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THE BEGINNING OF THE END
Netforcuba.org ^ | 10/26/2008 | Obie Usategui

Posted on 10/26/2008 3:10:32 PM PDT by Corazon

.....The real truth, dear friends, is that a great majority of Americans want communism, even though, their wishes may border the sublime. Case it has not yet become self-evident, Americans are on the verge of electing the first communist to the Presidency of this country.

Thought it would never happen, not in the U.S. didn't you? So did I and so did many millions who never thought to live and see the day when a man like Barack Obama would run for the highest office in the world, let alone win the election. Yet, the fact remains, however, that it is happening and it is real...........

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THE BEGINNING OF THE END

By: Obie Usategui

My Dear Friends:

As you may have noticed, I have stayed completely away from my political write-ups and dissertations about Barack Obama and his presidential campaign, for which I am certain many of you are grateful. Throughout my silence, I continued receiving hundreds of e-mails from my diehard conservative friends. I couldn't help but to realize that most all of them, if not all, had just about one thing in common: each and every e-mail seemed to repeat itself with an emotional message of awareness in the potential dangers that lie ahead, should this man Barack Obama become the next President of the United States – a highly probable event if judged by the latest polls.

In the e-mails, I have read just about everything about this man and his character - from his overt Marxist agenda to his dubious associations and lies, and everything in between, I have read it all, and so have you probably. I became a part of it all, as I, like the rest of you, could not resist the urge to share with the rest of world the "warning messages" on the impending threats that this man poses to the United States and to the world.

Our e-mails were, regretfully, circumscribed to just but a few in our mailing lists but the urge was such, that spreading the word amongst even that few was equally accommodating for the exorcism. Our intent, regardless of the size of our audience, was noble and a sacred obligation for those of us who still behold democracy and capitalism as the only way of life. I praise those of you that have still not given up. I did, thus the silence. Before you pass judgment, however, or burn me at the stake for my withdrawal witchcraft, just listen me out, as I have to assume that, in the end, I may just persuade you to sanctify me, once you hear what I have to say.

As my first act of constriction, I ask you: Would it not be reasonable to assume that after one year of intense educational propaganda the nation and the American people would be completely and totally aware of who is Barack Obama? Over and over again, some more, some less, the entire nation has, by now, been exposed to the man, to his obscure relationships with the Jeremiah Wrights, the Bill Ayers, the Reskos, A.C.O.R.N.; to his wife's professed unwillingness in feeling proud of America; to his willingness for unconditional meetings with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and the Castro brothers; to his Muslim upbringing and his admitted Marxist preferences in his college years; to his unwillingness to fund and support our troops in Iraq; to whom he really is and what he really stands for. Yet, let's face it. The man is still ahead in the polls, and were the elections held today, he'd be almost assured to be elected the next President of the United States . Ask yourself the question: Why? Why do a majority of the American people seemingly want to overlook and neglect the threats?

My dear friends lets not kid each other anymore. Let's deal with reality as sad as this may be. Americans know exactly who Barack Obama is and a majority of Americans want Barack Obama to be their next President. As simple as that. To most of us, conservative pundits, our commitment to principle would have us searching for answers that would make some sense of what seems incomprehensible.

In our search for answers, some of us will choose to never trust the polls, some may fall prey to the whimsical woes of the Bush administration and the recent economic debacle, some to our foreign oil dependency and raising gas prices, and some to race. Beyond whatever personal satisfaction and justification we may find for a seemingly irrational desire to elect this man as President, therein lies a greater truth – a truth much greater than the issues; a truth much greater than a man and his associations; a truth much greater than all our e-mails and messages; a disguised truth that disposes our messages our e-mails and the political issues as inconsequential aberrations; a truth where the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. The real truth, dear friends is that the United States of America is about to become a Communist nation.. Yes, you heard me right: a communist nation.

The real truth, dear friends, is that a great majority of Americans want communism, even though, their wishes may border the sublime. Case it has not yet become self-evident, Americans are on the verge of electing the first communist to the Presidency of this country.

