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A New Ice Age? (Will even Gore face the evidence?)*
American Conservative Union Foundation ^ | Issue 117 - October 9, 2008 | Alan Caruba

Posted on 10/09/2008 6:47:04 AM PDT by IbJensen

There’s a wonderful irony in the fact that, back in the 1970s, the Greens were issuing warnings and even writing books about the coming Ice Age. They would abandon this issue, based in well-known and accepted solar science, in favor of a vast international hoax alleging man-made global warming.

As the global warming hoax begins to lose its power to influence public opinion and policy, the Greens are not likely to be heeded for a long time to come because they were right about an Ice Age and lying through their teeth about global warming.

Scientists and laymen who follow the Ice Age cycles have been warning that, if not a full-fledged Ice Age, at the very least a Little Ice Age comparable to one that lasted from 1300 to around 1850 is on its way

Amidst all the media coverage of Hurricane Gustav and the Republican Convention, a report in DailyTech.com was not likely to get much attention, but it forecast a very cold world in the years to come. The Earth has already started to cool and scientists date the change from 1998.

Headlined, “Drop in solar activity has potential effect for climate on Earth”, the news is that, for the first time in 100 years, “an entire month has passed without a single visible sunspot being noted.” The author, Michael Asher, noted that “The event is significant as many climatologists now believe solar magnetic activity—which determines the number of sunspots—is an influencing factor for climate on Earth.”

My friend, Robert W. Felix, wrote an excellent book on this titled “Not by Fire, but by Ice” ($15.00, Sugarhouse Publishing, softcover, second edition) which can be purchased from his website at IceAgeNow.com.

“We’re beginning to realize that Earth is a violent and dangerous place to live,” wrote Felix. “We’re beginning to realize that mass extinctions have been the rule, rather than the exception, for the 3.5 billion years that life has existed on Earth.”

Felix has a new book soon to be published that addresses magnetic reversals, another cyclical factor affecting life on Earth. “During the last 4.5 million years, at least six out of nine radiolarian extinctions occurred at magnetic reversals.” They appear to be a factor in the sudden emergence of new species so Darwin’s theory is likely to be reexamined.

As the DailyTech report notes, “In the past 1000 years, three previous such events, the Dalton, Maunder, and Sporer Minimums,” of reduced sunspot activity, “have all led to rapid cooling,” adding that, “For a society dependent on agriculture, cold is more damaging than heat. The growing season shortens, yields drop, and the occurrence of crop-destroying frosts increases.”

An article by William Livingston and Matthew Penn of the National Solar Observatory in Tucson, Arizona, “Sunspots May Vanish by 2015”, predicts that sunspots will disappear completely. “Such an event would not be unprecedented, since during a famous episode from 1645-1715, known as the Maunder Minimum…” That solar cycle “was shown to correspond with the reduced average global temperatures on the Earth.” In other words, it’s going to get COLD.

The Little Ice Age had an effect on history as you might imagine. The French Revolution is attributed to it insofar as the cost of bread rose as wheat crops failed. Riots followed. Similarly, Napoleon’s invasion of Russia met with defeat thanks to a winter that killed thousands of his troops. In America, it was reflected in the travails of Valley Forge.

Over at IceAgeNow.com, Felix posts the latest news from around the world that tells of anomalous events ranging from freak early snow storms to expanding glaciers. Soon enough, those living in the northern hemisphere will become more aware as winters lengthen and become more severe. After that, the scenarios grow quite serious.

Even the venerable Old Farmers Almanac is making news these days forecasting a far cooler winter and suggesting that the Earth is already in a cooling cycle.

No doubt some diehard Greens like Al Gore will continue to spout nonsense that the cold weather is due to global warming, but it has to do with the Sun that’s gone quiet. It’s not myth. It’s reality.

Alan Caruba writes a weekly column posted on the Internet site of The National Anxiety Center, www.anxietycenter.com. He blogs daily at http://factsnotfantasy.blogspot.com.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; globalcooling; gorebalwarming
*-How can he? The ManBearPig is missing a connection or two in his upper story.
1 posted on 10/09/2008 6:47:06 AM PDT by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen

Wouldn’t it be funny if the solution to stop global cooling was to burn fossil fuels?


2 posted on 10/09/2008 6:49:05 AM PDT by 11th_VA (VRWC Local 2774 - Working to make DC, RAT free)
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To: IbJensen

the only good thing about seeing it happen rapidly and soon would be watching Algor’s head explode when people stopped buying his carbon credits


3 posted on 10/09/2008 6:50:18 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: IbJensen

No sunspots. A dramatic drop in the solar wind. All portend serious and problematic cooling, which in the past has been catastrophic for large swaths of humanity. But the globull warming nutcases are still running around preaching climate Armageddon because of small increases in a minor greenhouse gas.


