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Sheriff in Ill. county won't evict in foreclosures
Ap News:MyWay ^ | Oct 8 2008 | AP

Posted on 10/08/2008 3:32:06 PM PDT by blueyon

CHICAGO (AP) - Residents of foreclosed properties in Chicago and other parts of Cook County don't have to worry about deputies forcing them out. Sheriff Tom Dart says that starting Thursday his office won't take part in evictions.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.myway.com ...


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KEYWORDS: evictionchicago; foreclosures; leo
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Read the rest of the story as it is interesting to say the least..................
1 posted on 10/08/2008 3:32:06 PM PDT by blueyon
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To: blueyon

What a mess. Can’t really blame the sheriff either.


2 posted on 10/08/2008 3:35:09 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Paying taxes for bank bailouts is apparently the patriotic thing to do. [/sarc])
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To: blueyon

Chicago should forfeit all Federal funding until they agree to enforce the law.


3 posted on 10/08/2008 3:35:26 PM PDT by Gaffer ("Arguing with a Liberal is like not wiping yourself after taking a dump" Scatological, but true.)
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To: Gaffer

I suggest you read the article before posting.


4 posted on 10/08/2008 3:36:55 PM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98...Ain't no Newbie!)
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To: Gaffer
Did you read the read of the artcle?

The sheriff is basically saying he doesn't want to evict renters of apartments, townhomes, etc. because they were paying the rent while the owner wasn't paying the mortgage.
5 posted on 10/08/2008 3:37:43 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: cripplecreek

“Can’t really blame the sheriff either.”

Oh really?


6 posted on 10/08/2008 3:37:53 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: A_Tradition_Continues

I don’t care what the article says, they are required to obey lawful instruments, PERIOD! It is not up to law enforcement to ponder and debate the merits of a particular case, nor is it up to them to make blanket assessment. I don’t give a rat’s ass about extenuating circumstances - whatever, they should obey the law and enforce it. It is up to the legal establishment to judge the merits.....


7 posted on 10/08/2008 3:40:02 PM PDT by Gaffer ("Arguing with a Liberal is like not wiping yourself after taking a dump" Scatological, but true.)
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To: randomhero97

It doesn’t make any difference. The property owner’s rights must be upheld. The people must be evicted no matter if they were paying their rent.


8 posted on 10/08/2008 3:41:17 PM PDT by em2vn
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To: em2vn

Yeah, you’re right. This is another one of those “slippery slope” arguments. You can either be for private ownership of property or against it, there’s really no in between.


9 posted on 10/08/2008 3:44:09 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: randomhero97

Unless the law says that the new owner is obligated to provide free rent to people squatting on the property, the sheriff is refusing to provide quiet title to the property. that’s why the sheriff’s department goes there to perform the eviction, and not community organizers. The sheriff is supposed to enforce the law, not interpret it as he sees fit.


10 posted on 10/08/2008 3:44:48 PM PDT by Bernard (If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember exactly what you said.)
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To: Gaffer
It is not up to law enforcement to ponder and debate the merits of a particular case, nor is it up to them to make blanket assessment.

Illinois law requires all tennants be provided a 120 day notice of eviction when associated with bankruptcy. In the case the report is referring none of the tennants have been notified and continued paying rent. The owners collected the rents, along with loan proceeds and fled the country. BY LAW, these people cannot be evicted for at least another 120 days.

BTW...it is the Courts error in not providing notices. Numerous other cases within Cook County have also been reported.

11 posted on 10/08/2008 3:45:29 PM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98...Ain't no Newbie!)
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To: Bernard

I agree, read my post #9.


12 posted on 10/08/2008 3:47:25 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: em2vn
The property owner’s rights must be upheld.

True, but given the recent history of mortgages being sliced, diced, repackaged and resold multiple times, I think it's reasonable for a mortgage holder to document properly the provenance of his ownership before eviction can take place.

13 posted on 10/08/2008 3:48:26 PM PDT by Notary Sojac
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To: A_Tradition_Continues

Now, you bring up the LAW - at least we’re talking about the same thing now. It is still not up to Law ENFORCEMENT to determine whether these people have valid excuses or just scamming like many do. What we’re talking about are property rights and ownership. If rights have been abrogated, legal recourse is available. It his highly unlikely that the instruments were issued with having the benefit of completed the legal requirements for such. My advice is to consider the bleeding heart press’ motivation for writing this story in the first place.


14 posted on 10/08/2008 3:50:11 PM PDT by Gaffer ("Arguing with a Liberal is like not wiping yourself after taking a dump" Scatological, but true.)
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To: em2vn
The people must be evicted no matter if they were paying their rent.

Ve ver only dooink our chobs putting the chews on the trains, it vas ze law!

People who think like you make great nazis.

15 posted on 10/08/2008 3:50:59 PM PDT by oneolcop (Lead, Follow or Get the hell out of the way!)
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To: blueyon

Can’t really tell what’s happening here. In most places, if not all, the tenant must be joined in the foreclosure process if you want to get rid of him. So I don’t see how the tenant could not know that the landlord is not paying the mortgage.

It’s not really for the sheriff to decide whether the tenant can be removed. That’s for the courts to decide in most locales.

My suspicion is that his refusal to enforce the law is based on his ignorance of how the law works. If the tenant says he did not know that the landlord was being foreclosed, then I would check to see if he was joined in the foreclosure process. If so, he’s out of luck.

If he’s stopping evictions where the tenant was joined, then I suspect that if this continues, there won’t be too many lenders willing to make mortgage loans in his county.


16 posted on 10/08/2008 3:51:16 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: blueyon

It may be that US law is different than in most of the rest of the world, but a landlord foreclosing doesn’t automatically mean that the tenants are liable for eviction. When the owner defaults, the property goes to the bank but the bank still has to honor existing rental contracts unless, of course, the tenant is behind on the rent or in some other way in violation of the rental contract.

Also, evicting a tenant who is paying the rent seems like pretty bad business.

I could be wrong about this so if anyone knows better, please enlighten me.


17 posted on 10/08/2008 3:51:20 PM PDT by SwedishConservative
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To: cripplecreek

Can’t really blame the sheriff either.


Hmmm....I wonder how long the rest of us would last if we suddenly announce we don’t want to (or can’t) carry out our job responsibilities any more. Or maybe that’s the new American way. G-d help us.


18 posted on 10/08/2008 3:52:45 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: oneolcop

You sound like a ‘thought-Nazi’ yourself, fella. Does the phrase ‘rule of law’ mean anything to you?


19 posted on 10/08/2008 3:53:19 PM PDT by Gaffer ("Arguing with a Liberal is like not wiping yourself after taking a dump" Scatological, but true.)
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To: A_Tradition_Continues

I don’t know how it is in Ill., but most of the foreclosures in Cal are not part of a bankruptcy.


20 posted on 10/08/2008 3:58:43 PM PDT by nufsed
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