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SHOCK: MCCAIN CAMPAIGN VOLUNTEER ATTACKED AND MUTILATED IN PITTSBURGH
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Posted on 10/23/2008 12:48:03 PM PDT by flyfree

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To: flyfree
MSM Reaction:

B ...Babe

B......B___ch

B......Bach

B.......Banana

They will ignore this with a will.

901 posted on 10/23/2008 6:19:23 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: editor-surveyor

Ping


902 posted on 10/23/2008 6:24:35 PM PDT by thecabal (I AM JOE)
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To: flyfree

God be with us, this is getting crazy scarry folks. Pray.


903 posted on 10/23/2008 6:31:40 PM PDT by Biggirl (Throw The Bums OUT!=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: Shelayne

904 posted on 10/23/2008 6:35:21 PM PDT by publana (John McCain/PALIN 08)
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To: publana

Notice she wears glasses. Thus the reason her eye isn’t read and the lid wasn’t swollen as the illustrious plastic surgeon is trying to say is the reason it is a hoax.


905 posted on 10/23/2008 6:36:32 PM PDT by publana (John McCain/PALIN 08)
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To: publana

Sorry about the grammar. I’m angry that we’re picking this girl apart before we know the facts. It’s one thing to have doubts, but to fry this young girl so publicly here is DUish. The dems were frying her on their blogs which I expected. I did not expect to see it here or on MichelleMalkin.com.


906 posted on 10/23/2008 6:40:31 PM PDT by publana (John McCain/PALIN 08)
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To: philomath

There’s lots of intimidation going on in Florida and it’s nowhere near 11-4 yet. I think they are outside agitators. Floridians for the most part get along. I’m thinking Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals are in play in swing states, there must be a chapter about outside agitators with money for a motel and food.


907 posted on 10/23/2008 6:43:49 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Barack Obama: Carving a New America for McCain Voters)
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To: GOPJ

I heard O’Reilly saying something about ‘not trusting this story’ a bit ago. They were showing a picture of the girl with a black eye and bruises all over her with a B left in her cheek and O’Reilly thinks ‘something’s up’? What have I missed? The last time I signed on to FR the thread was only in the 300 range.

I have alot of catching up to do in the thread. Any updates will be appreciated.


908 posted on 10/23/2008 6:46:57 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: publana
I notice there's been more than a few "2008-10-xx" sign up dates questioning this gals story. She hit the hospital this morning... To me, it sounds legit. I've had more than a few black eyes. Not all of them swell your eye shut.

I'm willing to come down on her side on this one. Someone using just a knife tip to try and trace out a letter wouldn't be using enough cutting surface to make her bleed. Somehow, I doubt a low-life mugger would be all that hot at keeping his weapons scalpel sharp...

909 posted on 10/23/2008 6:49:01 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: lovesdogs

Its not too late for that CCW. A ladyfriend of mine called me up over the weekend wanting me to take her gun shopping. Then my Brother asked me to call a gun dealer friend and find out what a AR 15 costs these days.
People are scared, and they are arming themselves.


910 posted on 10/23/2008 6:49:16 PM PDT by Yorlik803 (Running isnt a plan:Running is what you do when a plan fails.)
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To: flyfree

The Obamassiah is doing for America what he’s done for Kenya.


911 posted on 10/23/2008 6:50:03 PM PDT by Nevermore (...just a typical cracker, clinging to my Constitutional rights...)
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To: penelopesire

Many think she faked the attack and ripping her to shreds before all the facts are known.


912 posted on 10/23/2008 6:50:51 PM PDT by publana (John McCain/PALIN 08)
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To: All
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913 posted on 10/23/2008 6:52:06 PM PDT by FTL
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; Ciexyz; ...

ping


914 posted on 10/23/2008 6:54:20 PM PDT by Tribune7 (Obama wants to put the same crowd that ran Fannie Mae in charge of health care)
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To: flyfree

More campaigning from the “Thugs for Obama” faction. Expect more of this when he becomes president.


915 posted on 10/23/2008 6:54:55 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: philomath

I saw video at Drudge. Second part (there is a pause before second video) victim said the attacker said he was going to teach her a lesson after he saw the McCain sticker.


