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Austin Man Due in Court for Bison Slaying ( Jeff Hawn )
(AP) -- ^ | 10/06/2008

Posted on 10/06/2008 8:41:42 AM PDT by george76

A software CEO from Texas accused of allowing the killing of his neighbor's bison in South Park last winter is due in court.

Forty-four-year-old Jeffrey Scott Hawn of Austin has been charged with 32 counts of animal cruelty, one count of theft of more than $20,000 and a one count of criminal mischief. Prosecutors allege that he "tortured, needlessly mutilated or needlessly killed" the bison, who belonged to another rancher.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Colorado; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: animalcruelty; animalrights; atzlan; bison; buffalo; co; corruption; downare; hawn; jeffhawn; jeffreyscotthawn; montedownare; propertyrights; southpark; vaughndownare; wateredge

1 posted on 10/06/2008 8:41:42 AM PDT by george76
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To: Concho; MtnClimber; jazusamo

In an arrest warrant, investigators say the bulk of the bison — 14 of them — were killed on land owned by Catherine Pimm.

Eight were killed on Bureau of Land Management property,

four on U.S. Forest Service property,

three on property of Robert Lemm

three on Hawn’s ranch.


2 posted on 10/06/2008 8:43:50 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

From what I’ve read, it’s an open range issue. Ranchers have been allowed to graze over large areas for generations. Outsiders with sizable resources are buying up the land and don’t want the creatures on their land. One more sign the world is getting smaller and more private.


3 posted on 10/06/2008 8:47:26 AM PDT by Paraclete
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To: george76

When we heard about this here in Colorado, the first thing I said was “There’s some land issues here. Someone’s cattle was roaming on someone else’s property”

That’s pretty much what it turned out to be according to the local authorities awhile back. Can’t cite a link at the moment but it turned out that the guy who “authorized the shootings” simply gave a verbal go-ahead to some other folks.

Those folks doing the shooting “didn’t know any better”.

/sigh

I’m waiting to find out what comes out in court now to see how accurate all that was.

(btw we’re getting a quarter of a buffalo at the end of the month is a LEGAL shoot! lol)


4 posted on 10/06/2008 8:50:41 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for latest on Russia/China/DPRK et al.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson; XeniaSt; rellimpank

In a Feb. 25 letter addressed to Antonino Salcedo, Hawn gave permission to Salcedo and his “Atzlan Native Community” colleagues, based in Gardner, Colo., to “remove the buffalo from my ranch.”


5 posted on 10/06/2008 8:54:45 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Paraclete; Concho

Colorado is a Fence Out State. Most Western states are. If you don’t want livestock on your property, it is legally your responsibility to build an adequate fence to keep them out. Right or wrong that is the way it is.

ht Concho


6 posted on 10/06/2008 8:57:10 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

It will be interesting wo see what happens!


7 posted on 10/06/2008 9:02:12 AM PDT by MtnClimber (http://www.jeffhead.com/obama/nobamanation-sticker.jpg)
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To: Paraclete

One more sign of outsiders intruding into once peaceful situations. Just because they have sizable resources doesnt give them the right to disturb the culture of generations.


8 posted on 10/06/2008 9:05:42 AM PDT by Concho
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To: george76

Hawn’s day of reckoning is approaching fast, looking forward to seeing the outcome.

Thanks for the ping.


9 posted on 10/06/2008 9:08:33 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: george76
Regardless of the trial outcome
Jeff Hawn needs to pack up his
Carpetbags and go back to Texas

10 posted on 10/06/2008 9:13:18 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: george76

Another example of a rich outsider trying to make his own laws. Since he thinks his money makes him above the law, I hope this costs him dearly.


11 posted on 10/06/2008 9:16:39 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus

32 bison? That’s at least 100K. That’s gonna leave a mark.


12 posted on 10/06/2008 9:20:20 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (McCain/Palin 2008 : Palin the Paladin 2012)
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To: Concho

Seems the lust for Western land has driven the prices high and put a lot of pressure on the old timers. I was told by a rancher in Colorado that taxes are going up and the old-timers are being driven out. Can anyone confirm that?


13 posted on 10/06/2008 9:25:17 AM PDT by Paraclete
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To: Paraclete

Ever hear of Aspen?


14 posted on 10/06/2008 9:28:41 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus

Yes, it looks like this will cost him dearly. The interesting thing is if he’ll get any jail time, community service or probation, I’d bet on the last two.


15 posted on 10/06/2008 9:36:51 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: ozzymandus

Happening all over Colorado.

These liberal city snobs move in with their big money and no common sense...

Then they get zoning rules changed so that historical farmers and ranchers can not survive.


16 posted on 10/06/2008 9:39:18 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: ozzymandus
Ever hear of Aspen?

Pitkin County is not ranch land as is Park County (South Park).

17 posted on 10/06/2008 9:39:56 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: jazusamo

Plus his battery of high-powered big city lawyers will cost him plenty. He won’t do any time, but he’ll write some big checks.


18 posted on 10/06/2008 9:40:32 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: jazusamo; girlangler; proud_yank; Grammy; LucyT

Liberals get hunting seasons closed, stop historical hunting practices, then get wolves and other large predators introduced, then deny ranchers from defending their livestock...


19 posted on 10/06/2008 9:42:49 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: XeniaSt

What about Ted Turner, Tom Brokaw, and the other millionaires buying “ranches”? That’s happening all over the country. One local cashes in on the sucker, but his neighbors are left with higher taxes and boorish, absentee neighbors.


20 posted on 10/06/2008 9:43:12 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: XeniaSt

It was from the 1800’s thru the 1970’s.

Then the hippies and druggies moved in.


