Posted on 10/16/2008 11:08:02 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
NEW YORK John McCain hung his final presidential debate performance on an Ohio plumber who campaign aides never vetted.
A day after making Joseph Wurzelbacher famous, referencing him in the debate almost two dozen times as someone who would pay higher taxes under Barack Obama, McCain learned the fine print Thursday on the plumbers not-so-tidy personal story: He owes back taxes. He is not a licensed plumber. And it turns out that Wurzelbacher makes less than $250,000 a year, which means he would receive a tax cut if Obama were elected president.
McCain likes to say that he isnt George W. Bush and in this case of bungled public relations, it is clear he is not. The famously-disciplined Bush campaign operation would likely have found the perfect anonymous citizen to illustrate a policy proposal, rather than spontaneously wrap itself around an unknown entity with so many asterisks.
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I think McCain found a goldmine in Joe. If things keep going the way they have today, it will be a turning point in the campaign.
These elitist “journalists” are complete idiots.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
And it turns out that Wurzelbacher makes less than $250,000 a year, which means he would receive a tax cut if Obama were elected president.
Joe said he wanted to work to buy the business....and was referring to the taxes with his acquired business.
He doesn't need to be licensed in the work he is doing for someone else.
He owes $1,200 in taxes, that's really is nothing.
Remember that guy who beat up the terrorists in Scotland? Well, Joe is like that guy, the MSM can't touch him. If they try, they will only soil themselves.
These two girls (carrie and amie) are deliberately missing the whole point.
I'm more pessimistic about this election than most here, but man, is this a stretch.
He owes back taxes? Oh, wow, string him up!
The depth of the media's fear about this guy's MESSAGE is revealed in their desire to crush HIM.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Another “gotcha!” moment from the tabloid press. I guess “rhetorical” has too many syllables for these spoon-clanging jerks who continue to MISS THE POINT.
I think McCain has stumbled on gold again. This is another Sarah moment in the campaign.
Sarah and Joe need to combine forces on the trail. They'd be bigger than the Beatles.
They never learn, what total dorks.
Omygawd!
The media is carrying water for Obama by LYING!
Who would have ever thought!
McCain “screwed up,” by throwing his spear right through the MSM Obama defense.
What bothers me is the man never said he made 250,000. He presented Obama with a hypothetical question and Obama answered it. The MSM needs to get bent. Barrack Hussein (Steve) Obama is a socialist. Period.
I think it is a deliberate attempt to rework his statement....Obama and Biden have taken the same meaning as the authors of this piece...
Joe was an answer to prayer. How else can you explain the odds of Obama just happening to walk down Joe’s street while he was out in the front yard, an intelligent, articulate and photogenic all-American guy who’s not afraid to confront the Democratic front-runner? The day before the final debate and the conversation, in which Obama reveals to the world his true nature, on film? He manages to crystallize Obama’s socialism and calls it for what it is. Then he goes on to do the same on national TV over and over again. I will always believe this was a God thing, and Satan’s minions recognize it as such, thus their fury.
>>>>>He owes back taxes. He is not a licensed plumber. And it turns out that Wurzelbacher makes less than $250,000 a year, which means he would receive a tax cut if Obama were elected president.
Owing back taxes isn't a crime and Joe doesn't need a license to be a residential plumber in Ohio.
And Bob Williams, a senior research associate at the independent, nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, said that Joe's tax cut would probaly be greater under McCains tax plan than Obamas.
It is THE losing issue for them for 2008 and they know it. This is abject desperation.
First a reporter makes up a story about the rabid Republicans at the Palin rallies that takes on a life of its own, and now we have a Private Citizen publicly eviscerated by the trusted Mainstream Media and the Democrat Presidential Candidate Barack Obama.
My God, have the people in this country lost all common sense and decency? Spoiled children running the household.
Uhm...Earth to liberals...The man said right up front that he was looking to buy a buisness that would make more than 250K, not that he already was...
Get your facts straight before getting snarky...
Joe the Plumber did not say to Obama that he made $250,000.
Joe the Plumber said that he HOPED , some day, to own a plumbing business that made him $250,000.
Obama's reply was that such a business owner's earnings would be taken to "spread the wealth".
It does not matter what Joe the Plumber's "personal story" is. He could be a hypothetical person and his hypothetical question would still be valid.
It speaks volumes that the liberal media desperately attacks Joe the Plumber in order to divert attention from Obama's answer to Joe the Plumber's question.
Did you see the guy to the camera mans left he had his arms folded and he mouthed some words but I think he called Obama an A Hole.
That's exactly what Joe was talking about. These reporters really, really lack comprehension skills. Just when you think they can't look more stupid...Dumb asses.
Something tells me Brown and Parnes don’t quite get it, Joe is a stand-in for millions of people like him. Trying to fling mud at someone who’s not running for anything only makes you look desperate and petty - although seeing Obamanites in that frame of mind is refreshing.
but I thought obama is a christian? after all, he attended the same hate-filled racist church for 20 years
Purely Politico pablum.
Idiot journalists can’t see the forest for the trees. They are stuck on the minutiae of Joe rather than seeing the big picture. They are looking for ANYTHING to undermine the man and are grasping at the weakest of straws. Joe is the perfect metaphor for EVERYMAN who is under the thumb of big government and trying to throw off that shackle — and the ball and chain that O wants to tie us all down with.

These stupid a holes don’t get it. This guy wanted to buy his bosses business and he a=was wondering if Obama would raise his taxes after he bought the business! He was setting Obama up but it worked!
Exactly!
