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George Weigel, Distinguished Senior Fellow of the Ethics and Public Policy Center, is a Catholic theologian and one of America's leading public intellectuals.

Weigel has been awarded eleven honorary doctorates, the papal cross Pro Ecclesia et Pontifice, and the Gloria Artis Gold Medal by the Republic of Poland. He serves on the boards of directors of several organizations dedicated to human rights and the cause of religious freedom and is a member of the editorial board of First Things. Ethics and Public Policy Center

1 posted on 10/16/2008 1:09:17 PM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 10/16/2008 1:09:59 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: NYer

Just more WHITE CATHOLIC GUILT.


4 posted on 10/16/2008 1:12:02 PM PDT by Fred (The Democrat Party is the Nadir of Nihilism)
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It’s a mortal sin for any Catholic to vote for the extreme pro-abortionist, Barack Obama.

I’ll repeat that every day from now until Election Day, so maybe some Catholics will “get it.”


5 posted on 10/16/2008 1:13:31 PM PDT by Palladin (Obama on Ayers: "He's just a guy in my neighborhood." LIAR!!!)
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To: NYer
I think the Catholics for Infanticide bumper stickers are not quite flying off the shelves over at Cafe Press. But maybe that will change...
6 posted on 10/16/2008 1:14:30 PM PDT by gridlock (Anybody who advocates robbing Peter to pay Paul can count on the enthusiastic support of Paul.)
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Cafardi argues that the Bush administration has committed “intrinsically evil” acts in its policy of abusive interrogations of suspected terrorists, its detainee treatment at Guantanamo Bay, and its failures after Hurricane Katrina.

Under America's current abortion law, far more babies have been murdered than terrorists have been interrogated. I can understand a lot of things, but someone who cares more about the treatment of terror suspects than the treatment of babies who are unfortunate enough to have mothers who want them killed is beyond my understanding. I don't even see him advocating for painless abortion. We would not be allowed to kill dogs or cats by dismemberment or saline poisoning.

8 posted on 10/16/2008 1:15:17 PM PDT by brytlea (Obama--Keep the change!)
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To: NYer

“screw the babies, I want a check from the govt!”


10 posted on 10/16/2008 1:17:29 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Good job, Canada!)
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“comes reasonably close” to embodying “an alternative way to be pro-life.”

I’d like for the learned professor to explain to me how consistantly voting in favor of dealth, Obama is reasonable close to the Catholic pro-life view? Is killing an unborn child the alternative to life? Well, I guess that does make sense ...


11 posted on 10/16/2008 1:17:55 PM PDT by Jackson57
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To: NYer

Is it possible to be seriously pro-life and vote for any Democrat?

Is it possible to be seriously Catholic and vote for any Democrat?


16 posted on 10/16/2008 1:24:18 PM PDT by prolifefirst
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What do Catholics hope to gain from voting for Hussein?

They should all take a short trip to Muslim countries and observe how Christians are persecuted. Catholics who vote for Hussein are particularly stupid and should not come back but stay in those countries.


20 posted on 10/16/2008 1:30:32 PM PDT by 353FMG (What marxism and fascism could not destroy, liberalism did.)
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The Catholic Church is going to be a big factor for McCain.Clinton got a majority of Catholics both times,Obama will not.At 9am mass today,our priest came out against abortion and euthanasia.He also downgraded candidates that try to use slick language to obscure their positions on life in debates.


23 posted on 10/16/2008 1:34:01 PM PDT by ardara
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In these last few weeks till the election, it's time for the life question to become a battle cry!

All other important questions revolve around "issues," but the difference between liberty and tyranny revolve around the question of whether life and liberty are gifts from a Creator or whether they are grants, or permissions, from other human beings.

Creator-endowed right to life and liberty is the foundation upon which this nation was founded.

If a nation devalues that concept, basing an individual's right to life and liberty on judicial fiat and a woman or girl's decision, then where is the security for liberty for any?

The elephant in the room in this election is the Radical Left's absolute determination that it, alone, will decide who sits on the Supreme Court of the United States! They talk about "change," they talk about war, they talk about everything else, but the "elephant" is the question of the unfettered right of a woman to destroy her unborn child. They can call it "privacy rights," "reproductive rights, or the "right of a woman to choose," but one can see from their hatred of Palin that the so-called "right to choose," is only valid if the woman's choice is to permit taking the life of the unborn. To the Left, this is a declared war on all opposition.

Yes, it is time for John McCain to take off the gloves on exposing the real culprits in the government who forced banks to make risky loans to unqualified people, but for the sake of liberty for generations yet unborn, it is far more important that he clarify the importance of life, and the threat to liberty if Obama carries out the Left's agenda. Soft pedaling this issue, as if it is just a personal preference, overlooks a far more significant principle.

"The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time: the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them."- Thomas Jefferson

"The world is different now. . . . And yet the same revolutionary beliefs for which our forefathers fought are still at issue around the globe--the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God."- JFK, Inaugural 1961

24 posted on 10/16/2008 1:36:42 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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Weigel is right and Cafardi is wrong (also Kmiec.) No one of any Christian domination, and certainly not a believing Catholic, can possibly argue that the abortion struggle is lost “permanently.” Such permanence will wash away right from under their feet.
26 posted on 10/16/2008 1:39:29 PM PDT by Malesherbes (Sauve qui peut.)
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The problem with religion is that it doesn’t change the heart of man within. An individual who has undergone a spiritual transformation (new birth), would never vote for someone like Obama who sanctions the murder of both the born and unborn, not to mention his support for the homosexual agenda. Religion destroys and corrupts, being truly born again changes the heart from within and causes decisions to be made on biblical absolutes, rather than what a man thinks, feels, or wants. Jesus Christ would never vote for a left wing nutcase such as Barak Hussein Obama. No one who has followed the biblical mandate to “put on the mind of Christ,” would vote for him either.


28 posted on 10/16/2008 1:41:32 PM PDT by evangmlw
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Obama Catholics cannot rationalize their support for a politician who favors infanticide. There is no way to sugar coat it.


42 posted on 10/16/2008 2:13:26 PM PDT by bdeaner
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Keep talking George. Maybe their ears will be opened to the truth.


43 posted on 10/16/2008 2:16:56 PM PDT by secret garden (Dubiety reigns here)
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Snob-ama is the anti-Christ. Anyone who votes for it will likely be damned. It is an open question whether or not one will be able to repent of the crime.


48 posted on 10/16/2008 2:23:00 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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You cannot be both Christian and pro-choice on abortion. The two are diametrically opposed—polar opposites.

Also you cannot be a sincere pro-lifer and vote for Obama. If you think you are both you are living a lie.


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55 posted on 10/16/2008 2:34:13 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at KnightsForLife.org)
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Any time you debate with people who claim to be Catholic Obama supporters, point them to this before engaging them:

www.durarealidad.com

If they can still support Obama after watching it, they may have no soul.
63 posted on 10/16/2008 7:55:03 PM PDT by Antoninus (If you're bashing McCain/Palin at this point, you're helping Obama.)
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what a contradiction in terms


64 posted on 10/16/2008 7:55:49 PM PDT by Silly (www.PalinLove.com)
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Pro-life Catholics who support Obama face criticism

If they don't change their ways they face more than criticism. Try telling God those 50 million kids mattered less than some gubmint gimme program.

67 posted on 10/17/2008 9:06:47 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.******)
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