4 posted on 10/09/2008 6:51:39 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: IbJensen

Global warming/Ozone Hole/Ice age/Climate change

It doesn’t matter.

The goals are”

1) To throttle the free market American economy.
2) To build another layer of bureaocracy and regulations.
3) TO keep the easy, comfortable taxpayer money flowing to obscenely unproductive academics/”scientists”.


5 posted on 10/09/2008 6:52:38 AM PDT by EyeGuy (Obama will deliver America on a Leash to an envious world.)
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To: IbJensen

Latest Weather Channel headline:
GORE’S GLOBAL FLATULENCE COMES OUT COLD!


6 posted on 10/09/2008 6:53:26 AM PDT by rusureitflies? (OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD! There, I said it. Prove me wrong.)
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To: IbJensen
A bit of a different topic, but --

I used to go to the supermarket and get my groceries in brown paper bags. But then the Greens said that I was killing trees, and that I should use plastic bags instead. So I did. But then the Greens said that I was filling up landfills with plastic that never deteriorates and that I should use canvas bags instead. So I did. Well, the Wall St Journal recently has an article saying that canvas bags are bad for the environment.

Bottomline: Whatever it is that you're doing, is wrong, and the Greens want you to stop it.

7 posted on 10/09/2008 6:56:33 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I ain't gonna quit until I'm laid in my tomb and even then they better shut it tight.)
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To: IbJensen

Fairbanks, Alaska

Current Conditions: 12 degrees F and Fair

Average Low for October 9: 21 degrees F

We are in for a cold one, people...


8 posted on 10/09/2008 7:12:35 AM PDT by gridlock (The Democrats have attacked Motherhood. If they attack Baseball and Apple Pie, we got it made!)
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To: 11th_VA
Wouldn’t it be funny if the solution to stop global cooling was to burn fossil fuels?

Especially coal.

9 posted on 10/09/2008 7:12:52 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Im sure if Al Gore was around during the time of Moses and seeing the pillar of smoke, that would be attributed to global warming too, theres just some people that cant accept the truth no matter how blatantly obvious it is.


10 posted on 10/09/2008 7:14:43 AM PDT by Edizzl79
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To: ClearCase_guy
I used to go to the supermarket and get my groceries in brown paper bags. But then the Greens said that I was killing trees, and that I should use plastic bags instead. So I did. But then the Greens said that I was filling up landfills with plastic that never deteriorates and that I should use canvas bags instead. So I did. Well, the Wall St Journal recently has an article saying that canvas bags are bad for the environment.

Bottomline: Whatever it is that you're doing, is wrong, and the Greens want you to stop it.

Surely the Greenies would approve if you took one of those plastic grocery bags and re-used it to tie over you head until you suffocate, as long as it was disposed of properly afterwards by your next of kin.

11 posted on 10/09/2008 7:15:12 AM PDT by gridlock (The Democrats have attacked Motherhood. If they attack Baseball and Apple Pie, we got it made!)
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To: 11th_VA

There aren’t enough fossil fuels. If the sun decides to cool down, shut off, or blow up, it wins.


12 posted on 10/09/2008 7:15:23 AM PDT by teethodore
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To: ClearCase_guy

Only buy what you can carry in your arms. It’s the new diet craze.


13 posted on 10/09/2008 7:15:23 AM PDT by teethodore
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To: IbJensen

Actually, the greenbats have figured it out enough to begin calling it “Global Climate Change” instead of global warming. Now they can have it both ways. Pretty clever.


14 posted on 10/09/2008 7:17:35 AM PDT by SkyShot (My keboard's Y is dodgy)
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To: IbJensen

Gore is a Democrat. Reason, facts and logic are foreign to them.


15 posted on 10/09/2008 7:21:37 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: EyeGuy
No doubt you're right. It's no accident that every “solution” is something that would otherwise be a left wing goal. So let's take a little advantage of the global warming alarmist. The next time one of them starts to spout off, tell them you'll me more than happy not to debate the matter with if they'll sign a statement saying:
1) He or she is completely convince man made global warming exist.
2) Any realistic plan to fight global warming would require enormous economic and personnel sacrifices.
3) Because of the enormous cost of fighting man made global warming and his or her’s current certainty that it exist, if at some point in the future global warming is found not to exist his or her’s judgement should not be trusted.
4) Further, they will leave public office, otherwise not participate in politics and not burden us with their views anymore.

