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Obama's faith is widely mistaken in Kentucky (do they think he's Christian?)
Lexington Herald-Leader ^ | 10/26/2008 | Jack Brammer

Posted on 10/26/2008 8:02:26 AM PDT by markomalley

FRANKFORT — Public misconception is widespread in Kentucky about Barack Obama's faith, a Herald-Leader/WKYT Kentucky Poll shows.

Despite heavy national media attention about Obama's faith, more than half of likely Republican voters — 54 percent — and one of every four Democrats in the state do not know that the Democratic presidential nominee is a Christian, the poll found.

The poll showed that 14 percent of likely Kentucky voters — 28 percent of Republicans, 4 percent of Democrats and 11 percent of independents — think Obama adheres to the Muslim faith.

"With all the media attention to the fact that Obama is a Christian, it is shocking and sad to hear that any Kentuckian or anyone thinks he is a Muslim," said Mahmoud Sha lash, imam of the Islamic Center of Lexington.

"I am concerned that some people are spreading this rumor for political purposes, trying to exploit the anti-Islamic sentiment in this country that ties Muslims with terrorists," Shalash said. "I don't blame the ignorant bigots as much as the educated people who try to perpetrate this."

The telephone poll of 600 likely voters was conducted Oct. 19-21 by Research 2000, of Olney, Md. It has a margin of error of 4 percentage points.

Those polled were asked the religion of Obama and his GOP opponent, John McCain. Respondents were not offered suggestions to choose from.

Sixty-one percent said Obama was a Christian. One percent answered Catholic, 12 percent said other and 12 percent were not sure.

Eighty-two percent said McCain was a Christian. Six percent called him an evangelical, while 3 percent answered Catholic, 2 percent replied other and 7 percent were not sure.

Del Ali, president of Research 2000, said he'd like to ask those respondents who said Obama is a Muslim if they listen to syndicated conservative talk show hosts Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity.

Ali also thinks many people know Obama considers himself a Christian but don't believe he is one. "That's a personal opinion from national polls I've seen on this issue," he said.

The non-partisan Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life says Obama's denomination is United Church of Christ and McCain, raised an Episcopalian, attends a Southern Baptist church. It also says Obama's running mate Joe Biden, is a Roman Catholic, and McCain's running mate, Sarah Palin, attends several evangelical churches in Alaska.

Obama's campaign had little to say about the poll results.

"This election is about issues," said Obama spokesman Dan Leistikow. "It's about whether voters in Kentucky and across the country want another four years of the same failed policies that caused this economic mess and sent Kentucky job overseas."

Kentucky Republican Party Chairman Steve Robertson said the presidential candidates' religion has not been an issue in Kentucky. He said more Republicans than Democrats think Obama is a Muslim because Obama "has made an effort in Kentucky to portray his religious beliefs to Democrats but has not talked about religion to Kentucky Republicans."

Robertson said he was referring to fliers the Obama campaign distributed in Kentucky this spring during the Democratic primary election that showed Obama at a pulpit in front of a church's cross and pipe organ.

The erroneous perception that Obama is a Muslim might be due in part to the fact that he spent part of his childhood in a Muslim country and that his father was a Muslim, said the GOP official.

Obama's name makes some people think he is a Muslim, said Walter A. Johnson, director of information services for the Lexington Theological Seminary.

"I had a friend who said Obama is a Muslim because of his name," Johnson said. "I said McCain has an Irish name, but I think he's an American."

Republican Larry Forgy, who narrowly lost to Democrat Paul Patton in Kentucky's 1995 race for governor, said Obama's heritage is why some people think he is a Muslim.

"I know he's not a practicing Muslim but, to me, his preacher, Jeremiah Wright, sounds more like Malcolm X than Billy Graham."

Wright is the former pastor and now pastor emeritus of the Trinity United Church of Christ, a megachurch in Chicago with about 10,000 members.

His manner of preaching has been scrutinized in connection with Obama's campaign. Obama first denounced some of Wright's statements and then resigned his membership in the church last May.

Martin Cothran, senior policy advisor for The Family Foundation of Kentucky, a conservative activist group based in Lexington, said he is "surprised that so many people don't know Obama is not a Muslim."

"I think it's simply because his name sounds Islamic," he said.

