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Tracking Polls Continue Trend towards McCain
realclearpolitics ^ | OCT 9 2008 | housedeep

Posted on 10/09/2008 6:35:45 AM PDT by housedeep

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To: housedeep
still think Rasmussen has a deeply flawed poll

So is Zogby. I was one of those polled by him a couple of years ago and since the last election he dropped me from his contact lists. I think I was too biased to the ummmm right. For example I would fill out a "Pre-Debate" survey and then ask to be e-mailed the "Post-Debate" followup and it would never happen. I think Zogby "cherry picks" the poll answers so he gets a result that he wants in order to benefit his business AND benefit liberals.

21 posted on 10/09/2008 7:04:08 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: CatOwner

If anything it seems like McCain got a very small boost from the other night’s debate. Surprising since CNN and CBS said their polls showed obama won by some ridiculous margins.

Just maybe all that talk of landslide is a tad premature.


22 posted on 10/09/2008 7:06:02 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: The Great RJ
Despite the gains, McCain will have to do better in the next debate than in the last snore fest. While Obama was glib he was just repeating the same old mantras. McCain needs to take lessons from Palin and get some fire in the belly and call Obama on the carpet about Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright. How about asking Lord Obama what he thinks about those who call on God to curse America.

I'm not sure Ayers has a lot of traction in a debate. Remember that these debates are presumably trying to reach undecided voters. Most of these undecideds idiots don't know who Ayers even is or who the Weathermen were. They also neither know nor care about Rezko. If McCain brings them up in a debate, he has to first educate the viewers as to what he is talking about.

If he wants to hit Obama with these guys, he has to do better than Bill O'Reilly, who merely asked general questions like "What about Ayers? What about Rezko? What about Rev. Wright?", giving Obama an easy out when he merely claimed he hardly knew the people in question. Rev. Wright has the most traction IMO because Obama and family attended the church for twenty years. Even if Obama tries to sidestep Wright, one can come back with Obama's own words in his self-adulatory autobiographies as to how important Wright was as a spiritual mentor and father-figure.

Of course, with these undecideds idiots, any such attack may come off as mean. I think McCain did well in the last debate by coming off as calm and reasoned. If, as many here have stated, this election is a referendum on Obama, then McCain may have gained ground in the last debate by appearing to be the guy to trust in the hard times to come.

23 posted on 10/09/2008 7:09:30 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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To: TNCMAXQ
It's hard to say. McCain was getting nailed in the polls due to the economic news. So, Congress passes a bailout bill and the stock markets still tank. The Fed steps in to help, and at least initially, the markets continue downward.

Maybe some people (excluding liberals!) have figured out that McCain is not at fault for the economy. If the economy becomes a neutral issue in that neither candidate has an advantage, then McCain will come out ahead.

24 posted on 10/09/2008 7:10:15 AM PDT by CatOwner
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To: ExSoldier
I don't think Zogby is on the up and up either. I used to get polls about politics and I was strictly right wing. I got a poll a few days ago and it was about which expensive car I wanted. I DON'T WANT A MAZARATTI YOU A-HOLE, I AM A TRUCKIN’ WOMAN, I DRIVE A TAHOE!
25 posted on 10/09/2008 7:10:33 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Sans-Culotte

“Even if Obama tries to sidestep Wright, one can come back with Obama’s own words in his self-adulatory autobiographies as to how important Wright was as a spiritual mentor and father-figure.”


Did Obama record a “book on tape” for his autobiographies? If so, the McCain campaign could literally use Obama’s own voice along with his own words praising Wright and saying how important he is in his life. An ad with Obama reading from his own autobiography, while the screen shows Jeremiah Wright along with the words of his most vicious sermons, could be very effective.


26 posted on 10/09/2008 7:13:39 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Fred Thompson appears human-sized because he is actually standing a million miles away.)
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To: TNCMAXQ

I think you should let the Obots believe victory is at hand. The types he attracts (the lazy, the slovenly, the government hand out types) won’t get out of bed on election day.

