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Democrat: Obama's grandma confirms Kenyan birth'...real sham he's pulled off for the last 20 months'
WND ^ | October 23, 2008

Posted on 10/23/2008 10:30:22 PM PDT by Red Steel

The Pennsylvania Democrat who has sued Sen. Barack Obama demanding he prove his American citizenship – and therefore qualification to run for president – has confirmed he has a recording of a telephone call from the senator's paternal grandmother confirming his birth in Kenya.

The issue of Obama's birthplace, which he states is Honolulu in 1961, has been raised enough times that his campaign website has posted an image purporting to be of his "Certification of Live Birth" from Hawaii.

But Philip J. Berg, a former deputy attorney general for Pennsylvania, told the Michael Savage talk radio program tonight that the document is forged and that he has a tape recording he will soon release.

"This has been a real sham he's pulled off for the last 20 months," Berg told Savage. "I'll release it [the tape] in a day or two, affidavits from her talking to a certain person. I heard the tape. She was speaking [to someone] here in the United States."

He said the telephone call was from Obama's paternal grandmother affirming she "was in the delivery room in Kenya when he was born Aug. 4, 1961."

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Three, be a natural-born citizen. He is not."

Obama campaign officials acknowledged the dispute by posting the image purporting to be a copy of his certification of live birth earlier this year. But they've declined to return WND requests for comment...

WND reported earlier this week Berg's claim that Obama has legally "admitted" the accusations included in his lawsuit, including that he was born in Mombosa, Kenya, by not responding to the allegations.

Berg has cited Rule 36 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, which states that unless the accused party provides written answer or objection to charges within 30 days, the accused legally admits the matter.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: alienobama; bc; birthcertificate; certifigate; colb; obama; obamagate; obamaisgoingdown; obamatruthsquad
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To: Klepto
They base the forgery deduction from the one on Obama’s site and not on the one he produced for FactCheck.

FactCheck????? ROTFLOL!!!

The fact is, the ANNENBERG Public Policy Center (APPC), the sponsoring agency behind FastCheck.org,
is itself supported by the same foundation, the ANNENBERG FOUNDATION, that Bill Ayers secured the 49.2 million dollars from to create the Chicago ANNENBERG Challenge “philanthropic” organization in which Barack Obama was the founding Chairman of the Board for and Ayers served as the grant writer of and co-Chair of for its two operating arms.

I wouldn't trust FactCheck.org to tell me there was a beautiful blue sky in NYC on 9-11-01.

Welcome to FR.

21 posted on 10/23/2008 10:50:16 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: dsc

If your mother is married to your father and your father is a Kenyan muslim, and you are born in Kenya, you are a Kenyan muslim.

One parent does not suffice for US citizenship. Else every Thirdworldistani mother would claim that a US serviceman (or tourist) was the daddy.


22 posted on 10/23/2008 10:51:32 PM PDT by null and void (Socialism doesn't work because of people./People don't work because of socialism...)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Wasn't Obama’s mother an American citizen from Kansas?

If my(American citizen)daughter's child is born in Forres, Scotland while she is there on an extended vacation does that mean my grandchild will not be a naturalized American citizen even though my daughter was born in Florida to a family that came here in 1830?

23 posted on 10/23/2008 10:53:00 PM PDT by KDD ( it's not what people don't know that make them ignorant it's what they know that ain't so.)
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To: XR7

They may not care a “rat’s arse”, but even if Obama manages a narrow win now, the courts will care. If Biden, then, becomes POTUS, he will be holding on for dear life for his four year term. At two years, the dems will lose control of the House and a conservative President will waltz into the White House two years later with substantial loses to dems in the Senate. Socialist will never maintain power in the freedom loving USA.


24 posted on 10/23/2008 10:54:11 PM PDT by downtownconservative (Intelligence sans reason is vainglorious pulp)
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To: downtownconservative
Socialists will never maintain power in the freedom loving USA.

What do you call what we've been living under the past couple of decades?
That's the problem.
We've been like the proverbial frogs in the frying pan.
Obama would just turn up the heat a little more.

