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GOP slashes ad spending in Colorado (Pulling Out of Colorado?)
KSBY-TV ^ | 10-23-2008

Posted on 10/23/2008 9:09:35 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache

Edited on 10/23/2008 9:29:53 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: impeachedrapist

My understanding is that the RNC is reallocating funds that were supposed to go to one of the Congressional candidates in Colorado. This happens in every election and both sides are constantly doing this, but the media only reports upon RNC activities because it supports their false “McCain is giving up on Colorado” narrative.

FYI: it’s now up on McCain’s website calendar: Sarah Palin is campaigning in Virginia on Monday.


101 posted on 10/23/2008 12:42:36 PM PDT by kesg
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To: My Favorite Headache

It’s okay. McCain will ‘lead’ in the Senate, brokering the same deals he’d probably be brokering as president, starting with amnesty and then on to global warming.


102 posted on 10/23/2008 12:50:23 PM PDT by Swordfished
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To: impeachedrapist

I guess I’m only supposed to believe the polls that have McCain up. Got it.


103 posted on 10/23/2008 12:55:11 PM PDT by Crystal Cove
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To: Crystal Cove

Way to dodge the uncomfortable data staring you in the face.


104 posted on 10/23/2008 1:07:03 PM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: Non-Sequitur

You didn’t answer my question. Why drop spending across the board in these red states that are supposedly so vulnerable, while increasing spending in blue states that supposedly aren’t vulnerable? Can’t see the forest for the trees, I guess.


105 posted on 10/23/2008 1:09:57 PM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: Rocky Mountain High
>>>>>El Paso County, where I live is the bastion of conservatism in the state, which is why the candidtaes have spent more time here than in Denver. They're all banking on Colorado Springs to swing the state, which means that even Colorado Springs is in play.

That is contradictory. Colorado Springs isn't in play! CSprings is part of El Paso County and usually goes 65%-70% for Republicans. I expect that percentage range to hold in 2008.

Bob Loevy is a local college Professor of Political Science and TV analyst here in the Springs. He stated the other day that statewide, polls always underestimate Republicans by 4% every election. IOW, add 4% to the current numbers for McCain and Bob Shaffer if you want to get closer to the actual final results.

106 posted on 10/23/2008 1:21:16 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: impeachedrapist
Why drop spending across the board in these red states that are supposedly so vulnerable...

It's hard to make a trend out of two weeks. Has spending gone up and down by a few percentage points each week for a while? If so, then is this a decrease or just a normal fluctuation. I assume that there is a finite amount of media buys available in a given week. It could be that Obama, and McCain, bought all they could for the week and that happened to be less than what was available the week before. Also, look at the National and Cable buys. How much of the money taken out of local media markets is now directed back at those very same media markets via Cable or the networks - spending in which rose almost 300 percent?

...while increasing spending in blue states that supposedly aren’t vulnerable?

He increased in three, Iowa, Maine and New Hampshire. Could be he sees the need to shore up support. There may have been some drop in internal polls. New Hampshire has to be considered a in play because it's been a traditionally Republican state, so Obama's spending more there and in Maine, since part of New Hampsire falls in Maine media coverage. As for Iowa, I'll point out that Missouri is in play, and parts of north and northeastern Missouri are covered by Iowa media markets. The total buy in Iowa went up a whopping $22,000, that could explain it. So now it's your turn. If North Carolina and Nevada are so safe for McCain, then why did his media buys in those two red states go up several times more than Obama's increas in blue states?

107 posted on 10/23/2008 1:37:25 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Reagan Man

I asked about ads in NC specifically yesterday and was told the money discrepancy was an issue but I will not labor the point with you as I have given to the GOP but the fund is spread through all candidates not just McCain. I think Obama with Soros and his many “foreign” friends have done well for Obama...spending is said to be 4 to 1.


