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Time after time McCain let hussein get away with the big lie of 'bush`s failed economy created the financial crisis/ clinton ran a surplus,etc'.

McCain blew telling the truth about the CRA,Fannie Mae, Frank and Dodd ad allowed the Big Lie to become the truth.

He blew the economic debate, the dominant issue.

1 posted on 10/07/2008 8:31:11 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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I didn’t like the format of the debate. I thought the questions were too filtered down. McCain did well once he settled down. Obama talked in circles. However, I wish the people had more freedom in their questions, and that McCain would have gone after him more.


64 posted on 10/07/2008 8:43:48 PM PDT by GOPyouth ("That One!")
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McCain sucked tonight.
Obama stunk, as usual.

This was one boring debate and McCain did himself no good.


67 posted on 10/07/2008 8:44:23 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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I heard Obama say he would fine me if my kids don’t have health insurance.

I heard him say I’d get fined if I don’t get health insurance for my small business employees.

I heard him say we shouldn’t take our kid to the ER for an asthma attack.

He said he’d sit down with loonie dictators without preconditions.

I learned he’ll announce his military plans prior to implementing them.

I heard him say we need more regulation of the economy.

I heard he planned to consult his proud American wife Michelle if he didn’t know something.

I heard he votes straight party line.

He voted for every tax increase that came up, while pushing some idea of lowering taxes.

I heard he considers health care a right. A RIGHT. Like, the right to assemble or bear arms.

On McCain’s end, I heard he wanted to buy up and re-negotiate mortgages on houses that have dipped heavily in value.

McCain also listed by name non-partisan watchdog groups for those who don’t just want to listen to rhetoric.

So no, I don’t think Obama came off as a centrist.


72 posted on 10/07/2008 8:45:40 PM PDT by Marie2 (Everything the left does has the effect and intent of destroying the traditional family.)
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I agree with you para-ord.45.
Seemed like McCain was not fully in the game.
He lost several opportunities to SLAM Obama with what Obama had just said. Didn’t happen.

McCain stuck to his script.
Pretty conservative approach - I guess thats why I see so many comments on how the debate was “boring”.

By the way, got a couple ParaOrd .45s myself.


74 posted on 10/07/2008 8:46:18 PM PDT by XHogPilot
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“I’m dumbfounded that no one else seems to think so.”

I disagree. You don’t seem founded at all.


79 posted on 10/07/2008 8:47:18 PM PDT by jessduntno (Good Grief.)
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We can start early voting on Oct. 20th. and as much as I dislike McCain I am going to CRAWL to vote if I must to keep that Marxist arrogant piece of crap, Obama, out of office.
85 posted on 10/07/2008 8:49:17 PM PDT by kcvl
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I support Mccain...just gave again today.

But he ain’t winning right now and it don’t look good

damn shame....best VP nod since Jefferson


86 posted on 10/07/2008 8:49:17 PM PDT by wardaddy (i can see now why despots always purge the media first.....if I had a rocket launcher)
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We can start early voting on Oct. 20th. and as much as I dislike McCain I am going to CRAWL to vote if I must to keep that Marxist arrogant piece of crap, Obama, out of office.
87 posted on 10/07/2008 8:49:34 PM PDT by kcvl
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This was not the holy-grail of win or lose tonight.

as our next president would say, "Patience my friends".

There are still many days to go before election day and a new revelation of awareness of the exposure of the evil doer B. Hussein Osama.

88 posted on 10/07/2008 8:49:42 PM PDT by Rapunzel (Never forget Fallujah..S. Helvenston RIP.....Sarah...Sarah...Sarah loves America)
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I disagree with this premise. McCain actually came across to “Joe-six pack” as more knowledgeable and more credible on the economy tonight, I thought. Those predisposed to like Obama still do, and those predisposed to like McCain still do. Those who don’t know yet, I am convinced they won’t vote.

The real voters available to McCain are the 25% of white, blue collard democrats uncomfortable with Obama because he is liberal or black or inexperienced or not a Clinton. Those are the voters McCain can get, and should get. You get them with center-right arguments on fiscal policy, conservative culture issues and strong talk on national defense.


89 posted on 10/07/2008 8:49:49 PM PDT by wastedpotential (Proud to be in McCain country in the Buckeye State)
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Power is the chief preoccupation of the Democratic Party and those who are behind Obama. Distrusting the individual, because this is what threatens their power. The politic speak of government giving the “people” something is really about giving power to the government and distrust of the individual.

We value what it means to be an individual. We are preoccupied with the individual as the measure of freedom. The individual’s strength of spirit is something important.

The Democratic Party of today is about bringing fear to us, and telling us we have no strength – they are actually attacking our strength of spirit.

The individual is up against many powerful interests. Because the individual’s strength of spirit must at least keep pace with the expansion of bureaucratic, economic and scientific power, which without our spirit we as individuals would be beaten into a robot slave against these interests.

The fact of the matter is the Democratic Party represents those type of interests who are against the individual, and the face of those interests is the government.

On the outcome of this race between the individual and power depends the future of modern civilization.

And tonight I feel very sad.

I think America is about the to make a horrific mistake in judgment.

I think Americans, those who are going to be the cause of this, should also pay the consequences – which they will sooner than they think due to their own mistakes. No one will have to punish them, it will be the government itself of which they are surrendering their individual freedom to for bread which will punish them.