Thought it would never happen, not in the U.S. didn't you? So did I and so did many millions who never thought to live and see the day when a man like Barack Obama would run for the highest office in the world, let alone win the election. Yet, the fact remains, however, that it is happening and it is real.

Case you doubt me, just take a look around you, Obama is not alone. Don't let yourself be fooled with such a romantic thought of poetic individualism. The United States is plagued with communists. Hear me well, I said communists, not liberals, communists. It is everywhere we turn. It is in the media. It is Hollywood . It is in the nation's most prestigious schools of higher education. It is in the youth of the nation. It is in a presumed Civil Right movement for equality of the races. It is in the government and in the courts of the country. It is in the failed and the envious. It is well organized, powerful and long-time in the makings. With each new day, communism rears its ugly head just about everywhere we look around.

For years now, they, the communists have managed to masquerade and camouflage a covert agenda with a disguising lexicon that took a life of its own – a lexicon where the words "liberal", and "to the left" have been swiftly introduced to the American public as their preferred spinning substitutes for communism. I say to them, enough is enough. I am utterly repulsed with the pontification of these terms and their cover-up. I am sick and tired on the way "Marxism" is stealthily introduced into the glossary of deceitfulness. I refuse to give into the spin and the disguise anymore. I refuse to continue standing by and not calling a spade a spade. I refuse to continue letting white guilt-ridden Americans, continue paying the current price for a history of racism - a price that today allows Black born Americans to disenfranchise themselves from their homeland and brand themselves as part of another nation. The "African-American" label is fully burdened with hate and a quiet reluctance of heritage. Simply put, a subversive hate of Whites in the U.S. , as professed by Obama's own mentor Jeremiah Wright. All the while, as we the country and White America praise the latter's favorite son: Barack Obama.

Communism, we all know it, thrives on racism and class warfare. Ironically, it took a commoner in the person of "Joe the Plumber", for Barack Obama to publicly admit to his "redistribution of wealth" platform agenda. Again, the latest edition to the deception glossary. It is, without a doubt, communism at its best. As I listen to Obama's rhetorical campaign speeches, I can help but think on how this twenty first century communist has been able to accommodate the times, while he swiftly substitutes, Karl Marx's proletariat and bourgeoisie for "Middle Class Blue Collar America" and "The Oil Companies".

Let's face it friends, the United States of America , is without a doubt, on the verge of becoming a communist nation. At the expense of being demonized by my opponents as a delusional extremist, I've even thought of the possibility of a great conspiracy behind the man Barack Obama. My fear, as far out radical as it may appear, it's not, mind you, without merits worthy, at worst, of plausible consideration. Think of our world today. Think of the world's overt hatred for the United States , capitalism and all it stands for. Think of 9-11. Think of radical Muslims and terrorism. We live in a chaotic world environment of hatefulness where the United States and its allies have been the targets for destruction as even children are converted into human bombs in the pursue of their evil objective.

A man like Barack Obama with a professed conviction for military weakness would indeed be the ideal candidate for U.S. haters throughout the world – would it not? In my presumptuous conspiracy theory, I think of a man that a mere three years back, had no political history, barring an effort to…yes, you guess it, socialize his own State of Illinois , and able to shatter the political aspirations of a highly polished politician such as was Hillary Clinton. I think of a man that has set new records of campaign funding of untraceable money. I think of a Messianic rise from the tombs of the unknown to a highly coveted candidacy for the highest office in the land and in the world. I think of a nation that discards and refuses to acknowledge the demons of communism written all over this man's politics. I have even thought, might not the recent economic debacle, have been a well crafted and timely event planned by the conspiracy? One has to wonder. One really has to wonder if the Barack Obama phenomenon should not yet be attributed but to a greater power – a greater force escaping the minds of the populous, as otherwise, one can only assume the nation's continued denial of Obama's evilness as a practical impossibility.