By the time they shuffle over to the Social Security Office out of their drunken stupor, it will be Wednesday afternoon seeing people in tears about President-Elect McCain.


27 posted on 10/09/2008 7:14:44 AM PDT by rom (Cold on McCain '08. Enthusiastic about McCain-Palin '08!)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

I am still concerned about the state polls. Let’s see if they start to trend back in the next day or so. I can’t believe NC, IN are in play. McCain has to hold all of W’s states and right now he is trailing in all of them, except MO I think. The MSM keeps harping on this, plus Obama is running Ads 3:1 in these states. Also, I can’t believe Fox news is running Obama ads??? How many Obama supporters watch Fox? Seems like a waste of $$ to me....


28 posted on 10/09/2008 7:19:25 AM PDT by davek70
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To: housedeep
I have said this in other threads:

Most polls have a large enough group of "undecided" voters to push one or the other over the top and through the margin of error. I have a tendency to believe most people find pollsters as intrusive and annoying as Jehovah's Witnesses at your door. Saying I'm undecided makes them just go away. I don't really believe there are that many people who have not decided one way or another. I also don't believe they're voting for Obama, either.

29 posted on 10/09/2008 7:23:49 AM PDT by edpc
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Unlike in years past, they are reporting the Registered Voters poll and not the Likely Voter breakout to show a bigger lead for Fauxbama. Usually, they have about +6 for the Republican when looking at LV.


30 posted on 10/09/2008 7:32:03 AM PDT by jps098
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To: IrishMike

I like to point out that the last time a Democrat ran against an unpopular Republican president who wasn’t on the ballot we got Jimmy Carter. The point usually works well on anyone that lived through the Carter years.


31 posted on 10/09/2008 7:32:29 AM PDT by Red Dog #1 (Up is down and down is up...)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
Did Obama record a “book on tape” for his autobiographies?

He did, because Hugh Hewitt has played excerpts from both The Audacity of Hope and Dreams From My Father on the radio. However, I do not know if they are complete or abridged.

32 posted on 10/09/2008 7:34:47 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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To: The Great RJ

Bring up Obama’s brother. If everybody learns about Obama’s brother, they won’t vote for him.


33 posted on 10/09/2008 7:45:22 AM PDT by TypeZoNegative (Pro life & Vegan because I respect all life, Republican because our enemies don't respect ours.)
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To: TNCMAXQ
Just maybe all that talk of landslide is a tad premature.

It's all designed to demoralize the right and keep them home. Ignore the polls and continue on fighting.
34 posted on 10/09/2008 7:56:05 AM PDT by CottonBall
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To: housedeep
McCain has razor thin victory with 274 electoral votes

Does that include the massive ACORN voter fraud that will occur nationwide this year?

35 posted on 10/09/2008 7:56:20 AM PDT by Mogollon ($5/gal Gas....Kick the Jacka$$es Out!)
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To: housedeep

If McCain is gaining ground it certainly has nothing to do with Tuesday’s debate. I think emails being circulated on the internet with real information about Obama are starting to help McCain. I probably get 4 or 5 a day.


36 posted on 10/09/2008 7:58:48 AM PDT by TruthWillWin
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To: housedeep
Maybe...but I'm hedging my bets:


37 posted on 10/09/2008 8:00:12 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Government that is powerful enough to protect you is only one election away from attacking you.)
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To: housedeep

BTTT


38 posted on 10/09/2008 8:00:31 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: housedeep

It’s time to drop the “Raila Odinga” bomb. A real game changer when looking at Obama’s associations with bad people.


39 posted on 10/09/2008 8:01:25 AM PDT by TruthWillWin
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To: CatOwner

Exactly, this is what was working so well minths ago - the “who is this guy” thing. Actually the debates kind of suck because people see Obama and think that they know him.


40 posted on 10/09/2008 8:24:33 AM PDT by toddausauras
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