It wasn’t Wall Street that did this to them.

Really, too many Americans are doing it to themselves, and now it is going to be very bad for them sooner than they think upon their own doing.

Again I say, now we need ask ourselves and have a real conversation with ourselves, what we need to do to align with our own, with our values, and families, and decide where we can go for our own country again – because it won’t be the politicians who are going to pull the rabbit out of the hat this time.

It won’t be McCain, now. So how about we start thinking about what we are going to do on our own.


93 posted on 10/07/2008 8:50:32 PM PDT by Brian_Baldwin
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Considering the stock market is way down, and we don’t know where the bottom is, McCain is doing remarkably well. Obama should be way ahead.


94 posted on 10/07/2008 8:50:41 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Does Obama know ANYONE who likes America, capitalism, or white people?)
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Actually the NRO will probably be doing more and more articles like this.

This increases the numbers of links back to the NRO, and affects their page views, search engine rankings, and advertising revenue.


98 posted on 10/07/2008 8:51:27 PM PDT by o2bfree
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McCarthy is dead wrong.

This was another sucker punch by McCain -- this time, not against Obama, but against the MSM.

They were loaded for bear to accuse him of being an unsympathetic, angry white man (hint of racism) and definitely "out of touch".

So all the questions at first were Obama softballs on "how bad does the economy suck".

Obama was too flustered over Ayers to respond coherently at first, while McCain staggers around like the old man from a laxative commercial. See, I'm your harmless old grandpa, not a hater.

Then in the second half of the event, when they get to foreign policy, Obama is shaky and McCain castrates him on Israel, Pockt-stan, and genocide.

Why aren't you screaming from the ROOFTOPS that WW II *was* our response to the Holocaust?

Cheers!

99 posted on 10/07/2008 8:51:43 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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Nail. Meet. Head.

That's why I opened the bottle of single-malt tonight...

103 posted on 10/07/2008 8:52:40 PM PDT by Boagenes (I'm your huckleberry, that's just my game.)
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What are you missing? I don't know, a spine maybe?

So Obama showed up and didn't wet his pants and beg for mommy, did you REALLY expect that would happen?

The format sucks, the debate was a snooze fest, big deal. If he's REALLY 9 points behind he's toast anyway, if he's not this won't matter.

104 posted on 10/07/2008 8:52:59 PM PDT by jpf (go phillies!)
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Great post. I agree with everything you said.


118 posted on 10/07/2008 8:56:30 PM PDT by stockstrader (VOTE DEMOCRATIC--it's so much easier than thinking.)
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McCain may be. But is Sarah?

He's just another bum Senator.

I'm voting for her.

128 posted on 10/07/2008 8:57:56 PM PDT by onedoug ( Barracuda!)
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I agree for the most part with the OP.
McCain looked old and tired, stammered, and again let opportunities get away to hit Obama where it hurts.

Obama looked confident and sure of himself. His line of BS and lies were smoothly delivered with a minumum of stuttering. Dumb a$$ America, fresh from their sitcoms and six paks probably ate it all up- none the wiser.

REMIND McCAIN THAT HE HAS AN OBLIGATION AS OUR CANDIDATE TO FIGHT BACK!

To h*ll with bipartisian BS!
To h*ll with PC!
To h*ll with ‘conducting a respectful campaign’as McCain has said, and vowed to do.

RESPECTFUL CAMPAIGNING WENT STRAIGHT OUT THE WINDOW WITH OBAMA’S NASTY, BRUTAL COMMENTS SUCH AS;
‘lipstick on a pig’ and ‘You can wrap AN OLD FISH in a piece of paper called change. It’s still going to stink after eight years.’

Take off the gloves, McCain!

Hit the Marxist/Muslim hard with Ayers, Acorn, Violation of Logan Act, abortion, 2nd admendment, Campaigning for Odinga!!

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Obama went to Kenya on our tax dollar to campaign for the murderous Islam-backed Odinga:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QcpdUtxNQ&feature=related
SHORT VERSION:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1P_P8lBCsE

Obama talks about Ayers giving him a job:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=D-45A6I.


134 posted on 10/07/2008 9:01:51 PM PDT by patriot08
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I normally enjoy the NRO crew (lots of insightful analysis) but their knee-jerk negatitivy is getting tiresome, and the quickness with which some of them abandon ship is disturbing. There is still a month left, plenty of time to rip Obama for Ayers/Reszko/Wright/Fannie & Freddie/corruption/weak foreign policy, e.g, the $3 million to a Chicago planetarium, followed by a $200K contribution to Obama from the owner. Tonight’s debate laid the foundation for the coming attack. For example, expect to hear mor eabout the proposal to relieve hte pressure on homeowners to keep them in their homes wile Obama proposees to stick it to small businesses.

It seems NRO was more interested in having McCain tell Obama off — it would have felt cathartic but self-defeating. McCain did not do that, and like the snob who relentlessly positions himself to be “proven right” no matter what the outcome, NRO wants to declare the race over so they can “I told you so” for the next 4 years. My father told me a test of character is whether you want to be in a foxhole with him/her when the assault begins. With these NRO panic-types, I would never turn my back to them!


139 posted on 10/07/2008 9:05:20 PM PDT by RecallMoran (Recall Brodhead)
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