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Obama supporters fear race may bring candidate down
reuters.com ^ | October 15, 2008 | Matthew Bigg

Posted on 10/15/2008 9:29:41 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

For supporters of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama it is a nightmare scenario -- his apparent lead in the battle for the White House suddenly evaporates on Election Day. The cause? Race.

As Republican rival John McCain celebrates victory, it emerges that a small but decisive percentage of white voters who had declared to opinion pollsters they supported Obama actually chose differently in the privacy of the ballot booth.

With opinion surveys making Obama the favorite over McCain less than three weeks before the November 4 election, attention has turned to the question of how many white Americans might be lying to pollsters about their willingness to vote for a black president.

The phenomenon is known as the "Bradley effect," after Tom Bradley, an African American who narrowly lost the 1982 California governor's election despite leading in polls.

His defeat surprised observers who concluded many white voters had not been honest about their intentions. Ever since, pollsters have tried to factor in the Bradley effect in elections featuring black candidates.

Those concerns weighed heavily on John Estep as he canvassed for Obama last week in the mainly white town of St. Bernard, Ohio, where he was once mayor.

"They will say in a poll, or say on the porch, 'I'll vote for Obama.' But I question how many will stick with a person of color when they pull that (voting booth) curtain," said Estep.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ajntsa; antichrist; constantdrumbeat; obama; propagandawingofdnc; racism
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I’ll be voting against the half white heritage of Hussein. That should take care of the racist angle of voting.


21 posted on 10/15/2008 9:36:25 AM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98...Ain't no Newbie!)
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To: autumnraine

There will be problems either way. He wins, disaster. He loses, excuses, false charges, anger, violence.

If people are stupid enough to riot over a loser like Rodney King, what will they do when a real loser like Obama takes a beating.


22 posted on 10/15/2008 9:36:43 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (u)
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To: Chaguito
Setting things up...

My thoughts exactly. Question is, WHY? Are the poll questions such that race is excluded from the answer?

23 posted on 10/15/2008 9:37:16 AM PDT by Lou L
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To: Berlin_Freeper
his apparent lead in the battle for the White House suddenly evaporates on Election Day. The cause? Race.

This is their excuse for "blood in the streets".

The facts suggest two factors may affect the outcome that will conflict with the polls:

1) The pollsters use formulas to adjust their responses by party affiliation. Given the ACORN fraud, the number of registered dims is most likely inflated particularly in the "swing states", therefore giving a false high percentage to obambi.

2) Limbaugh's operation chaos also has people who always intended to vote Republican, list their party as dimocrat. This also inflates the numbers used by the pollsters in their "special sauce".

The bottom line is that the dims are preparing this election's scenario as to How the election was stolen...again.

24 posted on 10/15/2008 9:37:44 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Berlin_Freeper

a leftist co-worker recently said; “You just know that there are whites who won’t vote for Obama simply because he’s a black man!”

To which I replied; “You just know that there are blacks who won’t vote for McCain simply because he’s a white man”

..she then said that my comment was racist.

odd


25 posted on 10/15/2008 9:37:53 AM PDT by woollyone ("When the tide is low, even a shrimp has its own puddle." - Vance Havner)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
The blacks voting Obama seem to be doing it only out of race as well, so there is a race issue.

I was listening to a clip from Howard Stern where he interviewed blacks on the street.

He asked if they were voting Obama, of course they were.
He asked why? They stated it was because they liked his policies and not McCains.
So the interviewer started to ask if they agreed with policies (which were McCain's)
He even asked if they were OK with Obama’s choice of Palin as VP? They all went YES YES we agree with all that.

They are all voting a color, so they should be the last folks to call the kettle black IMO.

26 posted on 10/15/2008 9:38:40 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: rahbert

I live in Iowa where blacks are only about 2% of the population. Yet Obama defeated both the Breck Girl and the Clinton machine in the primary here. In fact were it not for Iowa, Obama would not have won the nomination.

Go figure!


27 posted on 10/15/2008 9:39:22 AM PDT by safetysign
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To: LS

I’ve yet to see a single pollster outside of Zogby even attempt to quantify the Wilder Effect, and he initially had it at 43%, and down to about 8-10%, every other pollster makes no mention of trying to nail it down.

As for the narrative..Blah Blah Blalalahah whateverrr...


28 posted on 10/15/2008 9:39:57 AM PDT by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

they will say anything to avoid saying that their values, policies and agendas are not in line with what American people want. that’s my $.02


29 posted on 10/15/2008 9:40:03 AM PDT by Wneighbor
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To: Westbrook

If a pollster called me I’d be tempted to say “I’m not voting for Obama because of his race. I’ve been told so many times that I’m a racist for not voting for him that I now believe it.”