Many will argue, the mere thought of a Communist United States, could never see the light in, of all nations, this nation. The arguments will range from the limited power of the Executive branch to the oversight and balance of power by the other government branches. I say to them, just look at Congress today. Take a hard and close look at Congress today and tell me what you think. Take Nancy Pelosi and tell me what you think. Think of Barack Obama as your next President with a communist Congress and tell me if you still think it cannot happen in the U.S.

Karl Marx once said: "of all societies in the world, communism would best be suited for a country with a developed economy, and that country is the U.S. " Bill Ayers and many others like him have taken these Marxist postulates and embraced them as ideals worth destroying this country and all it stands for. Doing so unrepentantly. Barack Obama comes to us as the "chosen one" in making this dream a reality. Class warfare has already begun in our nation. To the less fortunate, communism and redistribution of wealth stands tall as an expectation for change and a better life. Their support of the conspiracy is built on the naivety of their hopes. Sometimes on the resentment of their individual failures in a society and a system where Darwin 's infamous "survival of the fittest" philosophy, truly determines their share of the commonwealth. To the more educated, even the rich, the conspiracy comes in the form of "textbook socialism" – in the form of a perverse and misguided philanthropy of utopist provenance, characterized by "giving to others" provided it doesn't infringe on their own wealth and life-styles. For that matter, I have yet to see the first member of this clan packing up and leaving the motherland seeking refuge in their coveted communist countries throughout the world.

These, my dear friends are the reasons for my silence. Yes, I have given up in spreading the word and the messages anymore than what I have in the past few months. The time has come when I am really hoping for Obama's America to have a taste of their own medicine. Let them live under communism. I truly believe Barack Obama will win this election. My last hopes for the contrary went out the window as I watched my candidate John McCain in a public rally debating with an outspoken surrogate in the audience about Obama's righteousness and being a good American citizen. McCain's campaign of integrity and dignity are a reflection of the man himself – yet one which may very well in the end deliver the country to the communists in a silver platter. If it happens, I shall forever resent this man, regardless of his honorability.

In my heart of hearts, I truly believe Barack Obama will win this election. I truly believe Barack Obama will be the next President of the United States of America . I see Barack Obama's election as the final realization of a long-planned conspiracy, the likes of which the world has never seen before. Worst yet, I cannot disenfranchise this man from the prophets and their prophecies, from Nostradamus to Mathew's biblical prediction of the end: "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come." Matthew 24:14. As irrational and outlandish as it may sound, Obama's Messianic aura serves only to reassert my unwillingness to disavow him as the a possible Anti-Christ and Armageddon, all in one. Ready, willing and able to fulfill the prophecies. As I hear the drums of war beating to the threats of nuclear destruction with a Barack Obama as President of the United States , I hasten to say, I see not a "new beginning" but the "beginning of the end." May God save the United States of America : "…one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all".

Obie Usategui obieu@bellsouth.net

Collaboration: Ana Margarita Martínez anamargaritam@bellsouth.net

URL: http://www.netforcuba.org/english/News-EN/2008/Oct/News10535.htm

1 posted on 10/26/2008 3:10:32 PM PDT by Corazon
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To: Corazon

Obie, you drank the Koolaid. Screw you. You’ll be the first to bend. The rest of us will fight.


2 posted on 10/26/2008 3:13:18 PM PDT by gotribe (obama just sucks)
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To: Corazon

God, I’d hate to share a foxhole with you.


3 posted on 10/26/2008 3:13:42 PM PDT by Jagman
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To: Corazon

Where can I find this guy so I can kick his ass myself!


4 posted on 10/26/2008 3:15:34 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!)
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To: Corazon

Okay..., check this one out after the election and we’ll see how it “plays” then....

Should be interesting... (at least here on Free Republic)...


5 posted on 10/26/2008 3:16:09 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Corazon
total BS....
Never forget....never give up
6 posted on 10/26/2008 3:16:28 PM PDT by Gone_Postal (We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat)
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To: Corazon

I’m sick of conservatives and their lesser brethren Republicans like this whining. The polls are polls, they can be wrong even more so in polarizing elections. We need to fight till the end and get everyone to show up on election day. Get out the vote and we don’t have to worry about an Obama Presidency.


