Posted on 10/06/2008 5:50:09 PM PDT by flyfree
The Relationship Between Barack Obama And Bill Ayers Is Much More Extensive Than Obama's Campaign Is Willing To Admit
Obama's Top Campaign Staff Have Attempted To Downplay The Relationship Between Obama And Bill Ayers:
Obama Spokesman Robert Gibbs Said That Obama And Ayers Weren't Close And That Obama Was Only 8 Years Old When Ayers Was Bombing Buildings. Robert Gibbs: "If you read the article ... it says these two men weren't close, this man isn't involved in our campaign. Bill Ayers is somebody that Barack Obama said his actions were despicable and these happened when Barack Obama was 8 years old." (FOX News' "FOX & Friends," 10/6/08)
Gibbs Has Also Limited The Relationship Between Obama And Ayers To Serving On Two Boards Together. John Roberts: "Barack Obama knew Bill Ayers and had contact with him between 1995 and 2005. Exactly what was the nature of the relationship?" Robert Gibbs: "Well, John, as The New York Times reported this weekend, they served on two boards together during that time period." (CNN's "American Morning," 10/6/08)
Even Obama Has Previously Referred To Ayers As "A Guy Who Lives In My Neighborhood" And Not Someone He Exchanges Ideas With "On A Regular Basis." Obama: "George, but this is an example of what I'm talking about. This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English in Chicago who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis. And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn't make much sense, George." (Sen. Barack Obama, ABC Democrat Candidates Presidential Debate, Philadelphia, PA, 4/16/08)
But Obama's Connections With Bill Ayers Are Much More Extensive Than He Or His Campaign Staff Is Willing To Admit:
In 1995, During Obama's First State Senate Campaign, William Ayers And Wife Bernadine Dohrn Hosted A Meeting Of Chicago Liberals At Their Home For Obama, Which One Attendee Said Was Aimed At "Launching Him." "In 1995, State Senator Alice Palmer introduced her chosen successor, Barack Obama, to a few of the district's influential liberals at the home of two well known figures on the local left: William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn. While Ayers and Dohrn may be thought of in Hyde Park as local activists, they're better known nationally as two of the most notorious -- and unrepentant -- figures from the violent fringe of the 1960s anti-war movement. ... 'I can remember being one of a small group of people who came to Bill Ayers' house to learn that Alice Palmer was stepping down from the senate and running for Congress,' said Dr. Quentin Young, a prominent Chicago physician and advocate for single-payer health care, of the info rmal gathering at the home of Ayers and his wife, Dohrn. '[Palmer] identified [Obama] as her successor.' ... Dr. Young and another guest, Maria Warren, described it similarly: as an introduction to Hyde Park liberals of the handpicked successor to Palmer, a well-regarded figure on the left. 'When I first met Barack Obama, he was giving a standard, innocuous little talk in the living room of those two legends-in-their-own-minds, Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn,' Warren wrote on her blog in 2005. 'They were launching him -- introducing him to the Hyde Park community as the best thing since sliced bread.'" (Ben Smith, "Obama Once Visited '60s Radicals," The Politico, 1/22/08)
From March Of 1995 Until September Of 1997, Obama And Ayers Attended At Least Seven Meetings Together Relating To The Chicago Annenberg Challenge. (Chicago Annenberg Challenge, Board Of Directors Meeting, Minutes Of The Board, 3/15/95, 3/31/95, 4/13/95, 6/5/95, 9/30/97; National Annenberg Challenge Evaluation Meeting, List Of Participants, 5/24/95; Chicago Annenberg Challenge, Chicago School Reform Collaborative Meeting, Minutes, 10/23/96)
In 1997, Obama Praised Ayers' Book On The Juvenile Justice System. "The two men were involved in efforts to reform the city's education system. They appeared together on academic panels, including one organized by Michelle Obama to discuss the juvenile justice system, an area of mutual concern. Mr. Ayers's book on the subject won a rave review in The Chicago Tribune by Mr. Obama, who called it 'a searing and timely account.'" (Jo Becker and Christopher Drew, "Pragmatic Politics, Forged On The South Side," The New York Times, 5/11/08)
"[Obama And Ayers] Have Also Appeared Jointly On Two Academic Panels, One In 1997 And Another In 2001." (Russell Berman, "Obama's Ties To Left Come Under Scrutiny," The New York Sun, 2/19/08)