Laila Al-Qatami, communications director for the American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee in Washington, D.C., said it is "disheartening" that any American still thinks Obama is a Muslim or Arab.

"Too many people associate Muslims with terrorists, that is, a proclivity to violence or people who are not patriotic to this country," Al-Qatami said. "Calling Obama a Muslim is an attempt to discredit him."

The Herald-Leader/WKYT Kentucky Poll found little confusion among voters about McCain's faith. More than 80 percent of the respondents in each major political party — Democrats, Republicans and independents — said McCain is a Christian.

A large percentage of whites and blacks — 83 percent of the whites and 77 percent of the blacks — said McCain is a Christian

But for Obama, blacks and whites viewed his religious beliefs very differently. When whites were asked Obama's religion, 58 percent said Christian, 16 percent Muslim, 1 percent Catholic, 13 percent other and 12 percent not sure.

Eighty-two percent of blacks said Obama is a Christian, while only 2 percent of blacks considered him a Muslim.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky
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To: markomalley
"I had a friend who said Obama is a Muslim because of his name," Johnson said. "I said McCain has an Irish name, but I think he's an American

Notice how McCain is not a hyphenated American. Does that mean it is code for white or mutt?

41 posted on 10/26/2008 8:27:26 AM PDT by weegee (If we're gonna share wealth, those earning > $1 a month are going to have to share with the world.)
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To: Boiling Pots

The white people who made up the Weather Underground ALSO espoused Black Liberation Nationalist rhetoric. Openly. Evne the Black Panthers questioned their support.


42 posted on 10/26/2008 8:30:43 AM PDT by weegee (If we're gonna share wealth, those earning > $1 a month are going to have to share with the world.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Even if he was born in the USA, what nationality was he when his family moved to Indonesia? What nationality of passport did he use to travel to Pakistan?


43 posted on 10/26/2008 8:32:38 AM PDT by weegee (If we're gonna share wealth, those earning > $1 a month are going to have to share with the world.)
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To: markomalley

Obama’s mother was a proud athiest, and Obama attended Muslim schools as a child. He only joined a Christian church when he moved to Chicago to launch his political career, and that’s why he chose a big church with plenty of “networking” opportunies.

How stupid do you have to be to believe Hussein Obama is a Christian?


44 posted on 10/26/2008 8:32:45 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: markomalley; All
Marcia Froelke Coburn of ChicagoMag.com reveals the reason for the Ayers' children's names:
"For two radicals once living underground, Ayers and [Bernardine] Dohrn have raised three accomplished children: Zayd (named for a fallen Black Liberation soldier and colleague), 24, graduated from Brown University and has an M.F.A. degree in writing from Boston University, where he now teaches; Malik (for Malcolm X), 21, is attending the University of California at San Diego; and Chesa, 20, their adopted son, just finished his sophomore year at Yale University."
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/08/obamas-benefact.html
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"This is a guy [Bill Ayers] who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English..."
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YouTube Video:
The O'Reilly Factor confronts Bill Ayers:
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45 posted on 10/26/2008 8:34:05 AM PDT by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: Lancey Howard
How stupid do you have to be to believe Hussein Obama is a Christian?

A little more than to believe he is a Muslim.

47 posted on 10/26/2008 8:42:06 AM PDT by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: markomalley

I just love how the press thinks there is a “correct” answer to this question.

In the first place, there are very real doubts as to whether Reverend Wright’s church deserves to be called “Christian” at all.

In the second place, we KNOW that Obama was a practicing Muslim in his youth, although he consistently lies about that, but we do not KNOW that he has ever left that faith or has ever been baptized as a Christian.

He says so? Well, he is a proven liar, time and again. I’ll believe it if he produces convincing evidence that he was baptized—witnesses, a baptismal certificate.

In the third place, Muslims all over the world love him, he belongs to a Muslim tribe and family, he has enabled (by campaigning for him and by giving him a million-dollars to pay his followers) a radical Communist/Muslim to conduct a campaign of church burning and violence in Kenya and force himself into the government, he has close connections with radical Muslims, Jew-haters, Black Muslims, and others of that kind.

In the fourth place, he clearly thinks of himself as the Messiah. And Louis Farrakhan has declared to his followers recently that Obama IS the Messiah. The video is on YouTube.

