNY Martin at rhe DNC front group called POLITICO , a hard core Leftist Obama website ???
Really who believed the Garbage from the POLITICO!
Little Johnny is a Obama cheerleader who was caught celebrating at the Obama cult festival In Denver !

This same Dem/Wash Compost hacks website reported a hot tip that Rove was going to be indicted so the WH was forcing him .
Rove left 18 mos later to become TV pundit.
The Politico reported Alberto Gonzales was going to resign immediately but Alberto left one year later !

26 posted on 10/05/2008 2:03:24 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: 1-Eagle

Jeff Greenfield seemed reasonably fair back in the 1980s, as did some others in the media. That seems like ancient history now.

Todd’s May 2004 prediction does not really apply that closely to the situation today. But it does show that opinions change, pundits get things wrong, and that elections can be volatile.


27 posted on 10/05/2008 2:03:45 PM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: tbpiper
Chuck Todd either needs to hire a proofreader or take some remedial history.

Yeah I stopped reading at that point. That kind of massive error was too distracting.

28 posted on 10/05/2008 2:04:22 PM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: Chet 99
...brought about by a shift of just two swing states that went for Bush last time, New Hampshire, and West Virginia.

Hate to break it to ya, Chuckie, but New Hampshire went for Kerry last time.

29 posted on 10/05/2008 2:08:16 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Tom Manion USMC '08!!)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

No: When someone says a race is “over”, regardless of when - they are either right or they are wrong. If they can’t get it right, then their credibility takes a deserved hit.

When Michael Barone says it is “over”, then I become very nervous. He’s not one to just pull predictions out of his ass, based on the latest conventional wisdom.

I don’t know what VA GOPers were saying in 2004, but that is a pretty broad statement to make: that no VA Republicans were concerned by all the close polling in 2004 (which was not close at all in election day).


30 posted on 10/05/2008 2:08:34 PM PDT by Chet 99 (Vote McCain/Palin, or this will be our future: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTb5EFZmgbs)
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To: TNCMAXQ
Jeff Greenfield seemed reasonably fair back in the 1980s, as did some others in the media. That seems like ancient history now.

It is obvious to me that you haven't been paying attention for very long to make a statement like that.

In 1996 most of the polls had Dole losing by double digits. CBS had him losing by 28% right about this time in 1996. How can you generate any popular support, or raise funds if people think a "margin of error" insures accuracy, and that means Dole is going to get his clock cleaned?

In the end I think he lost by 8%, and that was with Ross Perot eating up a big chunk of the fiscal conservative vote. Jeff Greenfield is a partisan democrat idiot, second on that list only to Bill Schneider.

31 posted on 10/05/2008 2:11:12 PM PDT by 1-Eagle (Yeah that Ayers guy just lived down the street so we decided to launch my campaign from there.)
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To: tbpiper

There’s no error there. He’s saying it could turn out “like 2000.”


32 posted on 10/05/2008 2:11:58 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: MrsEmmaPeel
CNN's astute commentator Jeff Greenfield hosted an entire segment on how easily this election could turn out like 2000, with President Bush and Sen. John Kerry splitting victories

There is no error there. "This election" refers to 2004.

33 posted on 10/05/2008 2:13:26 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat

I thought Gore ran in 2000, not Kerry.


34 posted on 10/05/2008 2:13:38 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Tom Manion USMC '08!!)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Oh, you’re right. The article is from 2004. Sorry.


35 posted on 10/05/2008 2:16:25 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Tom Manion USMC '08!!)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Oh, ok. Got lost in the time warp.


36 posted on 10/05/2008 2:16:37 PM PDT by tbpiper (Obama/Biden: Instead of Ebony and Ivory, we have Arrogance and Insolence.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Warning here.

JOhnny Martin formerly of the Wash Compost is a DNC operative who will LIE and Cheat for the Obama.
The GOP in DC have already complained to the owner of the the POLITICO about his , Allen, and Jimmie Van Deilh
promoting of Obama faxes as News at the Obama website.

Old Johnny peddling dozens of non stop Sen Allen attack “Macca” pieces in the Wash Compost for the Webb campaign

He is a complete fraud and a disgrace !

37 posted on 10/05/2008 2:20:40 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: TXBlair

NO...let him forget how stupid he was then. Let him keep spouting his garbage.


38 posted on 10/05/2008 2:20:58 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Chet 99

Thank you! Great find. Will forward to morning joe blow this week.


39 posted on 10/05/2008 2:23:39 PM PDT by Doug TX
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To: snarkytart

Yes, I am crazy like a mule.


40 posted on 10/05/2008 2:42:52 PM PDT by freeplancer
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