7 posted on 10/26/2008 3:19:08 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a government check!")
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To: Corazon
The real truth, dear friends, is that a great majority of Americans want communism

He's right about that much.

This is the great problem of representative government. What happens when the people themselves want evil? Should the will of the people be supreme even following it results in the destruction of the nation?

8 posted on 10/26/2008 3:20:30 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: gotribe

This writer is certainly a wimp. From the minute BO takes the oath of office, those who resent the theft of our liberty can make his life and that of the Democrats a living hell. We should never let them talk us into “bipartisanship” and “cooperation” after the hateful way they’ve treated Pres. Bush the past 8 years. They could dish it out, now let them take it.


9 posted on 10/26/2008 3:21:49 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: gotribe

The rest of us will fight”.

You got that right.


10 posted on 10/26/2008 3:22:13 PM PDT by lookout88 (Combat search and rescue officer's dad.)
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To: Corazon
Hey Obie..........Obi Wan Bama Zan Says:


11 posted on 10/26/2008 3:23:08 PM PDT by Colonial Warrior (Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction.)
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To: B-Chan
Correction: A majority of Americans want government to take care of them. That's a very seductive proposition. Why settle for the responsibilities of adulthood when you can enjoy an eternal childhood? The Democrats are promising people an escape from all their problems. And why not?

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

12 posted on 10/26/2008 3:24:41 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Corazon

“..a great majority of Americans want communism, even though, their wishes may border the sublime.”

And when things turn to utter sh*t, these same people will complain why God allows so much evil and suffering to happen.


13 posted on 10/26/2008 3:25:24 PM PDT by 353FMG (The Lever we pull in the Voting Booth will be the Lever God will judge us by on Judgment Day.)
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To: Corazon

Me too, I’ll fight by typing brave words on an Internet forum (as long as the new stalinists allow the forum to operate, anyway.)


14 posted on 10/26/2008 3:25:38 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Everytime they open their mouth they shoot themselves in the foot.)
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To: Corazon
This is something that might be appropriate after the election, IF the fight is lost. Until then, we must fight.

As Churchill once said in 1941: "This is the lesson: never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never—in nothing, great or small, large or petty—never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy."

15 posted on 10/26/2008 3:27:56 PM PDT by CASchack
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To: Maelstorm
We need to fight till the end and get everyone to show up on election day.

There is no end.

16 posted on 10/26/2008 3:28:12 PM PDT by nosofar
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To: B-Chan; Corazon
Should the will of the people be supreme even following it results in the destruction of the nation?

Democracy is a tool. Its how we sort out our differences. It doesn't decide who is right, its just a mechanism for sorting out which way we will go while the true battle continues. Democracy just means you have to persuade your neighbor. Its frustrating when your neighbor doesn't listen to reason, but it doesn't absolve you of the requirement to go on persuading him.

In the end, reality always gets a vote. And the struggle between right and wrong never ends. No victory and no defeat is ever final. You never get to take a holiday for very long.

The only difference, in some countries these struggles work themselves out with bloodshed, and in some with ballots and printers ink. Ballots and printer's ink is better, if you have the choice.

But the war of ideas is fought out on three main public battlefields, and we have abdicated all three. Schools and universities, the news media, and the entertainment media. You can't win the war of ideas when you've given your enemy control of every weapon and every battlefield. Fail to solve that problem and we will go down to defeat. Fail to solve that problem and we've brought defeat upon ourselves.

17 posted on 10/26/2008 3:33:56 PM PDT by marron
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To: Corazon; All

So—is the following premise true or false: Communism is dead


18 posted on 10/26/2008 3:36:01 PM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words:"It's too late"))
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To: B-Chan
"This is the great problem of representative government. What happens when the people themselves want evil? Should the will of the people be supreme even following it results in the destruction of the nation?"

I had this exact discussion with my brother in law when i was in Taiwan last week. He is believing that a representative government may not be the best form of government because the electorate just isn't informed enough.

