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You Guys Are Nuts (Face it, McCain is Toast)
http://www.nationalreview.com/ ^ | October 07, 2008 | Andy McCarthy

Posted on 10/07/2008 8:31:10 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45

You Guys Are Nuts [Andy McCarthy]

We have a disaster here — which is what you should expect when you delegate a non-conservative to make the conservative (nay, the American) case. We can parse it eight ways to Sunday, but I think the commentary is missing the big picture.

Here's what Obama needed to do tonight: Convince the country that he was an utterly safe, conventional, centrist politician who may have leftward leanings but will do the right thing when the crunch comes.

Now, as the night went along, did you get the impression that Obama comes from the radical Left? Did you sense that he funded Leftist causes to the tune of tens of millions of dollars? Would you have guessed that he's pals with a guy who brags about bombing the Pentagon? Would you have guessed that he helped underwrite raging anti-Semites? Would you come away thinking, "Gee, he's proposing to transfer nearly a trillion dollars of wealth to third-world dictators through the UN"?

Nope. McCain didn't want to go there. So Obama comes off as just your average Center-Left politician. Gonna raise your taxes a little, gonna negotiate reasonably with America's enemies; gonna rely on our very talented federal courts to fight terrorists and solve most of America's problems; gonna legalize millions of hard-working illegal immigrants.

McCain? He comes off as Center-Right .. or maybe Center-Left ... but, either way, deeply respectful of Obama despite their policy quibbles.

Great. Memo to McCain Campaign: Someone is either a terrorist sympathizer or he isn't; someone is either disqualified as a terrorist sympathizer or he's qualified for public office. You helped portray Obama as a clealy qualified presidential candidate who would fight terrorists.

If that's what the public thinks, good luck trying to win this thing.

With due respect, I think tonight was a disaster for our side. I'm dumbfounded that no one else seems to think so. Obama did everything he needed to do, McCain did nothing he needed to do. What am I missing


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KEYWORDS: 2008debates; andrewmccarthy; mccain; obama; rino
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To: word_warrior_bob

I ask you again, how long have you really been posting at FR?

Any other freeper could answer the question.


161 posted on 10/07/2008 9:15:25 PM PDT by txhurl (Palin/McCain)
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To: Para-Ord.45

This is not a “National Review” response but a blog entry - the entire post is misleading. That said, I agree with you - McCain is less of a man than Sarah Palin and just can’t seem to bring himself to “tell it like it is.” That could cost us the election.


162 posted on 10/07/2008 9:15:58 PM PDT by onevoter
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To: Para-Ord.45

Why are you a CANADIAN posting this crap and stirring up dissension and attacking the Republican nominee for President???????

You’re not a classic liberal you’re a LIBERAL.


163 posted on 10/07/2008 9:16:28 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: Reagan Man

I just don’t have much hope that will happen.
Bart.


164 posted on 10/07/2008 9:16:43 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: word_warrior_bob
Yeah...everyone who thought McCain didn't do what he needed to do tonight, including Andy McCarthy of National Review, is an enemy agent. Right.

I'm honest enough to know what needed to be done tonight and to know that McCain didn't do it.

We all better pray that there are some 527's out there prepared to run the right ads from now until November 4th, or it's going to be four years of an Obama, socialist, dystopian nightmare.

He'll move for the Fairness Doctrine first thing...and then it will get interesting.

165 posted on 10/07/2008 9:17:11 PM PDT by Boagenes (I'm your huckleberry, that's just my game.)
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To: word_warrior_bob

I’m not voting for McCain either. I was never going to vote for McCain. You know, if you want a whole lot of great reasons not to vote for McCain, the Free Republic archives are a treasure trove.

The Republican Party doesn’t own my vote and they have to earn it like everyone else. Nominating John McCain was one of the ways for them to fail to get my vote this year.


166 posted on 10/07/2008 9:17:40 PM PDT by Mr. Know It All (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: word_warrior_bob; briansb; MAK1179
Please stop with the whiney @ssed accusations because I don't see the same rosy picture you do. You just implied that I'm some sort of troll from some other place and that I don't belong on a conservative board.  That's about a tenth of an inch from an accusation so watch your words.  And while we're at it, please recall that this is a CONSERVATIVE board and not a Republican board.  Remind yourself of that when you get your feelings hurt that someone might have criticized this weak POS candidate we've brought to the dance.

I'll not pretend otherwise,  McCain was not my favorite and you'll find posts from back in the primary season indicating my true feelings for the man.  That was then and this is now.  He's all we got, but the least he could do is represent himself well.

You are becoming the annoying one here, rather than face the reality of what's happening, you decide to scapegoat the people here calling it like it is.

Face up to what just happened here tonight. Whether intentional or not, McCain failed to do his part.  He has the material to put Obama away and we're below 29 days to show time.  What's he waiting on?

