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Obama's faith is widely mistaken in Kentucky (do they think he's Christian?)
Lexington Herald-Leader ^ | 10/26/2008 | Jack Brammer

Posted on 10/26/2008 8:02:26 AM PDT by markomalley

FRANKFORT — Public misconception is widespread in Kentucky about Barack Obama's faith, a Herald-Leader/WKYT Kentucky Poll shows.

Despite heavy national media attention about Obama's faith, more than half of likely Republican voters — 54 percent — and one of every four Democrats in the state do not know that the Democratic presidential nominee is a Christian, the poll found.

The poll showed that 14 percent of likely Kentucky voters — 28 percent of Republicans, 4 percent of Democrats and 11 percent of independents — think Obama adheres to the Muslim faith.

"With all the media attention to the fact that Obama is a Christian, it is shocking and sad to hear that any Kentuckian or anyone thinks he is a Muslim," said Mahmoud Sha lash, imam of the Islamic Center of Lexington.

"I am concerned that some people are spreading this rumor for political purposes, trying to exploit the anti-Islamic sentiment in this country that ties Muslims with terrorists," Shalash said. "I don't blame the ignorant bigots as much as the educated people who try to perpetrate this."

The telephone poll of 600 likely voters was conducted Oct. 19-21 by Research 2000, of Olney, Md. It has a margin of error of 4 percentage points.

Those polled were asked the religion of Obama and his GOP opponent, John McCain. Respondents were not offered suggestions to choose from.

Sixty-one percent said Obama was a Christian. One percent answered Catholic, 12 percent said other and 12 percent were not sure.

Eighty-two percent said McCain was a Christian. Six percent called him an evangelical, while 3 percent answered Catholic, 2 percent replied other and 7 percent were not sure.

Del Ali, president of Research 2000, said he'd like to ask those respondents who said Obama is a Muslim if they listen to syndicated conservative talk show hosts Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity.

Ali also thinks many people know Obama considers himself a Christian but don't believe he is one. "That's a personal opinion from national polls I've seen on this issue," he said.

The non-partisan Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life says Obama's denomination is United Church of Christ and McCain, raised an Episcopalian, attends a Southern Baptist church. It also says Obama's running mate Joe Biden, is a Roman Catholic, and McCain's running mate, Sarah Palin, attends several evangelical churches in Alaska.

Obama's campaign had little to say about the poll results.

"This election is about issues," said Obama spokesman Dan Leistikow. "It's about whether voters in Kentucky and across the country want another four years of the same failed policies that caused this economic mess and sent Kentucky job overseas."

Kentucky Republican Party Chairman Steve Robertson said the presidential candidates' religion has not been an issue in Kentucky. He said more Republicans than Democrats think Obama is a Muslim because Obama "has made an effort in Kentucky to portray his religious beliefs to Democrats but has not talked about religion to Kentucky Republicans."

Robertson said he was referring to fliers the Obama campaign distributed in Kentucky this spring during the Democratic primary election that showed Obama at a pulpit in front of a church's cross and pipe organ.

The erroneous perception that Obama is a Muslim might be due in part to the fact that he spent part of his childhood in a Muslim country and that his father was a Muslim, said the GOP official.

Obama's name makes some people think he is a Muslim, said Walter A. Johnson, director of information services for the Lexington Theological Seminary.

"I had a friend who said Obama is a Muslim because of his name," Johnson said. "I said McCain has an Irish name, but I think he's an American."

Republican Larry Forgy, who narrowly lost to Democrat Paul Patton in Kentucky's 1995 race for governor, said Obama's heritage is why some people think he is a Muslim.

"I know he's not a practicing Muslim but, to me, his preacher, Jeremiah Wright, sounds more like Malcolm X than Billy Graham."

Wright is the former pastor and now pastor emeritus of the Trinity United Church of Christ, a megachurch in Chicago with about 10,000 members.

His manner of preaching has been scrutinized in connection with Obama's campaign. Obama first denounced some of Wright's statements and then resigned his membership in the church last May.

Martin Cothran, senior policy advisor for The Family Foundation of Kentucky, a conservative activist group based in Lexington, said he is "surprised that so many people don't know Obama is not a Muslim."

"I think it's simply because his name sounds Islamic," he said.

Laila Al-Qatami, communications director for the American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee in Washington, D.C., said it is "disheartening" that any American still thinks Obama is a Muslim or Arab.

"Too many people associate Muslims with terrorists, that is, a proclivity to violence or people who are not patriotic to this country," Al-Qatami said. "Calling Obama a Muslim is an attempt to discredit him."