19 posted on 10/26/2008 3:37:09 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Corazon

In reality, most Americans want what is best for them. We call them Independents, but it would be better to identify them as Self Serving. My in laws are democrat voting Catholics. They are anti-abortion, but vote Democrat because one is a government employee and the other is a Teamster.

This is a manifestation of the Me-Generation. People will vote for BO because he promises more free stuff to them than JM.

When BF’s 25% cut in military spending results in an attack on LA or NY, the ME crowd will swerve to the right and embrace our party.

These people are the problem. We need to fix the primary system to exclude them. I think you should only be allowed to vote in a primary if you voted for a candidate of the same party in the previous presidential election.

Once the ideologues have selected their candidates, let the Me-crowd choose.


20 posted on 10/26/2008 3:38:44 PM PDT by wizwor
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To: 353FMG

Look around, things are turning to utter sh!t. This is because of a lethal combination of Government inteference and wreckless greed (and, no, the two things are not mutually exclusive).

The problem is that most Americans are too dumbed down and numb to tell up from down. And perhaps they are too tired to even try. As a result, the easiest thing to do is to blame the evil conservatives (ignoring the greater liberal role in this fiasco) and go with the socialist guy who promises to change things and spread the wealth.

The effect of BHO’s impending election will be to create a defacto one party system. While a GOP may remain, it will be a shadow of its former self and a scapegoat for all the problems of the Republic. The Progressives, with their supermajorities, will enact changes that will make it all-but impossible for their dominance to be legally challenged. And the sheeple will sign and fall in line.

Sorry, but I think we have lost our collective mind as a people. Not all of us, but enough. Unfortunately, the sensible among us have a choice: leave, take the ride, or start a civil war.


22 posted on 10/26/2008 3:40:46 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Corazon

“..The real truth, dear friends, is that a great majority of Americans want communism”

BS BS BS!!! If there’s any fault it’s that a great majority of Americans views have been shaped by the MSM PERIOD.


23 posted on 10/26/2008 3:43:20 PM PDT by diverteach (http://foolishpleasurestudio.com/eyewool/slap_hillary.html)
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To: B-Chan

I don’t believe that most Americans want communisium. The first rule in their playbook is make them think anything they say is true.


24 posted on 10/26/2008 3:44:05 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Maelstorm

Or in Franlin’s words, “We must all hang together, or we shall surely all hang separately.”


25 posted on 10/26/2008 3:45:57 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: kittymyrib

Even Pelosi ain’t so sure about all of this. That’s why she needed all those republicans to vote for the bail out. If it didn’t work, or even made things worse, they would share the blame. And, for some reason I’ll never understand, the republicans went along with her.

As for people wanting socialism, many people do. Mostly lazy people who don’t want to work or resent others who have more than they do. And there are actually people with money who are for this clown yet they don’t think he’ll come after them. Having money does not neccessarily mean they have brains.


26 posted on 10/26/2008 3:46:40 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: P8riot

Franklin said it too.


27 posted on 10/26/2008 3:46:40 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: gotribe

The last man standing wil NOT be a commie !


28 posted on 10/26/2008 3:47:53 PM PDT by lionheart 247365 ((Socialism . . . a catalyst for apathy on the road to communism ))
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To: kittymyrib

I think that, with the right type of introduction to this letter, it could be used as a “scared straight” - wake up call - to the more centrist liberals. Those are the ones who, until this point, don’t think that having nobambi as CIC would affect their personal lifestyles. Once they realize that they’re not immune to his communist agenda, they just might open their eyes to the horror of the changes it will bring. Anyway.. just an idea.


29 posted on 10/26/2008 3:49:49 PM PDT by DDLL (DLS)
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To: Terry Mross

What should be of deep concern is that Obama has been very clear about his platform and intentions. He has really not lied, he is giving people the choice and when they chose him and a democratic congress, the people will be giving them a mandate and that will be a clear mandate for socialism/marxism.


30 posted on 10/26/2008 3:52:39 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: rbg81

When the republican party is gone, and it almost is, who will they have to blame? They’ll try to blame Bush but it won’t work. Carter was still trying to blame Nixon in 1980 but the people didn’t fall for it.

