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(Vanity) McCain just surrendered tonight. Time to pick our favorites for 2012.
PA Times Vanity | 10/10/08 | Pissant

Posted on 10/10/2008 4:08:06 PM PDT by pissant

McCain just killed all the momentum and enthusiasm of the last week with this simple sentence in response to an angry attendee at a rally tonight:

“I have to tell you, he is a decent person, a person that you do not have to be scared [of] as president of the United States."

“No, ma’am. He is a decent family man, citizen"


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: 2008; handwringers; judasmccain; loser; mccain; mcqueeg; mcrino; presidentobama; rino; senileisasseniledoes; surrendermonkeyjohn; throwingtheelection
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To: Ramius

“Man up, people.”

No sh!t. I so tire of this. FR seems to have some bizzar-o split personality these days. ;)


321 posted on 10/10/2008 5:36:20 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: mnehrling

His FIRST STATEMENT I quoted had nothing to do with the “arab” accusation. It was in response to someone who was afraid of Obama being POTUS. He gave THE WORST POSSIBLE RESPONSE.


322 posted on 10/10/2008 5:36:21 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Parmenio
Hmmm, that's not the way Ronald Reagan won, was it?

McCain is not Reagan, and this is not your father's democrat party. Carter was a disaster who got his just deserts-- but even so, the 'rat party then was not dominated and controlled by totalitarian anti-American psychopaths.

It is now. And geniality won't suffice.

323 posted on 10/10/2008 5:38:23 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: pissant

PA Times, like the MSM, is in the tank for Obama. PA Times was gloating about Palin’s teenage daughter being pregnant.


324 posted on 10/10/2008 5:38:29 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

No, it is the nominee that has a bizarro split personality. Unleashing ads pounding Obama as “too risky”, a liar, and a friend to ACORN and Ayers,.....then he says THIS crap today.


325 posted on 10/10/2008 5:39:52 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: TBall
I knew we were doomed when Mcinsane got the nomination. I just don't understand why that train wreck was ever nominated and why he ever ran in the first place. I'm convinced the game is fixed and full blown socialism is next on the plan.

He won the primaries because he was the beneficiary of 'triangulation.'

Thompson, Huckabee, Hunter, Tancredo, etc., shared the votes -- mostly the conservative. They never accumulated enough to win, but combined, they accumulated enough to keep each other from winning.

McCain was almost an external candidate. With the conservative votes being splintered among several candidates, McCain managed to accumulate most of the moderate and cross-over (where allowed). That was enough to give him the nomination. McCain didn't have to get majorities; all he had to do was accumulate more total votes by split or win to claim a higher number of the delegate counts from the various primaries.
326 posted on 10/10/2008 5:40:35 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: stockpirate

“Besides, Bush was down 11 points at this same point is 2004”


Can you source your data? I’d be interested in looking at it (what poll, internals, etc).


327 posted on 10/10/2008 5:41:05 PM PDT by gnawbone
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To: pissant

Hey, buck up. We already knew McCain is capable of saying dumb things.


328 posted on 10/10/2008 5:41:15 PM PDT by Interesting Times (For the truth about "swiftboating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: hinckley buzzard

I’m speechless and pissed off so I’ll just repeat your succinct words.

“McCain is not Reagan, and this is not your father’s democrat party. Carter was a disaster who got his just deserts— but even so, the ‘rat party then was not dominated and controlled by totalitarian anti-American psychopaths.”


329 posted on 10/10/2008 5:41:24 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("There is a PoliticalSurge coming")
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To: LadyNavyVet
Yes, McCain has Bush fatigue, a financial meltdown and an unpopular war.

"Bush fatigue" doesn't factor b/c even the most uneducated of voters knows that McCain and Bush are NOT the same person, no matter how much Obama is trying to indicate otherwise. The financial meltdown has clearly been shown to be the fault of the Democrats, and McCain has been--sort of--hitting that point (this is where WE do a lot of his heavy lifting). The "unpopular war" hasn't factored in at all so far, beyond Obama trying to double-deal a sitting President and a couple of brigades' worth of Soldiers.

There were ways to handle this without handing a grade A, primo soundbite to Obama and the MSM. All McCain had to do was ignore the Arab part and say that Obama’s POLICIES were scary, and then proceed to describe how.

