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Police Probe Boy's Gun Show Death
AP ^ | 10/27/2008 | Susan Haigh

Posted on 10/28/2008 6:06:17 AM PDT by politicalmerc

WESTFIELD, Mass. (Oct. 27) - With an instructor watching, an 8-year-old boy at a gun fair aimed an Uzi at a pumpkin and pulled the trigger as his dad reached for a camera. It was his first time shooting a fully automatic machine gun, and the recoil of the weapon was too much for him. He lost control and fatally shot himself in the head.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; guncontrol; guns; tragedy
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To: politicalmerc

This wouldn’t happen if we had gun education. If people understood guns, caliber and the prinicles of gun use. If people understood how guns worked.

We have an uneducated group here.


21 posted on 10/28/2008 6:59:45 AM PDT by Chickensoup ('08 VOTING for the SUPREME COURT that will be BEST for my FAMILY and voting for SARAH PALIN!!!)
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To: Chickensoup

The guy who gave the gun to the 8 year old was a CERTIFIED GUN INSTRUCTOR!!! I just can’t deal with this story...


22 posted on 10/28/2008 7:01:26 AM PDT by politicalmerc (NObama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: politicalmerc

What’s wrong with a two-man chain saw for a warm up ?


23 posted on 10/28/2008 7:04:19 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: politicalmerc

Perhaps he didnt know the ability level of an 8 year old.


24 posted on 10/28/2008 7:08:40 AM PDT by Chickensoup ('08 VOTING for the SUPREME COURT that will be BEST for my FAMILY and voting for SARAH PALIN!!!)
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To: politicalmerc
Where in the world are their brains?

I started with BB guns at the age of five and was allowed to shoot 22 shorts through a single shot, break action rifle at the age of eight.

I was not allowed to fire a higher power rifle until I started hunting with shotguns at the age of 11 (started shooting target and clays with 410’s at the age of eight) and showed that I could handle the weapon and it's recoil safely.

I have done the same with my children and they not only handle any weapon with respect they are very safe and can be trusted with them.

25 posted on 10/28/2008 7:11:11 AM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: politicalmerc

Was there an open bar at this gun show? Because acts of stupidity this incredible are usually accompanied by lots of alcohol.


26 posted on 10/28/2008 7:11:28 AM PDT by around the world
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To: politicalmerc
A single shot .22, ok. A fully auto Uzi! Are you out of what's left of your mind???

I'm sorry, but that's about as poor of judgment as you can get.

Unfortunately, involuntary man slaughter charges are probably on the way for the two adults.

27 posted on 10/28/2008 7:11:38 AM PDT by Freeport
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To: politicalmerc

The lie in the headline is that the accident took place at a “Gun Show.”

Gun shows are indoor events where guns and other goods are bought and sold. There is no shooting, and no loaded guns. This accident took place at a shooting range. This was not a “gun show” tragedy” but a “gun range” tragedy.

The actual event, as noted later in the article, was: Machine Gun Shoot and Firearms Expo at the Westfield Sportsman’s Club, co-sponsored by C.O.P. Firearms & Training.


28 posted on 10/28/2008 7:28:48 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Guns don't kill people, criminals and the governments that create them do.)
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To: politicalmerc
There is an unhealthy tendency in society for modern parents to get their kids doing things at younger and younger ages.

I grew up with guns in the house (loaded and hanging on the wall) and in a family that hunted year around. That said, my father didn't feel it was appropriate for me to fire my first firearm until I was 10. He would have NEVER allowed me to fire an automatic weapon until I was in my teens.

I have an 8 & a 10-year-old, and there is absolutely NO WAY I think that it would be acceptable to allow them or any of their friends to fire an UZI on their own.

To me this is like throwing them behind the controls of a bulldozer to get some cute pictures of them knocking down a tree.

29 posted on 10/28/2008 7:33:02 AM PDT by SampleMan (Community Organizer: What liberals do when they run out of college, before they run out of Marxism.)
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To: SampleMan

Good post. Remember the idiot who committed suicide and murdered his little daughter by having her flying planes at the age of five or six?


30 posted on 10/28/2008 7:51:39 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: SampleMan

Jessica Dubroff. 7 years old.


31 posted on 10/28/2008 7:55:01 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake
I could have done without that stupidity this morning too. Thanks for posting it though.... I have an 8 year old, and he is smart and talented, and will be (if I don't do something stupid to get him killed) a brilliant adult. But we have to realize that smart and talented does not substitute for EXPERIENCED AND MATURE.

When I was 19 I thought I was the smartest man on earth. I'm 41 now and I know what to be afraid of! The boast is literally correct: "I have forgotten (now) more than a 19 year old knows!" That is at least true of the 19 that I was....

No offense to our younger members. Trust me, I can't explain it to you, and there is no way for you to understand. Talk to me in 20 years.

32 posted on 10/28/2008 8:00:29 AM PDT by politicalmerc (NObama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: wideawake
If I was God I would have let the flight instructor and Dad die and the 7 year old would have lived....

We really need to stop involving kids in dangerous activities to make them the "youngest" to cheat death in some way.

33 posted on 10/28/2008 8:07:58 AM PDT by politicalmerc (NObama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: wideawake

No offense, but they died because they took off into unsafe weather conditions to try and meet a media schedule. That kind of crash kills people every year, and it’s stupid and preventable, but it didn’t have anything to do with the girl’s age.


34 posted on 10/28/2008 9:03:06 AM PDT by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: politicalmerc

Did I read somewhere that the kid was already an experienced shooter with calibers much more powerful than 9mm? I could have sworn I saw that in an article somewhere.

I’m withholding judgment on the father and instructor until I hear more. And I certainly won’t say letting children fire automatic weapons is necessarily a good idea. But if the child were able to handle with full-power handguns and rifles safely and competently, I don’t know that it’s a stretch to let him squeeze off a couple bursts from a 9mm Uzi. Another article I read said that other kids were firing it that day, obviously with no ill effects.


35 posted on 10/28/2008 9:12:30 AM PDT by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: DBrow
MSM drivebys are calling this machinegun shoot a gun show, to demonize gun shows.

I'm amazed that either is tolerated in Massachusetts.

36 posted on 10/28/2008 9:17:15 AM PDT by gundog (I'm a bitter gun owner, and I vote.)
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To: Turbopilot
it didn’t have anything to do with the girl’s age

Of course not.

An experienced adult pilot with years of inclement flight-time logged and a 7 year old girl who has been flying for a short time as a gimmick are evenly matched when it comes to flying into a storm.

How silly of me not to realize.

37 posted on 10/28/2008 9:19:22 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: SampleMan
There is an unhealthy tendency in society for modern parents to get their kids doing things at younger and younger ages


38 posted on 10/28/2008 9:29:14 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Secondhand Aztlan Smoke causes drug addiction obesity in global warming cancer immigrant terrorists.)
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To: SampleMan
There is an unhealthy tendency in society for modern parents to get their kids doing things at younger and younger ages


39 posted on 10/28/2008 9:29:42 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Secondhand Aztlan Smoke causes drug addiction obesity in global warming cancer immigrant terrorists.)
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To: politicalmerc

I’ve been shooting since I was five. When my dad was teaching me, he held the gun back with his hands when I held it because he knew there’d be recoil.

The same method I’ve used with my daughters...all without incident for years.

The father had no idea what he was doing and I’m surprised the guy “renting” the UZI didn’t. I won’t hammer the father because I’m sure he has no interest in living either—God intervene he and his family.


40 posted on 10/28/2008 9:37:56 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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