21 posted on 10/06/2008 9:47:12 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

this guy had a fence, the bison keep knocking it down...so after quite a few knockdowns, and the bison’s owner refusing to do anything, or even fix the fence, the dude had them shot ..the mistake he made was shooting the ones not on his property


22 posted on 10/06/2008 9:50:44 AM PDT by joe fonebone (The Second Amendment is the Constitutions reset button)
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To: george76
And before that it belonged to the Utes

23 posted on 10/06/2008 9:51:55 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: joe fonebone

Mr. Hawn has 32 criminal charges against him...

The property Mr. Hawn owns isn’t used as a ranch; it’s just a vacation area. In the first place, a rancher doesn’t hate animals and KILL them!

There isn’t any one that knows that the buffalo did any damage to anything; they’re just guessing.

It could have been a herd of elk that stays in that area; or even Hawn’s horses rubbing on his solar panels and TV dishes could have been the problem.

Vaughn Downare

http://www.theflume.com/main.asp?SectionID=2&SubSectionID=2&ArticleID=5474&TM=74279.37


24 posted on 10/06/2008 9:59:37 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: joe fonebone

Investigators allege that in a letter dated Feb. 25, Hawn authorized the slaughter by members of the Aztlan Native Community of Gardner.

He told the group he wanted them “to get started as quickly as possible.


25 posted on 10/06/2008 10:03:37 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

AH! There was a letter then! What the papers said when it happened was “verbal agreement” sort of thing.

I never have actually HEARD what the shooters themselves had to say. But, they kinda “ain’t guilty”. (I mean they were doing something on private property, thought the animals belonged to the guy and we have several of those places here in Colorado where you go in, buy an animal, shoot it yourself and then it’s yours to take home)


26 posted on 10/06/2008 10:04:03 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for latest on Russia/China/DPRK et al.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

Eight were killed on Bureau of Land Management property,

four on U.S. Forest Service property,


27 posted on 10/06/2008 10:07:35 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

Authorities were first notified of the slaughter on March 19 when the Downares called 911 to report shots being fired at the bison. When deputies arrived, they discovered 14 people shooting at bison. They called a cease-fire and confiscated 12 rifles.

One of the shooters, identified in the affidavit as Antonino Salcedo, immediately turned over a letter written by Stephen Csajaghy, a Denver lawyer, and signed by his client, Jeff Hawn.

No fool, Antonino Salcedo liked the idea of getting free bison meat, but wanted a notarized letter from John Norman granting him and his pals permission for the hunt. It was provided.

On that March 19 morning, though, Salcedo and the others arrived to find at least 16 bison already lying dead, none even remotely dressed out for harvest.

They would shoot others on the Hawn property, adjacent Bureau of Land Management lands and on neighboring property. Investigators found that at least seven of the 16 cow bison killed prior to March 19 were about to calve.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/may/08/johnson-these-broken-fences-will-take-a-long-to/?printer=1/


28 posted on 10/06/2008 10:11:34 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

I neither get, nor READ that particular paper :)

Thanks for the links.


29 posted on 10/06/2008 10:31:15 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for latest on Russia/China/DPRK et al.)
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To: Paraclete

Yes, the outsiders moved into Custer County which is just south of Canon City, and they literally took over. Bought up everything they could lay hands on, and got on the county commission then ran taxes out through the roof and broke those who were left. Now the entire county is owned by Texas and California liberal money. Many old people got evicted from their homes because they had no way to pay the taxes. Check out Custer County, its on the web.


30 posted on 10/06/2008 11:23:14 AM PDT by Concho
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To: XeniaSt
"Jeff Hawn needs to pack up his Carpetbags and go back to Texas"

We don't want him!!!

Couldn't some Eastern state grant him asylum?
lol

31 posted on 10/06/2008 11:41:05 AM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D. - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Redbob
XS> "Jeff Hawn needs to pack up his Carpetbags and go back to Texas"

We don't want him!!!

Couldn't some Eastern state grant him asylum?

lol

Sorry but he claims to be a Texan.

Jeffrey S Hawn

Jeffrey S Hawn

44yo Austin, TX & Houston, TX
Jeff S Hawn dad
wife Marisa Chantelle Hawn


32 posted on 10/06/2008 12:00:37 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: george76

Pretty amazing for a Florida boy to go out to Montana or Wyoming and see all the open range signs. Don’t think I’ve seen one east of the Mississippi.


33 posted on 10/06/2008 1:12:42 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Concho

The rancher I talked to was from around the Paonia area. Must be going on across the whole State.


34 posted on 10/06/2008 1:30:02 PM PDT by Paraclete
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To: Paraclete

It is across the entire mountain region. They are doing the same thing here in New Mexico now.


35 posted on 10/06/2008 4:20:47 PM PDT by Concho
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To: Concho; XeniaSt; jazusamo; ozzymandus; MtnClimber

Plea deal offered in Park County bison slayings

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/oct/06/plea-deal-offered-park-county-bison-slayings/


36 posted on 10/06/2008 10:46:10 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

It’s a shame a plea deal is being offered. He deserves to be convicted of a felony and pay full restitution as well as stiff fines. His attorneys fees would cost a bunch more having to go thru a trial not to mention the possibility of jail time.


37 posted on 10/06/2008 11:01:01 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: jazusamo

Jeff Hawn’s attorney Pam Mackey did the same thing in Eagle County with Kobe.

These DAs are afraid of her ?


38 posted on 10/06/2008 11:10:08 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

People need to remember this when they go to vote on that county attorney next month.


39 posted on 10/07/2008 8:30:03 AM PDT by Concho
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Tech CEO pleads guilty in bison deaths

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2123866/posts


40 posted on 11/03/2008 12:40:36 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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