The Herald-Leader/WKYT Kentucky Poll found little confusion among voters about McCain's faith. More than 80 percent of the respondents in each major political party — Democrats, Republicans and independents — said McCain is a Christian.

A large percentage of whites and blacks — 83 percent of the whites and 77 percent of the blacks — said McCain is a Christian

But for Obama, blacks and whites viewed his religious beliefs very differently. When whites were asked Obama's religion, 58 percent said Christian, 16 percent Muslim, 1 percent Catholic, 13 percent other and 12 percent not sure.

Eighty-two percent of blacks said Obama is a Christian, while only 2 percent of blacks considered him a Muslim.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: antichrist; antichristian; atheist; christianity; christians; disavow; dnctalkingpoints; falseprophet; godgap; goebbelswouldbeproud; ky2008; lietothekufir; muslim; obama; obamaandgod; obamessiah; poll; religion; religiousleft; secularhumanist; strawdoganalysis; thebiglie
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FWIW, there is a poll on the article's webpage. (I answered "none" for his religion, in case anybody's interested)
1 posted on 10/26/2008 8:02:26 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

I would say that Wright is chris-LAMIC and that Obama follows him.


2 posted on 10/26/2008 8:04:48 AM PDT by Loud Mime (The good news: We can still buy guns and ammo - get them while you can!)
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To: markomalley
I thought his religion was Marxism...He sure spouts it well.


3 posted on 10/26/2008 8:04:57 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: markomalley

Not public misconception—public uncertainty. And WRIGHTly so.


4 posted on 10/26/2008 8:05:28 AM PDT by Huck (Teddy Roosevelt vs. Che Guevera)
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To: markomalley

“With all the media attention to the fact that Obama is a Christian, it is shocking and sad to hear that any Kentuckian or anyone thinks he is a Muslim,” said Mahmoud Sha lash, imam of the Islamic Center of Lexington.

I’m shocked you are dissing Obama for the Muslim he IS.

Never mind. It’s part of your religion to lie and pretend whant you need to pretend for the bigger picture - to Muslimize the U.S..


5 posted on 10/26/2008 8:05:45 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: markomalley
That "church" he (sometimes) attended in Chicago was NOT teaching Bible based Christianity. It was some kind of weird racist political organization.


6 posted on 10/26/2008 8:05:50 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: markomalley
do not know the Democratic presidential nominee is a Christian.

What's that called in logic when you have a false premise?

7 posted on 10/26/2008 8:05:59 AM PDT by gotribe (obama just sucks)
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To: markomalley

Going to Church makes one a Christian like standing in a garage makes on a car.

Now, 0bama’s church does not preach a “traditional” Christian message, but one of Black Nationalism and “Liberation Theology.”

Has the Media done their homework?


8 posted on 10/26/2008 8:06:36 AM PDT by Boiling Pots (Get off your ass and do something...Print signs and post them around town)
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To: markomalley

SHORT VERSION: Despite all the best efforts by the lick-spittle, lame-stream media to mask the real proclivities of this atheist, muslim-sympathizing Marxist, a few folks still understand the candidate to be what he really is; a disaster waiting to happen


9 posted on 10/26/2008 8:06:37 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: markomalley

When I watched the video where Obama refers to “my Muslim faith”, I was convinced.


10 posted on 10/26/2008 8:07:09 AM PDT by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: markomalley
THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA'S UPBRINGING

Kentuckicans know a skunk when they smell one.

11 posted on 10/26/2008 8:07:17 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: markomalley

He may be many things....but his faith is Marxist but his heart lies with the Islamacists.


12 posted on 10/26/2008 8:08:17 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: markomalley

Really the point is with all the MSM about his propganda the media are disappointed that such a large percentage of people are willing to come to their own judgement.


13 posted on 10/26/2008 8:08:36 AM PDT by JLS (Do you really want change being two guys from the majority of Congress with a 9% approval rating?)
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To: Jeff Head

For someone to truly be a Christian, he/she must be baptized in a Christian church. Does anyone know if Hussein was ever baptized??? Just a thought.


14 posted on 10/26/2008 8:09:19 AM PDT by Galtoid ( .)
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To: markomalley

Christian? He may SAY he’s a Christian but IMHO, he’s a CINO! Christian in name only! More likely, he’s a closet muslim, as revealed in his “my muslim faith” comment during the George S. interview.


15 posted on 10/26/2008 8:09:49 AM PDT by nfldgirl (Tribe Member: 'Runs with Rush')
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To: gotribe
What's that called in logic when you have a false premise?