From 1999 To 2002, Obama Served With Ayers On The Board Of Directors For Woods Fund Of Chicago. "[Ayers] served with [Obama] from 1999 to 2002 on the board of the Woods Fund, an anti-poverty group." (Timothy J. Burger, "Obama's Chicago Ties Might Fuel 'Republican Attack Machine'," Bloomberg, 2/15/08)
Obama And Ayers Are Neighbors In Chicago's Hyde Park Neighborhood. "Twenty-six years later, at a lunchtime meeting about school reform in a Chicago skyscraper, Barack Obama met Mr. Ayers, by then an education professor. Their paths have crossed sporadically since then, at a coffee Mr. Ayers hosted for Mr. Obama's first run for office, on the schools project and a charitable board, and in casual encounters as Hyde Park neighbors." (Scott Shane, "Obama And '60s Bomber: A Look Into Crossed Paths," The New York Times, 10/4/08)
Ayers' Organization, The Weather Underground, Was A "Violent Left-Wing Activist Group":
"William Ayers ... [Was] A Founding Member Of The Group That Bombed The U.S. Capitol And The Pentagon During The 1970s." (Russell Berman, "Obama's Ties To Left Come Under Scrutiny," The New York Sun, 2/19/08)
The Weather Underground Produced A Manual Which Begins, "We Are A Guerrilla Organization. We Are Communist Women And Men, Underground In The United States For More Than Four Years." "The coalition was said to be a violence-prone faction inspired by the Weather Underground's ''Prairie Fire,'' a guerrilla warfare manual published in 1974. The manual begins, 'We are a guerrilla organization. We are Communist women and men, underground in the United States for more than four years.'" (Paul L. Montgomery, "2 Women In Brink's Case Identified With Weathermen From Start In '69," The New York Times, 10/ 22/81)
CNN is just did a segment portraying Ayers to be about not much more than participating in a college prank war protest.
Just my personal opinion here. I think that the only people who care about this here are the conservative base voters who are already going to vote for Sen. McCain. I believe that he should hammer 0bama on his Freddie and Fannie ties instead, because this is something that swing voters are more interested in, and it is something that is still going on now. 0bama has received an undeserved bump in the polls because of the financial meltdown, and unless Sen. McCain can open people’s eyes to the truth of the cause of it we are screwed. This isn’t me being chicken little, this is reality. I work with mostly women and though they like Gov. Palin they are mad about the economy and are connecting the bad news with President Bush,and by default Sen. McCain, even though without Bush’s tax cuts we would be in even worse shape than we are in now.
Connect Obama with the American hatin’ left connect him with this screw up.
I think the Obama/Ayers relationship is highly significant to the undecided voter. Most people remain uninformed about the facts of the issue and it continues to be swept under the rug. It’s disturbing that the Obama campaign is filing lawsuits to keep factual commercials about this off of television. This anti-free speech position will resonate with middle-of-the-road voters. So, even if someone doesn’t object to Obama’s association with Ayers they may well object to the heavy handed censorship position that the campaign is taking. Rightfully so.
Read the FBI file, Ayer’s fingerprints were in the bombers appt.
The McCain camp is hitting both issues hard. They are capable of promoting more multiple avenues of attack.
As to the idea that only us Freeper types are interested in the Ayers story, that's not the case, if websites like hillaryclintonforum.net and others are any indication. One of the prime reasons why there's a PUMA movement of former Hillary supporters in the first place is precisely because of Obama's ties to Ayers and other Leftist Radicals. This issue is not a small matter to patriotic old school FDR-Kennedy-Truman and even Clinton Dems.
Bottom line is that most voters don't know the real Barack Obama. The Ayers story as not much mainstream coverage outside of a blip long ago in the Dem primary. For many voters this will be the first they've heard of Ayers and Dhorn.
Chicago, University of Illinois went through all papers regarding Obama and Ayers working together on that GRANT MONEY Ayers got...it seems it was for eduction and Obama was one Ayers allowed to distribute it to ACORN and other far left groups teaching radical behavior to students...this is a tie that Obama cannot shake and is refutes the fact that they just knew each other in neighborhood..OBAMA AND AYERS TOOK FIVE YEARS TO DISTRIBUTE THOSE MILLIONS...