30 posted on 10/15/2008 9:40:29 AM PDT by Terry Mross (O)
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To: autumnraine
Face it folks, if Obama loses it will ONLY be because he’s black.

Please explain.

31 posted on 10/15/2008 9:40:46 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Obama’s pick for Kenya was Raila Odinga, a communist with close ties to radical islamists. He campaigned with him for a week in Kenya, making speeches and giving the media interviews all while on a fact-finding mission paid for by taxpayers.

After Odinga lost the election, his supporters rioted and hundreds were killed and many Christian churches were burned to the ground. To quell the unrest, the newly elected government granted Odinga the position of Prime Minister.

O-bama—O-dinga. The similarities abound.


32 posted on 10/15/2008 9:40:52 AM PDT by downtownconservative (Intelligence sans reason is vainglorious pulp)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

And so it begins. They’ll call it the Bradley effect but they know very well these polls are not accurate. The radicals aren’t going to take this very well at all.


33 posted on 10/15/2008 9:40:58 AM PDT by bereanway (Sarah get your gun)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“The cause? Race.”

Hey there.... it wasn’t the white boys & girls that brought the ‘race card’ into this race....it has been the blacks and the dems that have begged for this to be about race.... be sure to also thank Rev Wright and his hateful cult.


34 posted on 10/15/2008 9:41:07 AM PDT by Gator113 ("Noli nothis permittere te terere.")
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To: Berlin_Freeper
I posted this months ago. I think it is relevant here:

There are two facts about Barak Obama which stand out above all others: first, he is so inexperienced that he is unqualified to be the president of the United States of American. Second, he is regarded to be African-American.

The truth, which no one seems to be willing to tell, is that such an inexperienced individual would never be the nominee of America's largest political party if it were not for the fact that he is accepted to be black. He would not be nominated if he were not African-American.

One of the ways he got nominated, apart from the mainstream media like Chris Matthews anointing him to assuage their white guilt, was because he polled better than 90% of African-Americans in the primaries. Another truth that is rarely mentioned is that, quite simply, African-Americans voted their race. They voted for Obama because he is black. That is the essence of racism.

The problem with this development for white voters is that people like Chris Matthews ask us to unilaterally disarm in the face of this racism. We are told at every turn that criticism of Obama's inexperience is thinly disguised racism. The mainstream media who tell us that, as well as black voters who are motivated by racism, are not just playing some game, they are trying to attain political power over all voters including white voters.

That is, after all, what politics is all about: who gets to enforce the decisions at the point of a gun about who gets what and who pays for it. In extreme instances, the chief executive commits our sons, and now daughters, to die on some battlefield. The stakes are almost infinite. They involve our blood and treasure.

If the game of politics is to be rigged by racism it is folly for white people to play a different game. If blacks can vote for Obama because he is black, whites can vote against him because he is black. If blacks can vote their race, whites can vote their race too, and do so free of taint of racism.

The mainstream media, and Chris Matthews is the prominent example, perhaps unconsciously, have been struggling to divert white voters' attention away from these realities and away from voting their own self-interest, or even the interests of the nation as a whole.

The best that can be said of Obama is that he is inexperienced and unqualified for office. The worst that can be said of this campaign is that it is racist at its core.


35 posted on 10/15/2008 9:41:07 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Chaguito

They have been setting this up for a while. The media is totally lying to the American people. The polls are close and they know by election day when people have a choice an all this other stuff comes out on Obama, they will not pick him. If they lose, they want to lose close so they can say “racism and disenfranchisement.”

I think the American people will pick McCain in a landslide when all is said and done and we won’t even have to talk about the race issue. We will be talking about the rejection of fascism.


36 posted on 10/15/2008 9:41:50 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Coming soon to a precinct near you!

37 posted on 10/15/2008 9:42:11 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Obama will give us enough hope to hang ourselves.)
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To: padre35
Right. That's why I tried to publish as many of these races as I could, and I think in most of these, the margin is between 4 and 10 points.

However, I think this will be VASTLY larger in certain pockets---SE OH, W VA, PA, MO, VA. In other words, important areas that count in the electoral college.

38 posted on 10/15/2008 9:42:39 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: pfflier

That was sarcasm. I was saying if he loses, he and his wife and every MSM outlet, every “Civil rights leader” will claim it is because of racism. No other reason.

Sorry, I should have done the sarcasm tag thing.


39 posted on 10/15/2008 9:42:40 AM PDT by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Obama doesn’t qualify as black under the minority laws of the US — he is only 6.25% black, 43.75% Luo, and 50% white.

He is a fraud from the get go!


40 posted on 10/15/2008 9:42:46 AM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER -- VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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