I think it's called "Straw Dog Analysis." ;-)

16 posted on 10/26/2008 8:10:13 AM PDT by Ken522
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To: BenLurkin

17 posted on 10/26/2008 8:10:19 AM PDT by Colonial Warrior (Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction.)
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To: markomalley
Republican Larry Forgy, who narrowly lost to Democrat Paul Patton in Kentucky's 1995 race for governor, said Obama's heritage is why some people think he is a Muslim. "I know he's not a practicing Muslim but, to me, his preacher, Jeremiah Wright, sounds more like Malcolm X than Billy Graham."

You got it, Larry.

18 posted on 10/26/2008 8:10:33 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: muir_redwoods

Well, how ‘bout us Kentuckians? We might be the ignorant hillbillies the media says we are...but maybe we are able to figure out a few things.


19 posted on 10/26/2008 8:10:41 AM PDT by damper99
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To: markomalley
I have news...ANYBODY, I do not care if you are Republican or Democrat, if you support abortion in any way shape or form, you do not have the Spirit of Christ within you.

No Barack Obama is not a Christian, but only an impostor.

On top of the fact that he is for infanticide (what any type of abortion is) he supports judges that will ban Christ from the public square etc, not to mention he has stated that homosexuality is not a sin...IT IS!!

On top of that, he believes in a crazy theory of evolution as apposed to Gods word that the world was created by God/Christ in 6 days.

NO OBAMA IS NOT A CHRISTIAN

20 posted on 10/26/2008 8:10:50 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (TINA FEY WISHES SHE LOOKED LIKE SARAH PALIN. FEY IS HOMELY, SARAH IS KNOCKOUT DROP DEAD GORGEOUS)
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To: Galtoid
...and not just baptized, but baptized unto Jesus Christ. When you look at what Black Liberation theology teaches...it is anything but that.

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY

21 posted on 10/26/2008 8:11:40 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: markomalley

He is his own god. Dripping delusional arrogance with the MSM mopping up his slimy trail.


22 posted on 10/26/2008 8:11:47 AM PDT by allmost
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To: markomalley

Obamanation is pro abortion, pro gay marriage, and anti Church. How could one possibly think he is a Christian?


23 posted on 10/26/2008 8:11:50 AM PDT by realcleanguy
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To: markomalley
Despite heavy national media attention about Obama's faith, more than half of likely Republican voters — 54 percent — and one of every four Democrats in the state do not know that the Democratic presidential nominee is a Christian, the poll found.

SPIN!!!!!

I was participated in a telephone poll last Wednesday.

The questions was (very similar to):

"What do you believe Democratic Presidential Candidate Barak 0bama's religion to be? Press 1 if you think DPCBO is a Christian. Press 2 if you think DPCBO is a Muslim. Press 3 if you do not know DPCBO's religion."

I pressed "2". Yes, I know he claims to be a Christian.

I just don't happen to believe that claim.

24 posted on 10/26/2008 8:12:13 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: markomalley

It’s okay to lie to the kaffir’s - so he says he is Christian - but the hate that “comes forth” from that Preacher in Chicago - is not Christian - more likened to Islam...

BCW


25 posted on 10/26/2008 8:12:33 AM PDT by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com)
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To: markomalley

If he is a Christian, I am the Pope.


26 posted on 10/26/2008 8:13:00 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: TommyDale

I know many Christians named “Hussein.” Well, a few. OK, no one.
I believe that Mr. Obama is of the obamian faith/cult.


27 posted on 10/26/2008 8:15:11 AM PDT by BIV (typical white person)
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To: markomalley
"more than half of likely Republican voters — 54 percent — and one of every four Democrats in the state do not know that the Democratic presidential nominee is a Christian, the poll found."

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He's a secular humanist. Jesus is a dead historical figure to him. Jesus is NOT Risen, is NOT the Truth, or the Way.

Barack Hussein Obama is proud of his skepticism of organized religion. When he DID commit to a church, it was a 20 year affiliation with the former muslim's Jeremiah Wright's black nationalist "church".

Obama's election website denies he ever was a muslim. Obama's own book and interviews include accounts of him studying the koran in religion class as a child and that he can still flawlessly recite the Islamic call to prayer in arabic.

Is he still a muslim? That is a different question than was he EVER a muslim, which his handlers insist was "no".

As to his "being a Christian", he is a secular humanist. He sees Jesus as a dead historical figure, not a living savior.

2004 Interview: Obama Talks about Jesus, Heaven and Sin June 3, 2008

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2111204/posts?

“OBAMA: Right. Jesus is a historical figure for me, and he’s also a bridge between God and man, in the Christian faith, and one that I think is powerful precisely because he serves as that means of us reaching something higher. And he’s also a wonderful teacher. I think it’s important for all of us, of whatever faith, to have teachers in the flesh and also teachers in history.”