I've been a conservative since I was 12 years old and voted a straight Republican ticket every election since 1980 with one exception. I live in CT and for that single time last election, I voted for Lieberman who ran as an independent and I did it ONLY because he supported the military and Iraq.

Do not pretend to lecture me on conservative values or about this pretend election I'm watching. I don't know who you think you are but it's rather unbecoming watching you pretend you know how to spot the trolls. Get over yourself.

167 posted on 10/07/2008 9:17:44 PM PDT by Lloyd227 (Class of 1998 (for the moderators who tend to think we don't support McCain enough))
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To: Para-Ord.45

Screw yourself stupid dumb ass! the election is between a moderate Republican and Lucifer! Does it take more than one brain cell to figure this one out?!


168 posted on 10/07/2008 9:17:54 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Lloyd227

And #168 goes for you too!


169 posted on 10/07/2008 9:18:44 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Emperor Palpatine

BO has a lot more to fear from the truth than our side does - we can’t hold back.

Our choice of candidates this year wasn’t great ( I was for Fred) and thank God Mac chose someone who outshines all candidates from either side. She’s doing a great job of getting the facts out.


170 posted on 10/07/2008 9:18:57 PM PDT by Aria ("An America that could elect Sarah Palin might still save itself." Vin Suprynowicz)
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To: Boagenes

I’m doing more than that-me, and my 10 siblings, and their mostly adult children, and all my HUGE family, all over the South and some in the Pacific Northwest and some in the Atlantic Corridor, are making sure to contact our HUGE cirlce of friends, family, and acquaintances, and fellow church members, and make sure they’re aware of Obama’s history, stances on issues, and voting record, especially his votes to allow baby murder and his radical ties. Yes, we care about the economy, but we grew up poor, it doesn’t scare us-a morally degenerate country does, there’s no coming back from that slide.


171 posted on 10/07/2008 9:19:57 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: Emperor Palpatine

I didn’t know that. NRO is normally okay.


172 posted on 10/07/2008 9:21:07 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (The LA Times, 10/6/08, was told to cut "75 editorial positions." How many are needed for 2 pages?)
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To: word_warrior_bob
Ok, so you’re NOT VOTING FOR MCCAIN, are you here to stir up dissension and get MORE people not to vote for McCain??

A vote for anyone but McCain is a vote for Obama.

It really is that simple.

173 posted on 10/07/2008 9:21:47 PM PDT by GCC Catholic (Sour grapes make terrible whine.)
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To: Crazieman
No, he's going to get *elected*. And then we have Sarah Palin set up for President in 2012.

I'm not voting for McCain, I'm voting for Palin.

Cheers!

174 posted on 10/07/2008 9:23:09 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Crazieman

If your purpose here is to bash McCain and insult other posters I suggest you leave, we don’t want you doom and gloomers here, we are voting against Obama and for Palin.

You haven’t posted much until tonight and your only purpose is to cause dissension, we all know McCain’s flaws, your are far worse.


175 posted on 10/07/2008 9:23:22 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Now is not the time to press the panic button. If you take out the secret sauce in recent polls, +5% - +10% Dem weightings, the race is tied nationally and in Battleground states.

This election will come down to turnout and it’s obvious the MSM is doing their best to depress the Repub base. I gotta admit, though, that McCain ain’t helping.


176 posted on 10/07/2008 9:23:47 PM PDT by bailmeout (There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and home cooked polls)
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To: Crazieman

The nation surviving is more important than anyone’s principles.

How &*^%%^$%^$^%976459ing selfish of you to vote for Obama by default.


177 posted on 10/07/2008 9:24:31 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.")
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To: AmericaUnited; briansb; MAK1179
"Screw yourself stupid dumb ass! the election is between a moderate Republican and Lucifer! Does it take more than one brain cell to figure this one out?!"

I agree with '...the election is between a moderate Republican and Lucifer!'

Don't you head in the sand people get it? That's EXACTLY why I'm getting so passionate about this!! We absolutely MUST win this election, but I'm beside myself watching our candidate throwing away chances handed to him on a silver platter.

Look, I am not trying to diminish our chance of winning at all, but McCain has simply got to try, we can't do it for him and wishful thinking does absolutely nothing.

178 posted on 10/07/2008 9:24:31 PM PDT by Lloyd227 (Class of 1998 (for the moderators who tend to think we don't support McCain enough))
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To: GCC Catholic

“A vote for anyone but McCain is a vote for Obama.”

Horse hockey.

A vote for Obama is a vote for Obama. If you don’t vote for Obama, you don’t vote for Obama. There’s not enough Catholic guilt on the planet to make me apologize for voting for the candidate I feel is best.

It’s not McCain, but it’s also not Obama.


179 posted on 10/07/2008 9:25:09 PM PDT by Mr. Know It All (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: Boagenes

Andy McCarthy? As in Andrew McCarthy? If so, he hasn’t been a conservative in a coon’s age.


180 posted on 10/07/2008 9:25:52 PM PDT by mrsmel
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