Posted on 10/08/2008 7:14:53 AM PDT by Yomin Postelnik
Here’s a prediction: If the networks are still around in all their glorious gory (sic) in four years, the winner of the first presidential debate will be the Democratic nominee. He or she will go on to win the second and the third debate, this streak being interrupted only by the victory in his/her own right of the Democratic vice presidential nominee during of ’12 veep debates.
And here’s another prediction. If the pompous cast of liberals at ABC are still made up of the same group of clueless windbags in 2016, the Democrats will be the hands down winners of the entire debating season. In fact, if Robert Byrd, Barney Frank, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi ever form their own baseball team, you may as well cancel the World Series, as the outcome will be a foregone conclusion, at least in the eyes of the media. Indeed, who needs Roger Clemens at the mound when you can have Charlie Rangel?
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Spot on.
yeah, he won the debate but will still lose the election. McCain can’t debate his way out of a paper bag.
“(the one in which Kerry attacks Cheney’s daughter as Bush delivers the funniest line in recent presidential sparring history).”
What was the line? I don’t remember!!!
He’ll win! He’s already closed the gap to 2 points according to Zogby. Republicans usually do 3 points better than the polls. Anyone watching will have seen the difference. He could have nailed Obama better a few times, and I sure hope he will next week, but he won.
That was not a “debate,” anyway. I’m sure McCain could debate quite handily if he were in such a debate. This “debate” was soft-ball questions that just gave each candidate the chance to repeat some stump speeches. In fact, the only one who even occasionally tried to answer a specific question was McCain; Obama simply did stump speeches all along, sometimes even confusing them and using the wrong speech for the question.
But McCain projected confidence in America, optimism and a certain stubbornness, and I think this was what came out of the evening. Obama seemed, as usual, pompous at one moment and nervous and angry at the next. Also, his stunt of insisting that he be allowed extra time didn’t look good, and I think even Brokaw, who no doubt is an Obama groupie, didn’t like it. At one point, Obama started to jump out of his chair in the direction of McCain, and that didn’t look good, either.
I think calm and optimism is going to win it. McCain has won a lot of elections, and he’s never been any way other than he is right now.
“Spot on.”
You got it. We had an interesting reaction in my house. I am completely in McCain’s corner, believing that he and Palin won the previous debates hands down. My wife is not too excited about McCain and is trying as hard as she can to be objective. Her conclusions after the previous debates were that Obama won the first one, and (despite the fact that Palin performed admirably) Biden won the second one.
Last night, she continued to be middle of the road, objective. I was rooting for McCain. She told me to be quiet and listen. At the end of the debate, she said that there was no doubt that McCain had won the night. She said that he had done a lot better than Obama at connecting with the audience and answering the questions. Obama just rattled off a bunch of nonsense and didn’t really answer the questions. Also, she agreed with my assessment that McCain got under Obama’s skin. As the night went on, the Messiah was getting upset, stammering, making little sense, and not answering the questions.
Afterward, we flipped over to Fox to see the results of the independent voters focus group. They were already interviewing, and several of the people were talking about the candidate who “answered all the questions with detailed ideas and really did a great job of connecting with the people.” I knew they were talking about McCain. Awesome. The focus group concluded the same thing we did. Then one of the people said, “Yes, I agree. Obama really connected and told us his ideas in detail. McCain was aloof and didn’t really answer the questions.” The other people being interviewed agreed.
WHAT??????
Both my wife and I were shocked. It was like we were watching a different debate.
We couldn’t believe that the growing consensus of the experts as the night went on was that Obama had scored a clear victory.
Has the whole world gone crazy?
The day after Bush was inaugurated in 2001, I bet my brother $100 that the NY Times would endorse his opponent in the 2004 election. Easiest money I ever made.
McCain answerd questions with specific answers.
Obama did not answer anything with specificity. Just a lot of mumbling and blather.....
Did you mean democrats?
He won the debate, but he can’t debate. That doesn’t make any sense. By the way, how reliable are your predictions?
well there is a reason mccain won the fox news phone poll by a huge margin. and it wasn’t because he was confused with Ron Paul or because freepers were jumping for joy after that debate
“Canada Free Press” is an oxymoron.
Perhaps, but that was no debate!!!!! Just a question and answer session
Has anyone heard why McCain left so soon after the debate? C-Span was showing Obama and Michelle shaking hands and pic taking with audience, and had to state that the reason no film of McCain was that he and Cindy had already left.
“Has the whole world gone crazy?”
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Apparently, about 50% of it has. I have great concern for America in this election. If Obamanation and his socialist buddies win the White House, we conservatives will probably wish for the Clinton years in comparison!!!
The NY Times has not endorsed a Republican presidential candidate since Eisenhower - and they were forced to due to his overwhelming popularity. Brother is not as bright as you, I see...
No. Republicans usually do 3 points better than the polls.
Democrats are most likely to answer them and indies often tell the pollster what they think they want. 3 points is conservative.
>>>Absolutely, they were plants and it was so obvious. There was NOTHING!!!!!!!!!! that made anyone feel that way about bambi that were not feeling that way before they walked into the room.<<<
You know? Bambi and Obama DO have alot in common. Both were not raised with their fathers around, and there mothers are not really mentioned....
It really seemed to me that McCain wasn’t feeling tip top His whole body seemed to hurt whenever he moved. They might have left right away due to that. I know he has pain from his POW injuries, but maybe it was worse last night. Hope I’m wrong.
Livius, thanks for posting your take on the debate. We were out, couldn’t watch, but I am not sure I could have, anyway. Good to hear that O screwed up and even Brokaw was irritated. Good to hear that Obama was pompous and then aggravated.
I hate that format, anyway. Much prefer Lincoln-Douglass free-for-alls.
I actually watched the CNN equivalent of the Luntz group. On CNN 14 "independents" felt McCain did a better job. Only 11 thought Obama did. That was a shocker.
Love it!
No you must have been watching a different debate than most of us. McCain wandered around like an old man who had lost his car in the parking lot, seldom ending a thought before jumping to another often unrelated one. Bambi wasn’t much better, but he sounds so much better. He doesn’t say anything, but he says it so well. McCain doesn’t say anything, but sadly it is obvious that he isn’t.
He probably couldn’t stand being in the same room with an enemy of America
It was past his bedtime.
Since the debate is over who is the most accomplished and capable socialist, it was inevitable that John McCain would win a debate with Barack Obama.
Brokaw wrecked the ship last night...he was completely useless as a ‘moderator’...Give it up Tom...go play golf or something...PLEASE!!!!!
Bingo!
“Why did McCain and Cindy leave so fast after the debate”
I think he was on his 35th hour of Lavitra!
Brokaw’s ruined MTP. I didn’t like Tim all the time, but at least he was interesting.
I think we’re saying the same thing. If a poll says Obama 47% McCain 45%, in reality McCain is 1% up. Most polls are skewed to favor democrats as there are more of them registered. I think Rasmussen weighs this into the results.
Since Palin came aboard, MORE people than before she came aboard are saying that they’re republican.
I’m not sure if that’s still the case.
In summary, if the polls are statistically even, then it favors the republican candidate.
Add to this the Bradey effect and Obama needs to be up at least by 5% points or more. Does this make sense?
If the Bradley Effect alters polls, how much more so on-air interviews?
Thanks :)
Yes, 100%. He’s set to lose OH and PA based on that. Agreed 100%.
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