108 posted on 10/23/2008 3:11:35 PM PDT by nclaurel (No white flags from America in Iraq--hear that Biden!)
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To: nclaurel

What are you talking about?

My reply was in response to you comparing Obama raising $605 million to McCain’s $84 million. You offered an apples to oranges comparison, not the facts. As I clearly pointed out.


109 posted on 10/23/2008 3:27:33 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man

How do you see $605 million for Obama alone to $84 million for McCain as apples to oranges? What either the DNC or RNC raise goes to more than just presidential candidates. Not clear to me why you are arguing, but whatever.


110 posted on 10/23/2008 3:38:34 PM PDT by nclaurel (No white flags from America in Iraq--hear that Biden!)
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To: Non-Sequitur
If North Carolina and Nevada are so safe for McCain, then why did his media buys in those two red states go up several times more than Obama's increas in blue states?

To imply that I or anyone else has said NV (won by three points the last two Presidential elections) is "safe" is absolutely laughable. Next?

And you've answered your own question on NC. Apparently, according to you and the media, Obama is leading in a host of red states like VA, NC, CO, FL, and OH. So why wouldn't McCain advertise there?

111 posted on 10/23/2008 3:59:05 PM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: nclaurel

I explained it all to you in post #31. One more time.

The $605 million is what Obama has raised. IIRC, McCain has raised something like $200 million. However, Obama rejected public financing. McCain took public financing that amounted to $84 million. That means basically, McCain has had $284 million to spend compared to Obama’s $605 million and whatever he can raise between now and election day. That compares apples to apples. Problem is, McCain can’t raise anymore private funds. He’s restricted by law. The RNC and DNC raise money to spend on ALL candidates, including McCain. Handing some funding out to their national Senate and House committees.

Hope that clears up your confusion.


112 posted on 10/23/2008 3:59:19 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: impeachedrapist
And you've answered your own question on NC. Apparently, according to you and the media, Obama is leading in a host of red states like VA, NC, CO, FL, and OH. So why wouldn't McCain advertise there?

527s will be filling the gap.

113 posted on 10/23/2008 4:59:21 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: EDINVA

“Don’t leave out VA ... same damned thing happening here. It’ not due to Virginians that there’s a contest in the Old Dominion, but immigrants from the Northeast who’ve crowded into Northern VA and changed the demographic completely. They came because they liked our low taxes. Argh.”

I was talking to a liberal couple here in Pittsburgh a couple of months ago. They are thinking of moving to Texas since the cost of living is lower (Austin to be specific). I suggested that they stay here to clean up the mess they’ve made. I know Austin is “blue”, but Pittsburgh is so blue it’s Soviet red.


114 posted on 10/23/2008 7:26:08 PM PDT by edh (I need a better tagline)
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To: edh

I like to remind liberals that they like these programs they’ve put into effect, the least they can do is stay where they are and pay for them!


115 posted on 10/23/2008 8:07:51 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Reagan Man

RM, the Springs IS in play. Why do you think the candidates have spent so much time here if it isn’t? Don’t delude yourself.


116 posted on 10/31/2008 9:15:43 AM PDT by Rocky Mountain High
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To: Rocky Mountain High
Get real. The Springs IS NOT in play!

The Obama campaign is attempting to pick up as many votes as possible and drive down McCain's margin of victory in El Paso County in hopes of winning the state.

Bush received 67% of the vote in El Paso County in 2004 and 69% in 2000. GOP Cong Doug Lamborn CO-5TH, got 60% in 2006, after a tough primary battle. Lamborn’s predecessor, 10 term GOP Cong Joel Hefley usually garnered 70% of the vote.

If Obama drives down McCain's winning percentage under 65%, he's got a chance of taking Colorado. That is the Obama campaign strategy. Something a month ago I didn't think possible.

The only times El Paso County voted for a Democrat was for FDR in 1932 and 1936, and LBJ`s rout of Goldwater in 1964.

117 posted on 10/31/2008 10:32:13 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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