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US judge orders Chinese Muslims at Guantanamo freed
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Posted on 10/07/2008 9:53:43 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

US judge orders Chinese Muslims at Guantanamo freed 07 Oct 2008 16:40:00 GMT Source: Reuters WASHINGTON, Oct 7 (Reuters) - A federal judge on Tuesday ordered the release in the United States of 17 Chinese Muslims who have been held at the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, a landmark ruling that dealt a major setback to the Bush administration.

U.S. District Judge Ricardo Urbina read his ruling from the bench at a hearing to consider the appeals by the members of the Uighur ethnic group, who are seeking their release from the military prison and and asking to come to the United States.

The judge said there was no evidence the detainees, who have been held at Guantanamo for nearly seven years, were "enemy combatants" or a security risk, and that the U.S. Constitution prohibits indefinite detention without cause.

The ruling was a setback for the Bush administration, which argued that federal judges do not have the authority to order the release into the United States of the detainees.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: enemycombatant; gitmo; gwot; judiciary; wo; wot
Who is this numskull..........
1 posted on 10/07/2008 9:53:43 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
. . . and asking to come to the United States.

WTF?

2 posted on 10/07/2008 9:55:16 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Sub-Driver

Then we will just let them move to the judges city and get a job at one of the many chinese fast food joints in town. I hear he likes sushi, mohammed(Hot) style.


3 posted on 10/07/2008 9:57:10 AM PDT by cameraeye (Save all your prayers till the morning of the 5th.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Does this idiot think anybody cares what he orders? Just ignore him.


4 posted on 10/07/2008 9:57:25 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: Sub-Driver
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Judge Urbina was appointed to the United States District Court in July 1994. He received a B.A. in 1967 from Georgetown University and graduated from the Georgetown University Law Center in 1970. He served as staff attorney for the D.C. Public Defender Service from 1970 to 1972 and then entered private practice. From 1974 to 1981 he taught at Howard University Law School and directed the University's Criminal Justice Program. He was appointed Associate Judge of the Superior Court of the District of Columbia in April 1981, and served as Presiding Judge of the Court's Family Division from 1985 to 1988.

5 posted on 10/07/2008 10:00:15 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (Que Sarah, Sarah)
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To: Sub-Driver

Yeah, let’s set em up with sub prime mortgages in Manhattan and D.C. —— and while we’re at it, let’s give em jobs with Homeland Security.....


6 posted on 10/07/2008 10:02:00 AM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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To: Sub-Driver

>>>U.S. District Judge Ricardo Urbina read his ruling from the bench at a hearing to consider the appeals by the members of the Uighur ethnic group, who are seeking their release from the military prison and and asking to come to the United States.<<<

Great - so not only are these people being let out, they’re being released amongst us. Wonderful.

>>>The judge said there was no evidence the detainees, who have been held at Guantanamo for nearly seven years, were “enemy combatants” or a security risk, and that the U.S. Constitution prohibits indefinite detention without cause.<<<

“The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it. “

Article 1, Section 9 US Constitution

>>>The ruling was a setback for the Bush administration, which argued that federal judges do not have the authority to order the release into the United States of the detainees.<<<

Does the Constitution apply to non Citizens? I’ve always felt the answer is “no” - otherwise we could arrest people like Ahmadinejad when they come here for treason.

>>>The United States has been unable to find a country willing to accept the Uighurs.<<<

No one wants these Islamic pacifists? Why is that?


7 posted on 10/07/2008 10:02:19 AM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Obama for President!)
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To: Sub-Driver
US judge orders Chinese Muslims at Guantanamo freed

Now they can go back to working as "community organizers."

8 posted on 10/07/2008 10:02:45 AM PDT by XR7
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To: Sub-Driver
The ruling was a setback for the Bush administration, which argued that federal judges do not have the authority to order the release into the United States of the detainees.

Mr Journalism major, let me be the first to inform you that the mere fact that a judge made a statement does not actually mean that the issue of whether he has the authority to issue such a statement is settled.

9 posted on 10/07/2008 10:02:59 AM PDT by Teacher317 (Suddenly a big time Palin supporter... who's that McCabe guy?)
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To: La Enchiladita
Looking into the eyes of affirmitive action...

we are so screwed......

10 posted on 10/07/2008 10:03:28 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (I am not ....him!)
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To: cameraeye

One of the things I learned in kindergarten was to put things back where I found them. Just put these guys right back in Afghanistan. The part that borders China, of course.


11 posted on 10/07/2008 10:03:28 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("Ah! but it was something to have at least a choice of nightmares.")
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To: Sub-Driver
Dear Judge,

1. Go read up on the Laws of War.
2. Realize that you have no jurisdiction over matters of war.
3. Take a flying leap at a rolling donut.

Thank you.