Obama: "There’s the belief, certainly in some quarters, that people haven’t embraced Jesus Christ as their personal savior that they're going to hell." GG: You don’t believe that?

OBAMA: I find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell. I can’t imagine that my God would allow some little Hindu kid in India who never interacts with the Christian faith to somehow burn for all eternity. That’s just not part of my religious makeup.

GG: What is sin?

OBAMA: Being out of alignment with my values.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Dunham#Religion Religion

A “friend” from high school has said that Dunham “touted herself as an atheist, and it was something she'd read about and could argue.”[6] Maya Soetoro-Ng, when asked if her mother was an atheist, said, “I wouldn't have called her an atheist. She was an agnostic. She basically gave us all the good books — the Bible, the Hindu Upanishads and the Buddhist scripture, the Tao Te Ching — and wanted us to recognise that everyone has something beautiful to contribute.”[19] “Jesus, she felt, was a wonderful example. But she felt that a lot of Christians behaved in un-Christian ways.”[20]

In his 1995 memoir Dreams from My Father Barack Obama wrote, “My mother's confidence in needlepoint virtues depended on a faith I didn't possess... In a land [Indonesia] where fatalism remained a necessary tool for enduring hardship... she was a lonely witness for secular humanism, a soldier for New Deal, Peace Corps, position-paper liberalism.”[21] In his 2006 book The Audacity of Hope Obama wrote, “I was not raised in a religious household... My mother's own experiences... only reinforced this inherited skepticism. Her memories of the Christians who populated her youth were not fond ones... And yet for all her professed secularism, my mother was in many ways the most spiritually awakened person that I've ever known.”[22] Religion for her was “just one of the many ways — and not necessarily the best way — that man attempted to control the unknowable and understand the deeper truths about our lives,” Obama wrote.[20] In 2007 Obama described his mother as “a Christian from Kansas.” “I was raised by my mother,” he continued. “So, I’ve always been a Christian.”[23][24] Also in 2007, he said in a speech, “My mother, whose parents were nonpracticing Baptists and Methodists, was one of the most spiritual souls I ever knew. But she had a healthy skepticism of religion as an institution.”[1]

The first mention I find of religion in this lengthy Time Magazine article is on page 4 http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1729524-4,00.html

“Ann took a job teaching English at the U.S. embassy. She woke up well before dawn throughout her life. Now she went into her son's room every day at 4 a.m. to give him English lessons from a U.S. correspondence course. She couldn't afford the élite international school and worried he wasn't challenged enough. After two years at the Catholic school, Obama moved to a state-run elementary school closer to the new house. He was the only foreigner, says Ati Kisjanto, a classmate, but he spoke some Indonesian and made new friends.”

So he went to a Catholic school briefly because she thought it might be a better school.

On page 5 of the article, there is this:

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1729524-5,00.html

“Indonesia has the world's largest Muslim population, but Obama’s household was not religious. ‘My mother, whose parents were nonpracticing Baptists and Methodists, was one of the most spiritual souls I ever knew,’ Obama said in a 2007 speech. ‘But she had a healthy skepticism of religion as an institution. And as a consequence, so did I.’”

What is a “healthy skepticism of religion as an institution” for a devout Christian?

28 posted on 10/26/2008 8:16:33 AM PDT by weegee (If we're gonna share wealth, those earning > $1 a month are going to have to share with the world.)
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To: markomalley

Only 54% of Republicans and 25% of Democrats know that Obama is a muslim?


29 posted on 10/26/2008 8:16:36 AM PDT by abclily
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To: markomalley
he is "surprised that so many people don't know Obama is not a Muslim."

That's because nobody knows that he is not a Muslim. When did he convert? Where was he baptized?

Belonging to that whacked-out Jeremiah Wright hate-group doesn't make him a Christian any more than belonging to the Westboro Baptist "Church" does.

We don't even know if he is a US citizen.

30 posted on 10/26/2008 8:16:36 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: Jeff Head

Barry Hussein was raised a muslim and joined the black Chicago church which he thought would best lend itself to his political aspirations...provide the necessary “street creds.” His only true belief is in his own superiority. His God is power and the advancement of the leftist agenda.


31 posted on 10/26/2008 8:17:01 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: markomalley
"With all the media attention to the fact that Obama is a Christian, it is shocking and sad to hear that any Kentuckian or anyone thinks he is a Muslim," said Mahmoud Sha lash, imam of the Islamic Center of Lexington.

Why don't these same imam speak out against muslims like Qaddaffi who see Barack Hussein Obama as a fellow muslim?

32 posted on 10/26/2008 8:18:44 AM PDT by weegee (If we're gonna share wealth, those earning > $1 a month are going to have to share with the world.)
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To: markomalley; All
"Eighty-two percent of blacks said Obama is a Christian, while only 2 percent of blacks considered him a Muslim."