This is all important stuff, but the timing is terrible. This should’ve been out there as soon as he was nominated. Now, it’s all being drowned out by the din of economic calamity, which Obama has successfully in pinned on McCain - while McCain has been yapping about “not blaming anyone.”
This isn’t the time for Ayers.
McCain’s people had about 4 weeks of hiiting all bullseyes. Now they’re the gang that couldn’t shoot straight.
It’s time to talk Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Franklin Raynes, Jim Johnson, Barney Frank, and Acorn. It’s freakin unbelievable. The world economy is on fire. The arsonists are benefiting in the polls - and the McCain campaign doesn’t want to talk about BLAME !
Sorry about the typos in my previous post. I’m an insomniac on the tail end of more than a day without sleep so the focus is a bit fuzzy, to say the least. Think you got the gist, anyway.
The McCain campaign may be capable of more than 1 line of attack at a time but there are too many nitwits with voter ID cards who aren’t.
I agree. I actually talked to someone last week who didn't know Obama's middle name was Hussein. She was voting for McCain anyway, so it doesn't change anything. This is someone who works two jobs, has no internet access, and only watches the nightly news (in Arizona, even.)
He is talking about all the things you mention, but it IS the right time for Ayers, you hit right before the election so it is fresh in the minds of the voters-—who will have that lingering worry in their mind as to Obama and his character in the voting booth-—the character and values that are radically different from theirs. It has worked before to do this and could work again. People don’t want a radical liberal POTUS, and they need to know that Obama is just that and not the fake small town All-American boy he tries to portray.
http://foia.fbi.gov/weather/weath1a.pdf
Jim, can we put this FBI file on the top of FR?
Everyone should read it.
I hear you. But remember that we live in a media-saturated tv remote channel-surfing web browsing world of constantly changing information. The most dimwitted guy I know, armed with his trusty remote control, can maintain to follow half a dozen different shows at the same time. You'd be surprised how many simultaneous concepts even the nittest of wits can handle.
When the MSM is lying so totally for Obama, what comes next. It is clear that they have become just a mouthpiece for socialism. How many of you want to live as subjects?
Close-up on juvenile justice
Author, former offender among speakers
By Jennifer Vanasco
News Office
Children who kill are called “super predators,” “people with no conscience,” “feral pre-social beings” — and “adults.”
William Ayers, author of A Kind and Just Parent: The Children of Juvenile Court (Beacon Press, 1997), says “We should call a child a child. A 13-year-old who picks up a gun isn’t suddenly an adult. We have to ask other questions: How did he get the gun? Where did it come from?”
Ayers, who spent a year observing the Cook County Temporary Juvenile Detention Center in Chicago, is one of four panelists who will speak on juvenile justice at 6 p.m. Thursday, Nov. 20, in the C-Shop. The panel, which marks the 100th anniversary of the juvenile justice system in the United States, is part of the Community Service Center’s monthly discussion series on issues affecting the city of Chicago. The event is free and open to the public.
Ayers will be joined by Sen. Barack Obama, Senior Lecturer in the Law School, who is working to combat legislation that would put more juvenile offenders into the adult system; Randolph Stone, Director of the Mandel Legal Aid Clinic; Alex Correa, a reformed juvenile offender who spent seven years in Cook County Temporary Detention Center; Frank Tobin, a former priest and teacher at the Detention Center who helped Correa; and Willy Baldwin, who grew up in public housing and is currently a teacher at the Detention Center.
The juvenile justice system was founded by Chicago reformer Jane Addams, who advocated the establishment of a separate court system for children which would act like a “kind and just parent” for children in crisis.
One hundred years later, the system is “overcrowded, under-funded, over-centralized and racist,” Ayers said.
Michelle Obama, Associate Dean of Student Services and Director of the University Community Service Center, hopes bringing issues like this to campus will open a dialogue between members of the University community and the broader community.
“Students and faculty explore these issues in the classroom, but it is an internal conversation,” Obama said. “We know that issues like juvenile justice impact the city of Chicago, this nation and — directly or indirectly — this campus. This panel gives students a chance to hear about the juvenile justice system not only on a theoretical level, but from the people who have experienced it.”
http://chronicle.uchicago.edu/971106/justice.shtml
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