12 posted on 10/07/2008 10:03:43 AM PDT by TChris (So many useful idiots...)
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To: XR7

They want Asylum. That means they can go right on Welfare.


13 posted on 10/07/2008 10:04:14 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Sub-Driver
Any doubt that the Communists have taken over power in America. Will be complete with Obama as President.
14 posted on 10/07/2008 10:05:26 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Set them free and drop them off at the Peiking AP.


15 posted on 10/07/2008 10:06:56 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (If we can reverse the ticket, we'd have a winner! PALIN/MCCAIN)
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To: TChris

Bush to Judge: Stick it in your a$$.


16 posted on 10/07/2008 10:08:58 AM PDT by TruthFactor (The Death of Nations: Pornography, Homosexuality, Abortion)
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To: Sub-Driver

Flee Musrums!!!!


17 posted on 10/07/2008 10:12:47 AM PDT by misterrob (Obama-Keep the Change!)
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To: Tzimisce

Put para chutes on them and jettison them over China...China
doesn’t like chinese Muslims!


18 posted on 10/07/2008 10:13:30 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Sub-Driver

Please tell me you got this from Scrappleface?

Or if not: could we get them released into Nancy Pelosi’s custody?
I hear her restaurant needs some more dishwashers...


19 posted on 10/07/2008 10:16:40 AM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D. - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Sub-Driver

What jursdiction does he have?


20 posted on 10/07/2008 10:18:58 AM PDT by Danae (Read my Lipstick: I AM Sarah Palin)
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To: mdmathis6
"Put para chutes on them and jettison them over China"

Or better yet, just economize on parachutes...

21 posted on 10/07/2008 10:19:23 AM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D. - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Sub-Driver

Um, so can we just kill these non-uniformed combatants out in the field like the Geneva Conventions allow and forget about detaining them over here? With our interrogation techniques continually being eaten away, I can’t imagine there’s any info all but the top guys could provide that would be valuable than these idiotic trials and rulings are damaging.


22 posted on 10/07/2008 10:23:05 AM PDT by According2RecentPollsAirIsGood
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To: La Enchiladita
He looks like a dork.

Put the chinese terrorist on a military transport to Tiawan, then have them flown commericial to Beijing.

Let China deal with them. They will likely be dead and body parts within a week.

23 posted on 10/07/2008 11:02:31 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (NOBAMA - it is for our future)
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To: Fox_Mulder77

Don’t forget to register them to vote for 0bama in the election.


24 posted on 10/07/2008 11:15:15 AM PDT by sportutegrl (0bi has been looking a little wan.)
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To: La Enchiladita

Judge Urbina at best you are stupid. At worst you’re a stupid traitor. I wonder what you’ll say if one of these terrorists blows up someone you love. Oh, oh, what must I be thinking? You will blame George Bush not the bomber, of course. You’re a pathetic excuse for an American.


25 posted on 10/07/2008 11:16:28 AM PDT by dools007
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To: Sub-Driver

WTF. This is a case where the executive branch must ignore and castigate this judicial retard.


26 posted on 10/07/2008 11:22:36 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: La Enchiladita

I say ignore him...he has overstepped his authority.


27 posted on 10/07/2008 12:21:03 PM PDT by TheGunny
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To: Sub-Driver
I make a habit of checking SCOTUSblog for detainee case information. The big media is worse than useless, except as entertainment, much as one can be entertained by a pack of inveterate liars.

Federal Judge Orders Uighurs in U.S. by Friday

28 posted on 10/07/2008 12:30:47 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: La Enchiladita
Judge Urbina was appointed to the United States District Court in July 1994

President 1993-2001, William Jefferson Blythe Clinton.

So this clown was one of The Bent One's early judicial appointees.

29 posted on 10/07/2008 2:11:49 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Sub-Driver

Notice this story has no mention whatsoever of the circumstances of the capture of these men. That makes me think it was probably pretty obvious that they were indeed “enemy combatants”.


30 posted on 10/07/2008 2:14:09 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

Imagine my surprise.....


31 posted on 10/07/2008 2:14:56 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Que Sarah, Sarah)
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To: mdmathis6

We can’t deport these guys: they might vote Democrat.

Obama carries the terrorist vote...


32 posted on 10/07/2008 2:29:03 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Obama for President!)
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To: Cboldt
After reading the SCOTUSblog article, it seems that the government itself is saying that the men are not "enemy combatants", but are however members of a designated terrorist group, the East Turkestan Islamic Movement.

It also states that they where captured at Tora Bora, Osama's former hideout. I'm sure they were just herding goats or farming. Riight.

33 posted on 10/07/2008 2:29:11 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: sportutegrl
Don’t forget to register them to vote for 0bama in the election.

Registration is closed in most places, and definitely is in DC. Of course the judge could "bend" the law a little, in the interest of "justice", (and hope, and change).

34 posted on 10/07/2008 2:33:13 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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