Sorry to those who've seen this before. But it's obviously very important with the election fastly approaching that more people know and understand what we are up against here. Black Liberation Theology is revolutionary communism. And Screwy Louie Farrakhan's 'Muslim' movement is 100% on board with it.

"God D*** America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11"
--Rev Dr. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor for twenty years

Wright: "In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01. White America and the Western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just 'disappeared' as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring Black concerns."

"America’s chickens... are coming home... to ROOST!"

The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine
Monday , May 5, 2008
FoxNews/Hannity's America
[special Friday night edition--original airdate May 2, 2008]

(some key excerpts)

["(Jose) Diaz-Balart is the son of Rafael Diaz-Balart y Guitierrez (a former Cuban politician). He has three bothers, Rafael Diaz-Balart (a banker), Mario Diaz-Balart (a US Congressman) and Lincoln Diaz-Balart (also a US Congressman). His aunt, Mirta Diaz-Balart, was Fidel Castro's first wife."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Diaz-Balart]

JOSE DIAZ-BALART, TELEMUNDO NETWORK: "Liberation theology in Nicaragua in the mid-1980's was a pro-Sandinista, pro-Marxist, anti-U.S., anti-Catholic Church movement. That's it. No ifs, ands, or buts. His church apparently supported, in the mid-'80s in Nicaragua, groups that supported the Sandinista dictatorships and that were opposed to the Contras whose reason for being was calling for elections. That's all I know. I was there.

I saw the churches in Nicaragua that he spoke of, and the churches were churches that talked about the need for violent revolution and I remember clearly one of the major churches in Managua where the Jesus Christ on the altar was not Jesus Christ, he was a Sandinista soldier, and the priests talked about the corruption of the West, talked about the need for revolution everywhere, and talked about 'the evil empire' which was the United States of America."

REV. BOB SCHENCK, NATIONAL CLERGY COUNCIL: "it's based in Marxism. At the core of his [Wright's] theology is really an anti-Christian understanding of God, and as part of a long history of individuals who actually advocate using violence in overthrowing those they perceive to be oppressing them, even acts of murder have been defended by followers of liberation theology. That's very, very dangerous."

SCHENCK: "I was actually the only person escorted to Dr. Wright. He asked to see me, and I simply welcomed him to Washington, and then I said Dr. Wright, I want to bring you a warning: your embrace of Marxist liberation theology. It is contrary to the Gospel, and you need, sir, to abandon it. And at that he dropped the handshake and made it clear that he was not in the mood to dialogue on that point."

Source: The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html

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From the Louis Farrakhan, Nation of Islam website, FinalCall.com...
Malik Zulu Shabazz, chairman of the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense (NBPP):
"We are happy today to be standing side by side with the Nation of Islam. We believe, like the Nation of Islam and the Honorable Elijah Muhammad believe, in a nation of our own. We believe in a Black first philosophy and a Black Liberation Theology. We don’t worry about the criticism. We love all of those who labored in the Panther Party from the ’60s. Many are with us today."
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_1858.shtml

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From the Maoist Internationist Movement:
[1960s] Black Panther Party [BPP] Archives
From the article: REVOLUTIONARY HEROES

"On May 1st, May Day [1969], the day of the gigantic Free Huey rally, two of Alioto's top executioners vamped on the brothers from the Brown Community who were attending to their own affairs. These brothers, who are endowed with the revolutionary spirit of the Black Panther Party defended themselves from the racist pig gestapo.

Pig Joseph Brodnik received his just reward with a big hole in the chest. Pig Paul McGoran got his in the mouth which was not quite enough to off him.

The revolutionary brothers escaped the huge swarm of pigs with dogs, mace, tanks and helicopters, proving once again that "the spirit of the people is greater than the man's technology."

To these brothers the revolutionary people of racist America want to say, by your revolutionary deed you are heroes, and that you are always welcome to our camp."