916 posted on 10/23/2008 6:57:31 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Barack Obama: Carving a New America for McCain Voters)
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To: publana
"I’m angry that we’re picking this girl apart before we know the facts."

You're right about this. Let's just see what the bank film shows.

917 posted on 10/23/2008 7:02:50 PM PDT by LadyPilgrim ((Lifted up was He to die; It is finished was His cry; Hallelujah what a Savior!!!!!! ))
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To: Brad's Gramma

This poor woman is in for an all-out assault that will actually make the physical attack she endured seem light by comparison.

The vicious media, in the tank for the chosen One, will savage her to no end. I am praying for her tonight.


918 posted on 10/23/2008 7:04:17 PM PDT by Deo volente
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To: penelopesire
Pen, many don't believe her even on FR. Even Michelle Malkin has doubts based on her twitter messages. I saw her blog page and she seems like a very enthusiastic, young college Repub who is very active in campaigning.
919 posted on 10/23/2008 7:05:13 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Deo volente

Yes! She needs our prayers. And pray the bank will come forth quickly with the ATM video.


920 posted on 10/23/2008 7:06:37 PM PDT by LadyPilgrim ((Lifted up was He to die; It is finished was His cry; Hallelujah what a Savior!!!!!! ))
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To: All

McCain has Joe The Plumber representing his campaign idealism.

Obama has Joe The Thug.

This will be a thousand times worse under an Obama/Ayers administration.


921 posted on 10/23/2008 7:06:41 PM PDT by FTL
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To: LadyPilgrim

I think there is no video...that the attack happened out of camera range.


922 posted on 10/23/2008 7:09:44 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Is that a mini-claymore or have they change the design.


923 posted on 10/23/2008 7:12:11 PM PDT by Busywhiskers ("Shave off the whiskers of unnecessary thought." Occams Razor)
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To: floriduh voter

Take a deep breath...Maybe a nice prozac or two...then read my posts again.

We’ll speak when you’re not hysterical.


924 posted on 10/23/2008 7:14:25 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (They're penguins! Just wipe the oil off the white parts and toss 'em back!!)
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To: Miss Didi

After seeing the photo, I’m wondering too. I’ll just say this, her eye is very black and not very swollen, if swollen at all. I sincerely hope this young woman isn’t vying for attention in this manner.


925 posted on 10/23/2008 7:21:38 PM PDT by kenth (Will Rogers never met Barack Obama.)
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To: LongElegantLegs

Story’s legit.


926 posted on 10/23/2008 7:22:21 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Barack Obama: Carving a New America for McCain Voters)
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To: philomath
Actually, a mirror-guided incision is much more difficult than a non-reversed freehand. The former will have hesitation marks which make the lines look as if made up of many slightly off-angle lines and has a jerky look to it. Also, reversed-vision corners are seldom neat or smooth. This wound could have been made with a blade like a BP 12 http://www.bd.com/surgical/pdfs/surgical_blades_handles_and_disposable_scalpels.pdf or a linoleum knife used to score the skin, but not cut it much, hence the lack of scab as pointed out by some astute posters. (On a weird note, the wound looks a lot like a cryo freeze burn, but this would require access to a medical liquid gas cryo system, and then someone would have to rough her up on the other side) Her periorbital bruising seems real and consistent with stated mechanism of injury, as does her eyelid edema, both worse on the side opposite the wound. I would like to see some close-ups of the wound line to further help sort this out, but for now her story is the most plausible. Even if this is a superficial wound, it is a horrible terrorizing of a young girl and an attempt to abrogate our essential freedoms. It is not coincidence that this mutilation was exactly where BO told his supporters to get: in their faces.

Whence come thine insights?

927 posted on 10/23/2008 7:26:08 PM PDT by ReagansShinyHair
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To: Miss Didi

Thanks for the info. I haven’t read all the threads.
There are about 10 or more about this.


928 posted on 10/23/2008 7:26:22 PM PDT by LadyPilgrim ((Lifted up was He to die; It is finished was His cry; Hallelujah what a Savior!!!!!! ))
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To: Miss Didi; publana

Thanks for the updates. I will go check out Malkin’s page. Looks pretty obvious from her pic that something happened to the poor girl. I guess when you are a republican, everything is suspect...(eye roll).


