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IBD/TIPP Tracking Poll: Day One (Obama 43 v. McCain 41)
Investor's Business Daily ^ | 10/12/08 | Investor's Business Daily

Posted on 10/13/2008 6:01:00 PM PDT by BCrago66

In contrast to other polls, which show Obama leading McCain by 4 points (Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby) to 11 (Newsweek), the IBD/TIPP Tracking Poll debuts today with Obama up just 2 points with 13% (including 25% of independents) undecided. The poll was conducted Oct. 6-12 among 825 likely voters.

Q: If the 2008 election for U.S. president were held today and the following were candidates, for whom would you vote? Would you say Democrat Barack Obama or Republican John McCain?

(Excerpt) Read more at ibdeditorials.com ...


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To: NYC Republican

With a more realistic weighting, would you expect the lead to be something closer to 5% - 6%? Is so, this would basically match other polls out there right now.


41 posted on 10/13/2008 6:56:38 PM PDT by tatown (RINO's have destroyed the Republican party.)
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To: ncalburt
13% undecided means, quite literally, that the race isn't close to being over.

I give much more credence to polling organizations that publish their internals. I don't like Rasmussen or Zogby for that reason alone.

42 posted on 10/13/2008 6:57:02 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (MSM Lied, Journalism Died. RIP 2008)
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To: tatown

2006 was a banner year for democrats. The party ID was +3 for Dems. Do you prefer pulling numbers out of thin air? Or affirmative action for Barack Obama in the polls?


43 posted on 10/13/2008 6:58:56 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (MSM Lied, Journalism Died. RIP 2008)
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To: Thickman

Yup. ..and justice for all, born and unborn. KofC thing. :-}


44 posted on 10/13/2008 7:00:21 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (MSM Lied, Journalism Died. RIP 2008)
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To: jwalsh07

I don’t think too many expect D & R turnout to be even this year. It won’t be a 6% difference but it could easily be 2% - 3%.


45 posted on 10/13/2008 7:01:13 PM PDT by tatown (RINO's have destroyed the Republican party.)
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To: jwalsh07
To say how the Democrats and Republicans within a sample voted, is not to say what the percentages of Democrats v. Republicans are within that sample.

If I run a kennel, and I tell you that 60 percent of the dogs there like pork, while 70 percent of the cats there prefer chicken, you still don't know what the percentages are of dogs v. cats staying at the kennel. So I still don't have the internals of the IBD poll; thus I don't know if they're over or under-sampling Democrats.

46 posted on 10/13/2008 7:01:27 PM PDT by BCrago66
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To: BCrago66

+


47 posted on 10/13/2008 7:02:19 PM PDT by Lady GOP
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To: tatown

IBD is, evidently, using dems +3 based on the party numbers.


48 posted on 10/13/2008 7:02:41 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (MSM Lied, Journalism Died. RIP 2008)
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To: BCrago66
That is about as precise as I've seen any poll......
49 posted on 10/13/2008 7:03:32 PM PDT by Osage Orange (" I did not have radical relations with that man, William Ayers. " -Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: BCrago66

Independents are +2. Obama is + 2. McCain two points does better with republicans than Barack does with democrats and gets 2 points more democrats than Obama does from republicans. I think we can infer from that that IBD is using a Dem +2 or 3 weighting.


50 posted on 10/13/2008 7:08:03 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (MSM Lied, Journalism Died. RIP 2008)
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To: BCrago66
13% undecided? Are they lying? How can someone not know who they will vote for with 3 weeks to go.
51 posted on 10/13/2008 7:09:20 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Lipstick wearing Okie Moosehead!)
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To: jwalsh07

I’m going to re-visit this thread, and what you just said, tomorrow when I don’t have a headache and my noggin is working. I don’t doubt the the sample can be figured out inferentially as you say, but I can’t do no more inferrin’ tonight.

Night all.


52 posted on 10/13/2008 7:14:56 PM PDT by BCrago66
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To: BCrago66

OK, get well!


53 posted on 10/13/2008 7:16:00 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (MSM Lied, Journalism Died. RIP 2008)
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To: NYC Republican

Based on my memory, IBD/CSM/TIPP always uses a hard party weight. I always seem to remember that it was 39D, 35R, 26I, but I could be wrong there. No way that it’s less than D+2, however.

They do not push leaners until the end of the election, or when the leaners start pushing themselves.

It is a good poll with a good record and an excellent methodology, imho.


54 posted on 10/13/2008 7:20:16 PM PDT by Sam Spade
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To: jwalsh07

That banner year was related to the Mark Foley October surprise that the DNC media kept in the headlines for 4 weeks !


55 posted on 10/13/2008 7:21:55 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: TornadoAlley3

I have read that the early voting is way down this year compared to 2004.
The Iraqi war issue is gone and the 2000 stolen election mantra is gone too.


56 posted on 10/13/2008 7:24:03 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: tatown

Based on what ?


57 posted on 10/13/2008 7:25:00 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: DHarry
Geraghty’s four point find in 1996 is the widest in a generation and there is no way on God's green earth turnout will be as low for our side as it was in 1996.

Right. Only 49% of the electorate showed for the 1996 election, and the lowest turnout in at least 80 years.

58 posted on 10/13/2008 7:26:20 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: jwalsh07

They do it for a good reason .
There raw data does not flow with there results due to there Tracking Formula gaming !


59 posted on 10/13/2008 7:26:57 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: jwalsh07

So apparently Sara has the Christian vote and Zero has the atheist, Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu and Muslim vote.


60 posted on 10/13/2008 7:27:50 PM PDT by edge10
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