Don't believe me?
What exactly was the bailout all about?

25 posted on 10/23/2008 11:00:58 PM PDT by XR7
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To: KDD

Someone else might know better, but I think it depends on whether the father is an American citizen whether your grandchild will be considered a natural born citizen. I believe Mitt Romney was born in Mexico, but both his parents were US citizens, therefore, he is considered a natural born US citizen.


26 posted on 10/23/2008 11:01:42 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: Klepto

All Obama has to do is present genuine evidence, and this issue will go away. It’s very simple.

We’re still waiting.


27 posted on 10/23/2008 11:01:43 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Klepto; All

Well, Klepto, I see you’ve only been a Freeper for 6 days. Isn’t the DU missing you about now.

Go home troll.


28 posted on 10/23/2008 11:03:21 PM PDT by no dems ("Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice...." Barry Goldwater)
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To: KDD
You daughter can get a certificate of American Citizen Born Abroad from the local US Consul.

Whether your grandkid would be eligible to be President and CIC some day is not clearly defined at this point. Not all citizens are, only 'natural born citizens' qualify.

What exactly that turn of phrase means is the topic of a rather lively debate at the moment...

29 posted on 10/23/2008 11:03:52 PM PDT by null and void (Socialism doesn't work because of people./People don't work because of socialism...)
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To: dsc

Not true in 1961.


30 posted on 10/23/2008 11:04:38 PM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: dsc

to be president you must be a NATURAL BORN citizen. Unless they were born in military territories, they can’t be president. That’s the constitution and the law.


31 posted on 10/23/2008 11:04:48 PM PDT by Marie2 (Everything the left does has the effect and intent of destroying the traditional family.)
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To: downtownconservative

You see the big picture. :-)


32 posted on 10/23/2008 11:06:11 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
All Obama has to do is present genuine evidence, and this issue will go away. It’s very simple.

All attorney Berg has to do is present some real evidence.
We're stil waiting.
Oh yeah.
It's a "recorded phonecall."
Illegal, unless the grandmother gave explicit consent.
Assuming such a recording actually exists.

BTW: Remember "Baghdad Jim" McDermott?

33 posted on 10/23/2008 11:07:42 PM PDT by XR7
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To: downtownconservative
If Biden, then, becomes POTUS, he will be holding on for dear life for his four year term.

And who would be Veep???

Biden will leave office one way or another on 21 Jan 2010. Hillary!™ will finish his term and still be eligible for two more full terms of her very own...

34 posted on 10/23/2008 11:09:37 PM PDT by null and void (Socialism doesn't work because of people./People don't work because of socialism...)
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To: XR7

You miss the point: If proven that he does not meet the Constitutional criteria BEFORE the Election, all votes cast for him means Biden becomes President if the ticket wins. Same applies if they win and it is proven AFTER the election. NOW, HERE’S THE RUB....

If this is proven BEFORE the election, and his supporters know that he will not sit in the Oval Office but Biden will, they will be so demoralized and depressed they will not show up to vote just to put another old, white guy in office. Can you say “President McCain”?


35 posted on 10/23/2008 11:09:39 PM PDT by no dems ("Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice...." Barry Goldwater)
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To: no dems

Thanks for expressing my feelings!


36 posted on 10/23/2008 11:10:40 PM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: FFranco
I believe Mitt Romney was born in Mexico

Could you be thinking of his father Governor George Romney ?

37 posted on 10/23/2008 11:11:07 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F/8 Cav)
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To: Texas4ever

Not a chance.


38 posted on 10/23/2008 11:11:25 PM PDT by no dems ("Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice...." Barry Goldwater)
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To: XR7

The onus is on Obama. The issue will not go away for Obama.


39 posted on 10/23/2008 11:12:48 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: dsc

His father was NOT a U.S. citizen serving in another country in the military. Same rules do NOT apply.


40 posted on 10/23/2008 11:12:52 PM PDT by no dems ("Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice...." Barry Goldwater)
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