929 posted on 10/23/2008 7:29:16 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Dead Corpse
How deep you cut and smoothly you can make turns depends on the knife type and blade sharpness. This could easily be a linoleum knife using only the beaked portion of the blade. Doesn't have to carry a full supply of surgical blades:”Hold on my dear whilst I pick the right blade for you”. I see some mighty nice, sharp rippers at Lowe's that could easily be used in surgery.

A simple scratch won't cause what she had; it would be deeper, into but not cutting the dermis, so the skin doesn't shear and the fat doesn't gape through. For her sake, at least the guy had a steady hand. I agree with you that it happened as stated. I think the hoax/real argument diminishes the horror of what's been done by sidetracking interest and attention. That's what the newbies have been sent here to do.

930 posted on 10/23/2008 7:32:35 PM PDT by philomath (from the state of Franklin)
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To: Dead Corpse
How deep you cut and smoothly you can make turns depends on the knife type and blade sharpness. This could easily be a linoleum knife using only the beaked portion of the blade. Doesn't have to carry a full supply of surgical blades:”Hold on my dear whilst I pick the right blade for you”. I see some mighty nice, sharp rippers at Lowe's that could easily be used in surgery.

A simple scratch won't cause what she had; it would be deeper, into but not cutting the dermis, so the skin doesn't shear and the fat doesn't gape through. For her sake, at least the guy had a steady hand. I agree with you that it happened as stated. I think the hoax/real argument diminishes the horror of what's been done by sidetracking interest and attention. That's what the newbies have been sent here to do.

931 posted on 10/23/2008 7:32:41 PM PDT by philomath (from the state of Franklin)
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To: LongElegantLegs

I have to agree with you LEL. Too soon to jump, need more facts.


932 posted on 10/23/2008 7:38:34 PM PDT by Shyla
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To: FTL

Now in THIS photo I can really see the swelling of her cheek under the B.

If she had her glasses on during the attack, I can see where they would have banged up against her eye area enough to give her the black eyes.


933 posted on 10/23/2008 7:39:05 PM PDT by Shelayne (Pray without ceasing. Pray the Lord's Hand in our election process.)
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To: philomath

Okay so I’m a newbie. Sort of.

I’m not 100% sure that this is made up but it has so many of the signs of a hoax. She described a big dark-skinned black guy, 6’4” and 200 lbs. That is a very specific description coming from a little white girl who would have been looking up at just about any assailant over 5’10” or so. Why does a big guy like that use a weapon at all on a little white girl. Just saying “gimme the money” while looking down at her from inside her personal space ought to do the trick.

Does anybody remember that crazy broad who drove her kids into a lake a few years ago and said they had been snatched by a scary looking black guy? The whole country was on the lookout for the scary looking black guy until her story unraveled. Black folks certainly thought it was a flaky story from the get go. And they were right.


934 posted on 10/23/2008 7:46:58 PM PDT by SBprone
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To: floriduh voter

Good point. Fighting the good fight from inside a dungeon? He’d do better in the streets and alleys and deal with less scum.


935 posted on 10/23/2008 7:51:23 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: jellybean
Where in Pittsburgh?? My son lives there!

My daughter lives there.

936 posted on 10/23/2008 7:51:32 PM PDT by Big Horn (I bac Mac)
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To: ajwharton

Amen brother, here in Missconsin a woman put out her McPain/Palin sign the other day & got two of her tires slashed & they crumpled the sign, she puts it back on the lawn & next night other two tires slashed, these Ozombies need to face some armed conservative gun owners.

Tee Hee could you see it now Liberls VS Conservatives, you want to go to war let’s see how tough you are now! They don’t even know what a gun is.


937 posted on 10/23/2008 7:55:33 PM PDT by BrianE (Look right, think right, lefties must yield the right of way .)
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To: penelopesire
Malkin summed up most of it.

Besides the backwards aspect (the whole mirror thing), somebody who claims to be a cop on Malkin's website said it was too clean and shallow of a cut, that it looks like it was carefully done rather than violently done. I can't find it now, it's in one of the other threads instead of this one I believe, but there was a post by a FReeper who is a retired detective, who has also seen plenty of stabbings and slashings, and he said that was the first thing he noticed was that it was too neatly done - that somebody who is angry enough and violent enough to do something like that isn't going to be nice about it, and you would see a substantial amount of damage, including down to the bone at some points.