Source: Maoist Internationist Movement
Article: REVOLUTIONARY HEROS (May 11, 1969):
http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/bpp/index.html

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Louis Farrakhan, at the Millions More Movement rally in DC, Oct 15, 2005: "...what Mao Tse Tung did was, he went to the cultural community, and they [Farrakhan spreads his arms beneficently] accepted his idea."... "Mao Tse Tung ... had a billion people whose lives he had to transform."..."the idea of Mao Tse Tung became the idea of a billion people, and China became a world power on the base of the culture and the arts community. If we had a ministry of art and culture in every city we'd create this movement [in the U.S.]."
Source: http://thedrunkablog.blogspot.com/2005/10/communist-plot-noted.html

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Louis Farrakhan, Santiago de Cuba, February, 1998: "There is not a member of the black masses in the United States who is not proud of the example set by Cuba and its revolution, with Comandante Fidel at its head"
Source: http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/farakhan21898.html#says

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"Minister Farrakhan and his delegation met privately with President Fidel Castro of Cuba."
http://www.finalcall.com/media/cuba/

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[that's Michelle Obama with Mrs. Farrakhan. Mrs. Farrakhan is at center bottom wearing white]
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/03/michelle-obama-and-louis-farrakhans-wife-together-in-photo/

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Louis Farrakhan, at the annual Saviours' Day celebration in Chicago, Feb. 25, 2008: "This young man is the hope of the entire world that America will change and be made better"..."If you look at Barack Obama's audiences and look at the effect of his words, those people are being transformed."
Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23333598/

Must see video of Farrakhan's Obama endorsement at the above 'annual Saviours' Day celebration in Chicago, Feb. 25, 2008'. Hear him call Obama "The Messiah"! And speak of "universal change":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OowxMcVTjTE

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Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Obama's pastor and spirtual advisor "crazy uncle" of more than 20 years, honors "Honorable" Minister Louis Farrakhan with the "Jeremiah A. Wright Lifetime Achievement Trumpeteer Award" at the 2007 Trumpet Gala held at the Hyatt Regency Chicago.
[it appears the original video was removed, but this one is identical to it]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW2OhkZ0RSg

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Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
Kathy Shaidle, FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008

In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obama’s pastor in a heated interview about his Church’s teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...

Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30CD9E14-B0C9-4F8C-A0A6-A896F0F44F02

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From "45 Communist Goals":
#27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion.
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

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Catholics for Marx
By Fr. Robert Sirico
FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, June 03, 2004

In the days when the Superpowers were locked in a Cold War, Latin America seethed with revolution, and millions lived behind an iron curtain, a group of theologians concocted a novel idea within the history of Christianity. They proposed to combine the teachings of Jesus with the teachings of Marx as a way of justifying violent revolution to overthrow the economics of capitalism.

The Gospels were re-rendered not as doctrine impacting on the human soul but rather as windows into the historical dialectic of class struggle. These "liberation theologians" saw every biblical criticism of the rich as a mandate to expropriate the expropriating owners of capital, and every expression of compassion for the poor as a call for an uprising by the proletarian class of peasants and workers.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=460782B7-35CC-4C9E-A2C5-93832067C7CD

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From the New York Times, April 28, 2008
Reverend Wright at the National Press Club
"In the late 1960s, when Dr. James Cone's powerful books burst onto the scene, the term 'black liberation theology' began to be used. I do not in any way disagree with Dr. Cone, nor do I in any way diminish the inimitable and incomparable contributions that he has made and that he continues to make to the field of theology. Jim, incidentally, is a personal friend of mine."
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/28/us/politics/28text-wright.html?_r=1&ref=politics&oref=sloginL

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From Jeff Head's website...
One notable quote from [James] Cone describing his Black Liberation Theology is as follows:

"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love." - "Divine Racism: The Unacknowledged Threshold Issue for Black Theology", in African-American Religious Thought: An Anthology, by William R Jones, ed Cornel West and Eddie Glaube (Westminster John Knox Press).
http://www.jeffhead.com/blacklibtheology.htm

African American Religious Thought: An Anthology (Paperback)
by Cornel West (Editor), Eddie S. Glaude Jr. (Editor)
http://www.amazon.com/African-American-Religious-Thought-Anthology/dp/0664224598

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HANNITY: But Reverend Jeremiah Wright is not backing down and has not for years and in his strong stance on the teaching of black liberation theology is nothing new. He had the same things to say last spring when he appeared on "Hannity & Colmes:"

WRIGHT: If you're not going to talk about theology in context, if you're not going to talk about liberation theology that came out of the '60s, systematized black liberation theology that started with Jim Cone in 1968 and the writings of Cone and the writings of Dwight Hopkins and the writings of womynist theologians and Asian theologians and Hispanic theologians, then you can't talk about the black value system.

HANNITY: But I'm a — reverend

WRIGHT: Do you know liberation theology, sir?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html

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YouTube: Glenn Beck on Obama and Black Liberation Theology.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cA0GEV1ibY&eurl=http://maggiesnotebook.blogspot.com/2008/04/im-speechless.html
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From the New York Times, August 24, 2003

"they [the Weather Underground] employed revolutionary jargon, advocated armed struggle and black liberation and began bombing buildings, taking responsibility for at least 20 attacks. Estimates of their number ranged at times from several dozen to several hundred."