I've had zero takers to date.

16 posted on 10/09/2008 7:22:14 AM PDT by Red Dog #1 (Up is down and down is up...)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Bottomline: Whatever it is that you're doing, is wrong, and the Greens want you to stop it.

What they really want is for you to die.

17 posted on 10/09/2008 7:32:29 AM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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Tjis may sound a bit conspiratorial, but the timing has bothered me for a while.

IIRC, if we had signed on to the KP back in 97, we could have expected to see the reversal of the warming trend in a decade or so. Well, lo and behold, a decade later and the cooling trend has started, and don’t try to tell me or the snow in my pleasant Wasilla yard that it hasn’t. Could it be that they knew what the cycle was doing in advance and wanted so very desperately to be able to take credit for it? It might explain some of the heavy handed hysteria displayed.


18 posted on 10/09/2008 7:32:40 AM PDT by Gnomad
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To: teethodore
There aren’t enough fossil fuels. If the sun decides to cool down, shut off, or blow up, it wins.

While that would be true, the Sun's effect seems be somewhat less direct than that. It has more to do with the sun's magnetic field, rather than it's heat/energy output. The field is responsible for both sunspots and the solar wind. It also deflects cosmic rays. The heating and cooling seems to be related to changes in the earth's reflectivity, more than the heat/light output of the sun. That reflectivity is changed by the cloud cover, which in turn is affected by the rate of cosmic rays (actually high energy charged particles). More cosmic rays hitting the earth means more clouds which reflect more sunlight, which leads to cooling.

19 posted on 10/09/2008 7:34:20 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: teethodore
Only buy what you can carry in your arms. It’s the new diet craze.

I say just take the family to the grocery store when it is time to eat. Set up shop in the cereal isle for breakfast and send the kids to produce for some fruit. At lunch time, hang out at the lunchmeat counter and feast on some sandwiches (bread is usually close by). Dinner might be tough as I don't think the greenies want folks hauling a grill into the grocery store.

This way you never have to carry anything out.

20 posted on 10/09/2008 7:43:20 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Democrats are for Change - Let's run through a mine field at night wearing clown shoes!)
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To: teethodore

I’m going to get in on the solar credits scam at the start.


21 posted on 10/09/2008 7:45:45 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: silverleaf
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22 posted on 10/09/2008 7:49:55 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: 11th_VA
Wouldn’t it be funny if the solution to stop global cooling was to burn fossil fuels?

Problem with that is...CO2 does not cause global warming.

23 posted on 10/09/2008 7:50:14 AM PDT by Mogollon ($5/gal Gas....Kick the Jacka$$es Out!)
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To: IbJensen
they were right about an Ice Age and lying through their teeth about global warming.

No they weren't. Don't give those idiots credit.

They called for an ice age in the 70s based on a slight decrease in temperatures that lasted a few years. Their theory was that man's pollution blocked the sun's rays and cooled the earth. It was inspired by the theory that the dinosaurs were killed off by a meteor that raised dust that covered the sun and cooled the earth.

Then, in the early 80s, temperatures started to rise, slightly. They revised their theory to claim that man's pollution was responsible for the rise, by holding earth's heat in, or magnifying the rays of the sun, or whatever stupid theory they could think of. Whatever it was, they didn't think to blame it on the SUN.

In recent years, the sun has entered a sunspot cycle that is consistent with the start of a cooling period, such as we had in the Little Ice Age. So, we may have a cooling, but that does not mean that the Greens were right in the 70s. They were wrong about cooling occurring then (it was warming) and they were wrong about the cause (the sun, not human emissions).

They are idiots who want to destroy capitalism due to a simplistic, childish desire to return the mother earth to a pre-industrial state (killing off 90 percent of humans in the process), and should be given no credence about anything.

24 posted on 10/09/2008 8:05:23 AM PDT by Defiant (With Barney Frank, a reach across the aisle just becomes a reach-around.)
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To: IbJensen

We’ve been in an ice age for the 4 million years.

On average the temperatures are about 6 to 10 degrees C below normal.

The last glaciation started about 60,000 years ago and ended about 10,000 years ago.

The next glaciation is due about now (give or take a few thousand years).


25 posted on 10/09/2008 8:06:31 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: SkyShot

“Actually, the greenbats have figured it out enough to begin calling it “Global Climate Change” instead of global warming. Now they can have it both ways. Pretty clever.”