I don't know what to think other than she needs help.
938 posted on 10/23/2008 7:55:43 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Yaelle

And we won’t see this on MSNBC or CNN.


939 posted on 10/23/2008 7:57:25 PM PDT by BrianE (Look right, think right, lefties must yield the right of way .)
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To: Mazeman

Quote: I’m glad I don’t live near a big city, and I have a CCW.

Sweet! Can’t have one here in Missconsin or Illinoyed, all because of Dimwits & Ozombies.


940 posted on 10/23/2008 8:01:56 PM PDT by BrianE (Look right, think right, lefties must yield the right of way .)
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To: af_vet_rr

If she did it herself as a set up for “O”bama, then why would this highly intelligent and politically astute young woman use the letter “B” instead of the letter “O” that everyone involved in politics knows is the Obama symbol, just as the swastika is widely known.

Instead the fact that its a “B” further indicates an ignorant attacker, in a hurry and confused on what to carve or in his mind he thinks its “B” for “Bama” instead of O.

The fact he put B just cements it even more that this was no self inflicted mutilation. Just another stupid you know what (uh, thug, that’s right thug) who screwed even this up.

Ever see the photo of the moronic road painting crew that dyslexically painted Sotp in stead of Stop on the pavement?

Or Scool instead of School?

This reminds me of those type of situations.


941 posted on 10/23/2008 8:03:00 PM PDT by FTL
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To: af_vet_rr

When people get angry and pumped full of adrenalin they loose fine motor control. That’s why cops send so many errant shots downrange in a real confrontation and that’s why people in a fight can hurt their adversaries so bad.

Angry, agitated people are rough people.


942 posted on 10/23/2008 8:06:11 PM PDT by SBprone
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To: wolfcreek

(I see miles and miles of Texas....let’s keep it that way.)

I love it! May god bless that beautiful red state.


943 posted on 10/23/2008 8:15:34 PM PDT by BrianE (Look right, think right, lefties must yield the right of way .)
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To: FTL; SBprone
in a hurry and confused

Maybe we are looking at two different photos, but "in a hurry and confused" does not match up with the wounds.

SBprone in #942 explains why people familiar with stabbings and slash wounds (and violent attacks in general) think there would have been a much more violent wound than what's in the photo. She stated that the guy was very angry and was punching and kicking her. As SBprone pointed out, when you hit that point and the adrenaline is flowing, you lose fine motor control.
944 posted on 10/23/2008 8:16:36 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: All; Issaquahking

I don’t actually believe it, yet.


945 posted on 10/23/2008 8:16:52 PM PDT by DeLaine (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. Jefferson)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

I don’t believe it yet


946 posted on 10/23/2008 8:17:22 PM PDT by DeLaine (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. Jefferson)
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To: floriduh voter

Quite probably.
Still, I would encourage people not to commit themselves emotionally until a couple days have passed, just to be sure.


947 posted on 10/23/2008 8:18:54 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (They're penguins! Just wipe the oil off the white parts and toss 'em back!!)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

What I would see is the flesh broken and bleeding profusely, especially on a part of the body where the skin is especially thin, such as the cheek or the back of a hand.

You are being duped here. Badly.


948 posted on 10/23/2008 8:20:58 PM PDT by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: floriduh voter

I’m sure you thought Crystal Magnum’s was the first day, too.


949 posted on 10/23/2008 8:23:01 PM PDT by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: FTL
Note, I'm not necessarily passing judgment on her, but I do have questions about the situation, given what SBprone and others have said here and elsewhere as far as the wound itself, as well as why she refused medical attention - if she was attacked, she needs to get it documented just how extensive the injuries are, otherwise it won't hold up in court. The cops can take pictures, but you really need medical records documenting how deep the wounds were, etc., otherwise a half-decent defense lawyer will get the case thrown out and any perps would walk free. They are liable to recreate the wound with a paper clip or something else sharp that can scratch, and show it to the jury and tear her story apart.

In other words, she's not taking the steps she needs to take in order to get any perpetrators sent to prison.
950 posted on 10/23/2008 8:23:44 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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