The media is doing this to draw attention TO Joe and AWAY from what Obama said about spreading the wealth around; this is typical rat behavior.... we all need to keep the eye on the real ball here and it is Obama’s comment.
John McCain had Sarah Palin sneak into Karl Rove’s office and tap into his computerized mind reading machine to see what street Obama was going to visit. McCain would have done it himself, but we all know he doesn't know how to use a computer.
Anyway,once Sarah got the info, she made a note and hid it inside Trig’s diaper so her Secret Service Detail wouldn't catch on. When John McCain got the note out of Trig’s diaper, he ordered his trusted Butler Alfred to find a mid forties white guy living on that very same street. Alfred went to Joe's house, and using his skills as an amateur Hypnotist, put Joe in a trance and told him what questions to ask Obama. The rest as they say, is history.
Nuff said.
Ben Smith and Jonathan Martin, the official Obama Suckup Team...
Watch his performance at the Al Smith memorial event in New York. He has a hard time with words.
Let the backlash begin. Joe did nothing wrong and is in fact not running for public office, yet they “vetted” this guy more than they ever did Obama. Americans are going to be outraged at how this guy is treated.
So he really is an average american who’s made a few mistakes.
Go Joe!
bravo!
What will we hear from the media about charlie?
Joe the Plumber has been vetted more thoroughly by the MSM then Obama has.
The MSM ignored “Can Lady” the one who claimed she had to pick up aluminum cans to make ends meet in the 2000 election despite that fact she was a Gore plant.
Citizens of this country must now be VETTED in order to question or voice an opinion according to the new rules of the so called media! Let’s tell them we will not be silenced. They are disgraceful and I am saddened at how they are making “The land of the free” look like a joke in the eyes of the world. They have gone too far with their Obamania.
spoiled indeed...by way to much of our tax money and by the blood of totally selfish abortion freedom. If we need to have a civil war to stop the murder of unborn children, then let’s get it over with.
If this was Jose the Plumber I don't think the Obamaggots in the Obamedia would have a problem with any of this.
RE: Well That Didn’t Take Long [Mark Hemingway]
Getting a lot of emails along these lines:
I don’t know why I’m e-mailing you, except that I just need to vent to someone on The Corner. Pass this around to the others if you like I bet I’m not the only one.
I really don’t like McCain. I’ll probably vote for him just as a vote for divided government. I’m far too libertarian in my leanings to be comfortable with McCain (or Obama, for that matter).
That said, the way the pro-Obama media and bloggers, and Obama himself, have responded to Joe has got me nearly shaking with rage. They are attempting to destroy a man a private citizen who had the audacity to ask The One a question. Mind you, Joe was on his front lawn playing football with his son when Obama strolled up to give him his hopenchange spiel. Obama approached Joe, not the other way around. And Joe asked Obama an honest question. And Obama gave him an honest and very, very revealing answer. Again, mind you, the embarassment was on Obama’s end, not Joe’s. It wasn’t a gotcha question.
And yet, for that Joe is being pilloried, every aspect of his private and professional life being sorted through and exposed. To prove ... what? What does that have to do with Obama’s answer? What does Joe’s situation have to do with Obama’s philosophical answer that he wants to “spread the wealth”? Obama’s answer goes down the memory hole while the nation concentrates its fire on obliterating Joe the Plumber.
It’s sickening, it’s maddening and it’s downright chilling.
Sorry for the length. But I am just SEETHING.
And:
I was at LSAT class tonight and the instructor had the audacity to state that Joe the Plumber is a “lunatic” fit to be paralized because he allegedly questioned the merits of social security. The instructor then went on to construct a sample question in which Joe the Plumber is confined to a wheel chair because he has been run down by McCain’s ‘straight talk express’ bus.
Mind you, this professional “educator” graduated from Georgetown, Harvard Law, and Harvard Business. And I’m supposed to be worried about Sarah Palin’s lack of an “elite” education?
And:
I could care less about Joe’s background, whether he’s legit, or whether he is a McCain operative. What I do care about is that I could be attacked like a public figure simply for asking a question, like Joe. I am chilled. No longer undecided either.
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“The media is doing this to draw attention TO Joe and AWAY from what Obama said about spreading the wealth around; this is typical rat behavior.... we all need to keep the eye on the real ball here and it is Obamas comment.”
If that’s it, then ‘ol Joe just needs to hit back. Say, something like “Most of the media is investigating me more than they are Sen. Obama.” Turn it right back on them...
I am an average income American too, and I wish to heck McCain would pick up on this stupid mantra that tax breaks are “giving money to the “rich” people” and jam it right back into Obama’s socialist teeth. The money in question is the rightful possession of those who have legally earned it, rich or not. A tax break means less is being forcibly taken away, not that something is being given to someone who does not deserve it. I also wish Palin, if not McCain, would start using the word “Socialist” in connection with the “spread the wealth” comment.
Now, if Barack wants to heavily tax those who supported the imposition of risky mortgages onto the banks, that’s fine by me...
We all know what Joe said, the msm is spinning away trying to make McCain look bad again. Totally transparent.
McCain has the perfect issue to drive home right now and I wonder if he even knows it. The Democrats want to drop the tax breaks for 401k’s and make it mandatoryeveryone donates 5% into a retirement plan administed by Social Security....this in addition to the 6.2% of income the employee already pays into SS... I don’t see anything here other than a flim-flam to add an additional amount into SS... where is the self-investment benefit?
It’s a deliberate spin. Joe was on Neil Cavuto today, he is no idiot, spoke very well and clear.
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