My fear is not the parties. It’s the socialists from both parties.


31 posted on 10/26/2008 3:53:13 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: gotribe
I don't believe this or anything else being peddled by the filthy media. They have been hyping Obama non stop but that doesn't mean the American people like him. I have a feeling this election will make the media look totally ridiculous. Mccain’s margin of victory will be 60% to 40%.
32 posted on 10/26/2008 3:54:32 PM PDT by peeps36 ( Al Gore. Is A Big Fat Lying Hypocrite. He Pollutes The Air By Opening His Big Mouth)
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To: Terry Mross

Ever hear the phrase “educated fools?”


33 posted on 10/26/2008 3:54:54 PM PDT by bethtopaz (Communist Goal #21 for Takeover of US: Gain control of key positions in radio, TV & motion pictures.)
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To: peeps36
Mccain’s margin of victory will be 60% to 40%.

"Denial" is not a river in Egypt, my friend. I would like to know what you are smoking, because it is quite potent.

34 posted on 10/26/2008 4:01:30 PM PDT by Clemenza (PRIVATIZE FANNIE AND FREDDIE! NO MORE BAILOUTS!)
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To: B-Chan
The real truth, dear friends, is that a great majority of Americans want communism

He's right about that much.

No, he's not. The great majority of America is conservative. All that is necessary to engage them is to offer up a Conservative candidate.

35 posted on 10/26/2008 4:02:07 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: 353FMG
And when things turn to utter sh*t, ...

The Argentinians called it the SHTF moment ('94, '95?), you know the words. There were/are some good people there that hunkered down, kept thinking conservatively, creating little black market businesses, made do but kept forging ahead, I hope some of them immigrated here, we could use their help!!

They described roaming gangs of thugs, developed defense techniques for combating them, anticipating them. They (the thugs) were the typical welfare mentality types, like we have here. Once they found out that all that "gimmee" stuff was a pack of lies then they started their predatory ways big time.

It was interesting that there was still access to guns on the black market even in such a controlled environment. They weeded out some thugs too but they also suffered a great deal.

36 posted on 10/26/2008 4:03:01 PM PDT by brushcop (We remember SSG Harrison Brown, PVT Andrew Simmons B CO 2/69 3ID KIA Iraq OIF IV)
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To: Corazon

This is a real nut-cake piece.


37 posted on 10/26/2008 4:04:52 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obama isn't just an empty suit, he's a Suit-Bomb trying to sneak into the White House.)
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To: wizwor

“the ME crowd will swerve to the right and embrace our party”

You assume there will be genuinely free elections in 2010 and 2012.
But getting Barry out of Washington may prove as easy as getting the communists out of Beijing.


38 posted on 10/26/2008 4:05:53 PM PDT by devere
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To: gotribe
I think the guy "hit the nail on the head."

How can you argue with him? How is somebody--Obama--running for POTUS and he has never done anything important?

Some people are looking for a handout. Others are so ignorant they are voting for him because they like to listen to him talk.

How do you define "redistribute the wealth?"

How do you explain that with a 10% approval rating, Americans are about to elect even more of the same to congress?

How do you distinguish our MSM from Pravda?

The guy who wrote this is Cuban...probably thinking "Been there, done this."

39 posted on 10/26/2008 4:06:27 PM PDT by lonestar
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To: Corazon

How’s that Kool-aid taste?


40 posted on 10/26/2008 4:06:36 PM PDT by wargamer6
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To: editor-surveyor

“This is a real nut-cake piece.”

I wish you were right.


41 posted on 10/26/2008 4:06:44 PM PDT by devere
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To: Steve Van Doorn
Your brother is on to something. In the following sentence you expressed two thoughts:
  1. "He is believing that a representative government may not be the best form of government
  2. because the electorate just isn't informed enough. "

I am in total agreement with your brother in that the electorate is not well enough informed.