I think you're getting two separate incidents confused as one. Some middle-aged bald guy made the "afraid" comment and some old lady made the "Arab" comment. Totally agree with you that McCain screwed the pooch on the "afraid" comment. However, with the "Arab" thing, what exactly was he supposed to do? He couldn't let that one stand. As someone said to me on another thread, he's running for the President of the entire United States, Arabs and Muslims, too. He gave the press a halfway embarrassing soundbite, but he handled it in pretty much the only way he could--cut her off, disown the comment by completely contradicting it. He couldn't parse words or even appear to agree with her comment. THAT would have been real bad.

330 posted on 10/10/2008 5:41:32 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (My freq'n head hertz...)
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To: mnehrling

“help the choir not be pissed off.”

The choir has every right to be pissed. McCain screwed the pooch, big time, 25 days before the election.

“Undecideds (ie wimps) may like is reaction..”

He just told the undecideds that Obama is a citizen (there goes the birth cert. issue) a decent family man(there go any other personal issues that may have gotten traction in the final days) and that nobody has to fear Obama as President (there goes the main reason undecideds have to vote for McCain.)

McCain wants to be the most powerful man on the planet, yet he doesn’t have a good answer to a question he should have seen coming from a mile away. He’s already got my vote banked, but I almost wish I could get it back. He’s not worthy of my vote.


331 posted on 10/10/2008 5:42:36 PM PDT by LadyNavyVet (Be a monthly donor.)
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To: TomGuy
Thompson, Huckabee, Hunter, Tancredo, etc., shared the votes -- mostly the conservative. They never accumulated enough to win, but combined, they accumulated enough to keep each other from winning.

Exactly, throw Romney in the mix (albeit he is a moderate) and you have a major clash of egos that wouldn't get behind each other. If, for example, they all got behind Thompson against Rudy and McCain RINOS, we would have an unstoppable force as our nominee now. Imagine for a moment......

Thompson/Palin

332 posted on 10/10/2008 5:44:08 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: itsPatAmerican
"I'll just pray for guidance to make it through these rough times."

I agree. Psalm 91 comes to mind.
333 posted on 10/10/2008 5:44:21 PM PDT by gpk9 ("Fairness" is the new Constitution and Bill of (no) Rights for America... I mean Amerika.)
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To: death2tyrants

Sure. I reported it. That’s gloating in your twisted little world.


334 posted on 10/10/2008 5:44:35 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: rabscuttle385
I can not carry water for McCain. I can bad mouth Obama because of his past record but I can not carry water for McCain. Sometimes I think his main goal is to completely destroy the conservative wing of the Republican Party,well, whats left of it.
335 posted on 10/10/2008 5:47:02 PM PDT by kempo
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To: pissant
Our leader has surrendered.

It is too late for anyone else to pick up the pieces this year. Even worse, this election likely marks the end of the Republican Party altogether.

336 posted on 10/10/2008 5:47:59 PM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: tirednvirginia
That person said Obama was an ARab and she was afraid of him.

Good thing that lady isn't running for president.

As for mccain, he could have said any number of things in response. M'am, he's an american who is ill informed and is dangerous, which is it is important that Americans vote for me. Or- he's no arab, but he is dangerous.

337 posted on 10/10/2008 5:48:19 PM PDT by new cruelty (I don't want my daughters punished with obama.)
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To: pissant
“No, ma’am. He is a decent family man, citizen"

Why pissant did you remove the remaining part of the McCain sentence?

338 posted on 10/10/2008 5:49:09 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: sport
Have you considered that the question could have been a setup to get a response from Mc Cain that the main stream media could use to hang him with.

Has mccain considered this? Ask him, he was the one running.

339 posted on 10/10/2008 5:49:56 PM PDT by new cruelty (I don't want my daughters punished with obama.)
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To: Future Snake Eater

A good answer to the Arab comment off the top of my head. “Ma’am, ethnicity is not a political issue in ths country, but policies are. So let me tell you about Obama’s economic policies...” If I can do that, why can’t McCain, who thinks he has the chops to be POTUS?

“The financial meltdown has clearly been shown to be the fault of the Democrats...”

Maybe to you and most Freepers, but the undecideds haven’t gotten the message. They’re blaming Bush and the Republicans for the demise of their 401Ks.

“McCain and Bush are NOT the same person...”

Name the last time a member of the same party as an eight-year incumbent President with an historically low approval number was elected.


340 posted on 10/10/2008 5:51:14 PM PDT by LadyNavyVet (Be a monthly donor.)
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