No, only if you’re stupid enough to buy their groupthink. It has to be _anthropogenic_ climate change. Otherwise, it’s Nature and inherently to be worshiped. ;-)

Once it’s clear that global cooling is a reality, the public will realize the entire global warming campaign is a hoax. Long-range climate forecasting will be discredited for the foreseeable future. Al Gore will be a laughingstock.

One hopes the famines won’t be too severe. BTW, increased CO2 content is great for plant growth, supposedly right now human CO2 contribution is causing 30% faster plant growth than normal. We’ll need it with the short growing seasons.


26 posted on 10/09/2008 8:08:23 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: 11th_VA
Some think it is the solution.

http://www.soton.ac.uk/mediacentre/news/2007/aug/07_100.shtml

"Humanity has to date burnt about 300 Gt C of fossil fuels. This work suggests that even if only 1000 Gt C (gigatonnes of carbon) are eventually burnt (out of total reserves of about 4000 Gt C) then it is likely that the next ice age will be skipped. Burning all recoverable fossil fuels could lead to avoidance of the next five ice ages." (Dr Toby Tyrrell of the University of Southampton's School of Ocean and Earth Science at the National Oceanography Centre, Southampton.)
27 posted on 10/09/2008 8:08:39 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Mogollon

Water vapor is the +90%, temperature regulating “Greenhouse gas” (not a true gas at all, of course...it’s water)


28 posted on 10/09/2008 8:21:12 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: Red Dog #1

Yes.

Shovelers of leftist horseh$hit in general scurry like so many cockroaches when the kitchen light goes on, under the scrutiny of accountability, solid common sense or normal market forces.


29 posted on 10/09/2008 9:18:22 AM PDT by EyeGuy (Obama will deliver America on a Leash to an envious world.)
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To: IbJensen; proud_yank; FrPR; enough_idiocy; rdl6989; IrishCatholic; Normandy; Delacon; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

30 posted on 10/09/2008 9:32:37 AM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: ClearCase_guy

Bottomline: Whatever it is that you’re doing, is wrong, and the Greens want you to stop it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Here is what the greens want you to do. Take off all your clothing and dispose of it in a non-polluting manner, don’t ask me I don’t know how either, lie down and die in an area where your body will be consumed by wild animals or fall in a stream known to harbor alligators and drown yourself. Do this and they will cease to harass you.


31 posted on 10/09/2008 9:35:58 AM PDT by RipSawyer (What's black and white and red all over? Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: IbJensen

I’ve been telling this to folks for a while.

Global warming - some of the large metropolitan coastal cities flood - Gondola manufacturers go into overdrive

Global cooling - tens of millions of acres of the most productive cropland in the world turn into permafrost - literally billions of people starve - no gondolas needed.

There ya go!


32 posted on 10/09/2008 9:39:32 AM PDT by djf (No milk on the shelves = blood in the streets. So what do we do? Send more money to the bankers!)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
Saw a great program on PBS the other night, about "Arctic Dinosaurs". There were scientists up on the North Slope who were digging out bones of really sizable dinos, and they pointed out that the North Slope was way closer to the North Pole in the time frame involved.

There were leaf fossils that strongly suggested that the summer climate of that area is about what Juneau has currently. Of course, the winters would have been bitter cold, but those summers had some pleasant temperatures. Obviously, none of that warming was human caused, but clearly reflected completely natural phenomena.

33 posted on 10/09/2008 10:06:08 AM PDT by hunter112 (Gov. Palin is ten times the woman Hillary could've hoped to be, if she had stayed a "Goldwater Girl")
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To: hunter112

And the continents have been moving.

65 million years ago there would’ve been no ice on earth. It was too warm.

Normally earth has no ice at the poles. It’s just cooler now.


34 posted on 10/09/2008 10:34:41 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
The thing we need to work on is a way to use a fairly limitless source of energy (solar or nuclear, using fusionable materials from the moon) to convert rising oceans into oxygen and hydrogen. The sediments could be used to fill abandoned mines, and perhaps tapped out oil fields.

Of course, when the planet starts cooling again, we'd have a fresh problem, but we'd come up with technology to deal with it by then, too.

35 posted on 10/09/2008 11:01:24 AM PDT by hunter112 (Gov. Palin is ten times the woman Hillary could've hoped to be, if she had stayed a "Goldwater Girl")
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To: hunter112

We aleady did.

By using fission breeder reactors we could create nearly limitless energy very cheaply.

We’ve already mined enough uranium to keep us going far into the future.

We could just keep reprocessing the material like they do in France.


36 posted on 10/09/2008 11:21:05 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: IbJensen

For later read.


37 posted on 10/09/2008 3:40:11 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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