Re #2: The electorate's ignorance is based partially upon the fact that most young people simply do not acquire enough wisdom or experience by the age of 18 to make a decision in their own best interests, let alone one that would be beneficial to the nation. This used to be solved by restricting the right to vote to citizens who had attained the age of 21.

RE #1: Your brothers statement in the first instance, I believe solving the informed electorate problem would result in a different statement from him.

My concern is that to many will make a foolish decision which will result in a bloody conflict between those loyal to the principles of the constitution with those who seek to enslave them.

Semper Fi
An Old Man

42 posted on 10/26/2008 4:39:15 PM PDT by An Old Man ("The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they suppress." Douglas)
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To: Corazon
Let's deal with reality as sad as this may be. Americans know exactly who Barack Obama is and a majority of Americans want Barack Obama to be their next President. As simple as that.

I can find at least three things wrong with this passage.

43 posted on 10/26/2008 4:41:35 PM PDT by Petronski (Please pray for the success of McCain and Palin. Every day, whenever you pray.)
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To: Corazon
From Rush Limbaugh last Thursday:

"Democracies always fail because once people learn that they can vote themselves money, then that's it." Once they figure that out, it's over. Well, here's an actual quote, and it is from a science fiction writer named Robert Heinlein, and it is from a book called, To Sail Beyond the Sunset: "The America of my time line is a laboratory example of what can happen to democracies, what has eventually happened to all perfect democracies throughout all histories. "A perfect democracy, a 'warm body' democracy in which every adult may vote and all votes count equally, has no internal feedback for self-correction. ... [O]nce a state extends the franchise to every warm body, be he producer or parasite, that day marks the beginning of the end of the state. For when the plebs discover that they can vote themselves bread and circuses without limit and that the productive members of the body politic cannot stop them, they will do so..." They'll vote themselves bread and circuses every time "until the state bleeds to death, or in its weakened condition the state succumbs to an invader [such as] the barbarians enter Rome."

44 posted on 10/26/2008 5:15:40 PM PDT by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: Clemenza
I'm not smoking anything, especially the cheap garbage being peddled by Obama’s pushers in the media.
45 posted on 10/26/2008 5:48:36 PM PDT by peeps36 ( Al Gore. Is A Big Fat Lying Hypocrite. He Pollutes The Air By Opening His Big Mouth)
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To: Corazon
"I see Barack Obama's election as the final realization of a long-planned conspiracy, the likes of which the world has never seen before. Worst yet, I cannot disenfranchise this man from the prophets and their prophecies, from Nostradamus to Mathew's biblical prediction of the end: "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.""

I want to take this opportunity to thank all of the third party voters, the too proud conservative and, of course, the 0bama voters and the DNC for making the above quote possible. If it comes to pass, the blood will be on your hands. You had a chance to stop it, but instead, you chose to make it happen.

Wolverines!

46 posted on 10/26/2008 6:15:30 PM PDT by GBA
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To: An Old Man; Steve Van Doorn

You were saying — “I am in total agreement with your brother in that the electorate is not well enough informed.”

And a well-informed and evil electorate is probably worse...


47 posted on 10/26/2008 6:55:18 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: rbg81

sounds like “judgment time”...


48 posted on 10/26/2008 6:56:26 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: B-Chan
Should the will of the people be supreme even following it results in the destruction of the nation?

In this case, yes.  The people richly deserve a wake up call.  Furthermore, I happen to be a partisan that believes the contract was contigent upon both party agreement.  The question to me is whether we can maintain coherence in a dissolution of the contract, or will we passively go towards rendering it meaningless.

I heard a quote today that for me completely explains the liberal-federal governmental structure:  "When you are dealing with a liar that holds the bigger gun, a written document is completely useless." He was, of course, speaking of our constitution. Fregards

49 posted on 10/26/2008 8:08:34 PM PDT by Harrius Magnus (LIBERALS: We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.)
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To: Corazon
I see Barack Obama's election as the final realization of a long-planned conspiracy, the likes of which the world has never seen before.
50 posted on 03/22/2010 5:53:32 PM PDT by EBH (There is a bell ringing. Is it for Freedom or a Death Knell?)
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