Article: Quieter Lives for 60's Militants, but Intensity of Beliefs Hasn't Faded
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F04E4DE1539F937A1575BC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=2
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"Their founding document [the Weather Underground's] called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements[1] to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism."..."-Berger, Dan (2006). Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity. AK Press, 95.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_Underground#cite_ref-Berger_0-0

Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity (Paperback) by Dan Berger
http://www.amazon.com/Outlaws-America-Underground-Politics-Solidarity/dp/1904859410

33 posted on 10/26/2008 8:19:17 AM PDT by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: Oldpuppymax
He's a marxist with a deep islamic twist, with a whole lot of hate-America (not surprisingly) mixed in.


34 posted on 10/26/2008 8:19:21 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: markomalley

I was at a Halloween party last night, and one of my friend (who I’ve never talked politics with) firmly believes Obama is a Muslim.


35 posted on 10/26/2008 8:20:04 AM PDT by rintense (All da mavericks in da house put yo hands up!)
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To: markomalley; All
From AsiaTimesOnline, Feb 26, 2008

Barack Obama received at least some instruction in the Islamic faith of his father and went with him to the mosque, but the importance of this experience is vastly overstated by conservative commentators who seek to portray Obama as a Muslim of sorts. Radical anti-Americanism, rather than Islam, was the reigning faith in the Dunham household. ...

Barack Obama is a clever fellow who imbibed hatred of America with his mother's milk, but worked his way up the elite ladder of education and career. He shares the resentment of Muslims against the encroachment of American culture, although not their religion. He has the empathetic skill set of an anthropologist who lives with his subjects, learns their language, and elicits their hopes and fears while remaining at emotional distance. That is, he is the political equivalent of a sociopath. The difference is that he is practicing not on a primitive tribe but on the population of the United States.

There is nothing mysterious about Obama's methods. "A demagogue tries to sound as stupid as his audience so that they will think they are as clever as he is," wrote Karl Krauss. Americans are the world's biggest suckers, and laugh at this weakness in their popular culture. Listening to Obama speak, Sinclair Lewis' cynical tent-revivalist Elmer Gantry comes to mind, or, even better, Tyrone Power's portrayal of a carnival mentalist in the 1947 film noire Nightmare Alley. The latter is available for instant viewing at Netflix, and highly recommended as an antidote to having felt uplifted by an Obama speech. ..."

Article: Obama's women reveal his secret
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JB26Aa01.html
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Saul Alinsky on "Change"...

From Rules for Radicals, Alinsky outlines his strategy in organizing, writing:

"There's another reason for working inside the system. Dostoevsky said that taking a new step is what people fear most. Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people. They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and change the future. This acceptance is the reformation essential to any revolution."[2]

[2] Saul Alinsky, The Latter Rain
http://latter-rain.com/ltrain/alinski.htm
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Statement from Communist Party USA (CPUSA):

"The Communist Party USA views the 2008 elections as a tremendous opportunity to defeat the policies of the right-wing Republicans and to move our country in a new progressive direction.

The record turnout in the Democratic Presidential primary races shows that millions of voters, including millions of new voters, are using this election to bring about real change. We wholeheartedly agree with them."

http://cpusa.org/article/articleview/907/1/4/

36 posted on 10/26/2008 8:20:58 AM PDT by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: markomalley
Sixty-one percent said Obama was a Christian. One percent answered Catholic, 12 percent said other and 12 percent were not sure.

Which is it?

His mother was a non-observant Baptist. He was sent to Catholic school because she thought the other schools weren't challenging him enough, he studied the koran at school. And no one know was divergent branch of Christianity Jeremiah Wright preaches.

When and where was he baptized as a Christian?

Bet the know it all journalists DON'T know that.

37 posted on 10/26/2008 8:21:09 AM PDT by weegee (If we're gonna share wealth, those earning > $1 a month are going to have to share with the world.)
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To: markomalley
Eighty-two percent said McCain was a Christian. Six percent called him an evangelical, while 3 percent answered Catholic, 2 percent replied other and 7 percent were not sure.

Evangelical is not a religion, but thanks for playing. Click.

38 posted on 10/26/2008 8:22:12 AM PDT by weegee (If we're gonna share wealth, those earning > $1 a month are going to have to share with the world.)
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To: markomalley

In order to dispel confusion, Mr. 0bama should have changed his middle name to “Lenin”.


39 posted on 10/26/2008 8:24:32 AM PDT by reg45
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To: markomalley
"This election is about issues," said Obama spokesman Dan Leistikow. "It's about whether voters in Kentucky and across the country want another four years of the same failed policies that caused this economic mess and sent Kentucky job overseas."