What does that mean? Christians have no tradition of such a Messiah—except for the False Messiah, the Anti-Christ. When Christ comes again it will be upon the clouds of glory, and unmistakeable. I think Ombama—like Farrakhan—means something more like the Twelfth Imam. He is the guy Ahmadinejad has been waiting for. He is the Mahdi.


48 posted on 10/26/2008 8:43:16 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: markomalley

If obama’s a Christian, Joan of Arc played second base for the Cleveland Indians!


49 posted on 10/26/2008 8:44:27 AM PDT by J40000
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To: weegee
what nationality was he when his family moved to Indonesia? What nationality of passport did he use to travel to Pakistan?

Or his recent trip to Iraq and Germany.

We don't know any of that, nor if he attended college as a foreigner, who paid for it, who his classmates were nor can we see his thesis.

50 posted on 10/26/2008 8:45:13 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: markomalley
The first description of the poll said folks were asked to pick between Christian, Catholic, other, and not sure.

Then later it says many said he was muslim, so which is it? Was muslim a choice or not?

51 posted on 10/26/2008 8:48:37 AM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: J40000

Yeah, Joan d’ arc never could turn a double play. She never got brought up from A-ball.


52 posted on 10/26/2008 8:50:18 AM PDT by downtownconservative (Intelligence sans reason is vainglorious pulp)
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To: Loud Mime
That is because Black Liberation Theology is closely liked to Islam. The Church welcomes Lois Farrakhan, Nation of Islam, so yeah, it is at the least, anti Christian.
53 posted on 10/26/2008 8:50:29 AM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: Lancey Howard; All
Excerpt from The American Thinker
Article: Obama, Black Liberation Theology, and Karl Marx
May 28, 2008

Just one nugget from the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, "Instruction on Certain Aspects of the ‘Theology of Liberation': "...it would be illusory and dangerous to ignore the intimate bond which radically unites them (liberation theologies), and to accept elements of the marxist analysis without recognizing its connections with the (Marxist) ideology, or to enter into the practice of the class-struggle and of its marxist interpretation while failing to see the kind of totalitarian society to which this process slowly leads."
- (Author: Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, Prefect, now Pope Benedict XVI; written in 1984)

Understanding that black liberation theology is Marxism dressed up to look like Christianity helps explain why there is no conflict between Cone's "Christianity" and Farrakhan's "Nation of Islam." They are two prophets in the same philosophical (Marxist) pod, merely using different religions as backdrops for their black-power aims.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/05/obama_black_liberation_theolog.html

54 posted on 10/26/2008 8:50:58 AM PDT by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: ETL
A little more than to believe he is a Muslim.

Agreed.
That sociopathic, crack-smoking homosexual street-thug couldn't possibly be anything but an athiest.
The world is all about him.

FRegards,
LH

55 posted on 10/26/2008 8:52:09 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: damper99
LOL You folks are awesome! If KY equals ignorant hillbillies, then I will take them over an elitist liberal snob any day.
56 posted on 10/26/2008 8:54:51 AM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: Boiling Pots

0bama’s church does not preach a “traditional” Christian message, but one of Black Nationalism and “Liberation Theology.”

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Which makes him an apostate Christian, and a religious Marxist. His use of religious principles (faith, hope, change) as vital tenents of his political campaign is a takeover of religion by politics.
Obama’s politics are not informed by his religion, rather, his religion is defined by his politics. This is the ultimate expression of the divinity of the state leader. He is, by his own words, the One we have been waiting for, the Messiah.


57 posted on 10/26/2008 8:58:09 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: Lancey Howard

Isn’t “Chameleonism” one of those newer relgions of the far left??


58 posted on 10/26/2008 8:58:14 AM PDT by downtownconservative (Intelligence sans reason is vainglorious pulp)
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To: markomalley

59 posted on 10/26/2008 8:59:08 AM PDT by petercooper (I am a bitter clinger!)
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To: markomalley
Pretty funny poll. I wonder how many self-identified Republicans say "Muslim" as a joke. And too, not that there's no reason to doubt Obama. After all, he mentioned his Muslim faith in a nationally televised interview, and for some reason, 4% of self-identified Democrats think he is a Muslim.
60 posted on 10/26/2008 9:02:48 AM PDT by Cboldt
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