A man raised abroad who will lie about his associations with antiAmerican revolutionaries, lie about his faith in God, lie about his support for same sex marriage and infanticide OUTSIDE of the womb, is a very big issue for those who "cling to religion".

The Left just doesn't get it. They still try to close the "God gap" with lies. Damnable lies.

40 posted on 10/26/2008 8:25:35 AM PDT by weegee (If we're gonna share wealth, those earning > $1 a month are going to have to share with the world.)
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To: markomalley
"I had a friend who said Obama is a Muslim because of his name," Johnson said. "I said McCain has an Irish name, but I think he's an American

Notice how McCain is not a hyphenated American. Does that mean it is code for white or mutt?

41 posted on 10/26/2008 8:27:26 AM PDT by weegee (If we're gonna share wealth, those earning > $1 a month are going to have to share with the world.)
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To: Boiling Pots

The white people who made up the Weather Underground ALSO espoused Black Liberation Nationalist rhetoric. Openly. Evne the Black Panthers questioned their support.


42 posted on 10/26/2008 8:30:43 AM PDT by weegee (If we're gonna share wealth, those earning > $1 a month are going to have to share with the world.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Even if he was born in the USA, what nationality was he when his family moved to Indonesia? What nationality of passport did he use to travel to Pakistan?


43 posted on 10/26/2008 8:32:38 AM PDT by weegee (If we're gonna share wealth, those earning > $1 a month are going to have to share with the world.)
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To: markomalley

Obama’s mother was a proud athiest, and Obama attended Muslim schools as a child. He only joined a Christian church when he moved to Chicago to launch his political career, and that’s why he chose a big church with plenty of “networking” opportunies.

How stupid do you have to be to believe Hussein Obama is a Christian?


44 posted on 10/26/2008 8:32:45 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: markomalley; All
Marcia Froelke Coburn of ChicagoMag.com reveals the reason for the Ayers' children's names:
"For two radicals once living underground, Ayers and [Bernardine] Dohrn have raised three accomplished children: Zayd (named for a fallen Black Liberation soldier and colleague), 24, graduated from Brown University and has an M.F.A. degree in writing from Boston University, where he now teaches; Malik (for Malcolm X), 21, is attending the University of California at San Diego; and Chesa, 20, their adopted son, just finished his sophomore year at Yale University."
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/08/obamas-benefact.html
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"This is a guy [Bill Ayers] who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English..."
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YouTube Video:
The O'Reilly Factor confronts Bill Ayers:
October 24, 2008:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP3uvK9gTIY
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45 posted on 10/26/2008 8:34:05 AM PDT by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: Lancey Howard
How stupid do you have to be to believe Hussein Obama is a Christian?

A little more than to believe he is a Muslim.

47 posted on 10/26/2008 8:42:06 AM PDT by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: markomalley

I just love how the press thinks there is a “correct” answer to this question.

In the first place, there are very real doubts as to whether Reverend Wright’s church deserves to be called “Christian” at all.

In the second place, we KNOW that Obama was a practicing Muslim in his youth, although he consistently lies about that, but we do not KNOW that he has ever left that faith or has ever been baptized as a Christian.

He says so? Well, he is a proven liar, time and again. I’ll believe it if he produces convincing evidence that he was baptized—witnesses, a baptismal certificate.

In the third place, Muslims all over the world love him, he belongs to a Muslim tribe and family, he has enabled (by campaigning for him and by giving him a million-dollars to pay his followers) a radical Communist/Muslim to conduct a campaign of church burning and violence in Kenya and force himself into the government, he has close connections with radical Muslims, Jew-haters, Black Muslims, and others of that kind.

In the fourth place, he clearly thinks of himself as the Messiah. And Louis Farrakhan has declared to his followers recently that Obama IS the Messiah. The video is on YouTube.

What does that mean? Christians have no tradition of such a Messiah—except for the False Messiah, the Anti-Christ. When Christ comes again it will be upon the clouds of glory, and unmistakeable. I think Ombama—like Farrakhan—means something more like the Twelfth Imam. He is the guy Ahmadinejad has been waiting for. He is the Mahdi.


48 posted on 10/26/2008 8:43:16 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: markomalley

If obama’s a Christian, Joan of Arc played second base for the Cleveland Indians!


49 posted on 10/26/2008 8:44:27 AM PDT by J40000
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To: weegee
what nationality was he when his family moved to Indonesia? What nationality of passport did he use to travel to Pakistan?

Or his recent trip to Iraq and Germany.

We don't know any of that, nor if he attended college as a foreigner, who paid for it, who his classmates were nor can we see his thesis.

50 posted on 10/26/2008 8:45:13 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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